gel said:mr malarky said:
Wow - nice one!
Thanks, though not counting any chickens just yet (haven't told the future mrs malarky yet - that will be an interesting conversation!)
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Thanks, though not counting any chickens just yet (haven't told the future mrs malarky yet - that will be an interesting conversation!)
mr malarky said:
I'm fascinated to see how this game of AV chicken plays out. I'd like to say congratulations, but fear this would be premature!
Out of interest, did you consider other models? If so, what swayed your decision?
strapped for cash said:mr malarky said:
I'm fascinated to see how this game of AV chicken plays out. I'd like to say congratulations, but fear this would be premature!
Out of interest, did you consider other models? If so, what swayed your decision?
Have been holding out for a replacement for the Kuro for a year or two now, primarily to get a larger screen size, but was holding off until I was convinced the replacement would have equal or (preferably) better picture quality. Good 3d performance was less of a consideration, more of a 'nice to have' if anything.
Had been thinking about upgrading last year given the excellent reviews of the various 2012 panasonic models, and had been looking at the prices coming down around Christmas time, but was thankfully deterred by the various threads on here from people having problems.
Was then seriously considering the VT65 after reading the HDTVTest review and your own impressions, but was torn on the screen size question - the 55" would arguably not be a large enough jump in screen size to justify the cost of upgrading, and I don't think the 65" would physically fit in the space available (and even if it did it would be too overbearing I think, given the room size).
At 60" the ZT fell into the 'goldilocks zone' size-wise, and the AVForums review just tipped me over the edge.
mr malarky said:
I had the money and space, I'd have waited and gone ZT myself.
I'm hoping you stay the course and let us all know what you think.
bigboss said:
I considered signing up for the TPS meet, but it's too far to travel. (Arguments will persist and I doubt the meet will settle anything conclusively.)
I'd also now be comparing out of general interest rather than necessity. Hopefully the meet will give you a good sense of what to buy, though I thought you were set on a projector.
gel said:
Thanks gel. 🙂
I live in Walsall, so this is down the road from me. I'm looking forward to this.
mr malarky said:
I'm seriously tempted to go for one, too.
Where are you buying it from, if you don't mind me asking?
bigboss said:
Good point. If they can match the Ashton TV prices, I would be a fool not to buy one. :?
strapped for cash said:BenLaw said:
I simply can't forgive an error of that magnitude, Ben; and blaming your infant son is dastardly indeed!
On an entirely different subject, did you ever get round to watching Berberian?
Tbf I was inferring no 'blame' on Asher's part, he lacks all moral culpability at his age. Although a *lot* of things are his fault
I watched Berberian about a month ago. I think I'd built it up in my mind too much and was ultimately underwhelmed. Toby Jones was excellent, as ever, as was most of the supporting cast. It was very atmospheric and claustrophobic and was a subject matter j found interesting, as I would expect for many 'cinephiles'. I just felt it lacked variety in tone and pace and the atmosphere never really culminated in anything. I expected some sort of psychological revelation (or a 'twist') which I never felt appeared. Having said that, I didn't really get the slightly hallucinatory bit towards the end. If that had any deeper meaning than 'the situation's sending him a bit crazy' then maybe the whole crux of the film was lost on me. Anyway, a four star film, just not the 5 I was kind of expecting.
mr malarky said:
Aha! I said to bigboss (who agreed) that size would be an important criterion in deciding between VT65 and ZT65.
By the way, the AVForums reviews of both the 55VT65 and the 50VT65 have been pretty good also! I'm just hoping that that will continue when the 65VT65 is reviewed.
But congratulations on your forthcoming TV, AVForums said that the ZT65 was the best plasma TV that they had ever seen. 🙂
BenLaw said:Tbf I was inferring no 'blame' on Asher's part, he lacks all moral culpability at his age. Although a *lot* of things are his fault
I watched Berberian about a month ago. I think I'd built it up in my mind too much and was ultimately underwhelmed. Toby Jones was excellent, as ever, as was most of the supporting cast. It was very atmospheric and claustrophobic and was a subject matter j found interesting, as I would expect for many 'cinephiles'. I just felt it lacked variety in tone and pace and the atmosphere never really culminated in anything. I expected some sort of psychological revelation (or a 'twist') which I never felt appeared. Having said that, I didn't really get the slightly hallucinatory bit towards the end. If that had any deeper meaning than 'the situation's sending him a bit crazy' then maybe the whole crux of the film was lost on me. Anyway, a four star film, just not the 5 I was kind of expecting.
I really liked Berberian, though I've only watched it once and that was about a month ago. I was convinced I'd figured it all out as I fell asleep, but I concluded that another viewing was needed to verify (or challenge) my initial interpretation. I've also forgotten half of the thoughts buzzing round my head late that night.
From what I recall, I thought it was film about proximity to work and the obsessive nature of creative process, while also a meditation on media effects. As the film progresses, the boundaries between Gilderoy's world and the film he's working on increasingly overlap. (While initially discrete, "real" and fantasy worlds start to bleed into one-another and become increasingly confused. Tthe boundary between "reality" and fantasy worlds dissolves in the final shot, when Gilderoy disappears into the cinema screen.)
Gilderoy also starts the film a bashful, sensitive man, disturbed by the film's subject matter and violent content. Yet as the narrative continues he becomes desensitised, emotionally blunted, and ultimately violent, re-enacting the material he's been repeatedly viewing.
As I say, I need to watch it again with that interpretive framework in mind, in an effort to pick up on further cues and details. My interpretation might change entirely...
Glad you liked it anyway, even if you were a little underwhelmed. I thought it was certainly one of the best films I've seen recently; and I'm glad less conventional, abstract cinema is still produced in relatively mainstream contexts.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with Panasonic TVs. I probably should have started another thread.
Pindi said:mr malarky said:
Have ordered from Mark's Electricals in Leicester, £3,499 with free delivery and 5 year warrantee.
Not used them before though so fingers crossed they're ok (they get very good reviews on 'TrustPilot'), but will let everyone how it goes and whether any issues arise.
Most importantly, I broke the news to the mrs last night and, on balance, I'd say she took it rather well!
So that's the primary hurdle overcome, provided Marks don't let me down there should be a shiny new ZT here in a few weeks.
Happy days!
For those interested, the Panasonic store (north) have now dropped their price for the ZT65. Their Google link still advertises it for £3,799, but if you go into the actual site it's listed for £3,499, so they've obviously already decided to price match.
Ignore last post, the Panasonic north site still lists the price as £3,799 (it was early and I hadn't had my first cup of coffee yet!)
So the word is Panasonic will continue to produce plasmas for the next few years, but the screen itself will not get any better, just the features each year. No rush to buy one then. 8). Should be able to pick one up very cheap. 🙂
gel said:
Gel,
All very true and eminently sensible, but how does any if that scratch my "I want one now" itch??? 🙂
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michael hoy said:
I know, I just meant Panasonic are going to continue to produce plasmas in general, whether there will be another one in that range we will have to wait and see, but if there is it would not surprise me. It will just have extra features though not a better quality screen.
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