Two full UK reviews of the Panasonic TX-P65VT65B plasma

[Son_of_SJ]

Fame at last, Mr Malarky - I've just mentioned you by name on the ZT65 thread!

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Panasonic 65VT65 in John Lewis on Friday 21st June 2013.

Hmm, my hand must be steadier than I thought. Even on an ancient (2006) 1.3 Megapixel mobile phone, and in dodgy John Lewis fluorescent lighting, this 65VT65 still looks half decent. I wish I had waited 10 more seconds for the answer to Mary, Queen of Scots's second husband to appear (Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley), wonder how many members of the Pointless audience knew that, certainly I didn't!

By the way, does anyone know how to make this image (from photobucket) appear bigger when is is pasted into this forum? I'd like it to occupy the full width of the text.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Panasonic 65VT65 in John Lewis on Friday 21st June 2013.

Hmm, my hand must be steadier than I thought. Even on an ancient (2006) 1.3 Megapixel mobile phone, and in dodgy John Lewis fluorescent lighting, this 65VT65 still looks half decent. I wish I had waited 10 more seconds for the answer to Mary, Queen of Scots's second husband to appear (Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley), wonder how many members of the Pointless audience knew that, certainly I didn't!

By the way, does anyone know how to make this image (from photobucket) appear bigger when is is pasted into this forum? I'd like it to occupy the full width of the text.

Nice picture - cheers! Last time I uploaded a picture I had to copy and paste it from Flickr.com, so in there I would have clicked on the image and made it bigger.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Like 500 or 600 is quite big, sometimes you can do it on here too.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

The 65VT65 is £3000 here:

http://www.ashtontv.co.uk/shop/products/panasonictxp65vt65ba.htm

 

[bigboss]

By the way, does anyone know how to make this image (from photobucket) appear bigger when is is pasted into this forum? I'd like it to occupy the full width of the text.

You can't. This site auto resizes the images.

 

[Son_of_SJ]

Damn. Thanks anyway.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I will let you know how good the 65" is SonofSJ in a few weeks once I have had a chance to play with it - its coming today!

I will be calibrating it after a few hours then once every couple of weeks until she settles down and I can squeeza tghe max performance out of it.

I think they say in that the extra screen size / lower cost is better than the slightly better picture, but thats personal obviously - depends if you want the absolute best or not.

I find though in that review the settings he has used to cal it are odd - he is running a high contrast of 70, but then reducing green cut off to -10.

Now my undertsanding is the green is luminance i.e. brightness i.e. contrast - so he is boosting then reducing? Makes no sense to me to do it that way unless he wanted a certain ftl light output?

How about some more images sometime mate? What about Titanic? Cheers.

 

[ellisdj]

Waiting on new cables - I have sold my Graham Slee Cusat and have ordered the Latus - waiting of them to be manufactured.

Then will calibrate again both 2.2 and 2.4 gamma then will take a few more snaps.

Should be looking good then, sounding even better

 

[Son_of_SJ]

I came across this 27th June 2013 review of the Panasonic 65VT65 on the HDTVtest site http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp65vt65b-201306273079.htm. David McKenzie. He does mention a few slight imperfections, but overall the set is still rated at Reference Level.

 

[ellisdj]

some very interesting reading in the review regards to settings and setting up - also in regard to calibrating. I like learning somethign new every day, learnt a fair few things in that review there

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Yep, that review is not bad! I like their comments about image retention, I now avoid the news channels too.

 

[ellisdj]

It's the comments on chroma processing that is really interesting - looking forward to testing what he says.

i think HD TV test are best tv reviews by far. He always says things others don't even think of .... Guy knows his stuff

 

[ellisdj]

Some more Calibrated 2.2 Gamma picture of my 65VT65 for Gel.

These are looking really buff if I do say so myself - seriously good image on this TV now

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/9959/gwzt.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/9692/6fif.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img153/122/j7qm.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/2092/5eft.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2523/y0c5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/2562/k6t3.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5432/06tm.jpg

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Some more Calibrated 2.2 Gamma picture of my 65VT65 for Gel.

These are looking really buff if I do say so myself - seriously good image on this TV now

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/9959/gwzt.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/9692/6fif.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img153/122/j7qm.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/2092/5eft.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2523/y0c5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/2562/k6t3.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5432/06tm.jpg

Ah cheers! :cheers: Great images again, I had a demo of the 55VT65 today and can't stop thinking about it!

 

[ellisdj]

Get a dem of the 65" as well if you can mate - its really good being that big, its a fair bit more money but should hold back the upgrade urge longer I am hopng at least

I forgot to add this pic last time

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/2649/2j65.jpg

 

[mr malarky]

Some more Calibrated 2.2 Gamma picture of my 65VT65 for Gel.

These are looking really buff if I do say so myself - seriously good image on this TV now

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/9959/gwzt.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img585/9692/6fif.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img153/122/j7qm.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/2092/5eft.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/2523/y0c5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img29/2562/k6t3.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5432/06tm.jpg

Those are a stonking set of pictures ellis, really good image quality. Nice work sir!

The first one of gandelf is particularly good - fantastic colours and light/shade in the background.

Cant wait to get mine done now, 4 weeks to go.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Get a dem of the 65" as well if you can mate - its really good being that big, its a fair bit more money but should hold back the upgrade urge longer I am hopng at least

I forgot to add this pic last time

http://imageshack.us/a/img853/2649/2j65.jpg

I like that photo the best - cheers! :cheers: How about Titanic?

 

[ellisdj]

Hi Gel

I went to do Titanic for you but in the disc I have its 3D only - I considered converting to 2D but wasnt sure if that would look truely representative and by then I had pressed eject lol. I will try it for you though mate

So I thought I would try The Hobbit.

2 things to point out - I only skipped through and watched real short clips but I noticed 2 improvements over my LX5090.

When I watched the film on my 5090 I didnt think the picture was that great - I was using the Pioneer BDP LX55 Blu Ray. I tested after with the Marantz and thought the picture was better.

Now looking at the film is actually a fantastic picture - the level of detail to the image is crazy, in some of the scenes I was really shocked by how good the image quality was looking - to me thats 1 for the 65VT and 1 for the Marantz UD7007.

The second thing to point out was the movement - I can see now how the film has been shot using a higher frame rate camera as the micro motion best way to describe it of the atcors like Bilbo pottering around was extraordinary.

I did not see that on the Pioneer / BDP LX55 or the UD7007 and the Pioneer - so thats a big one up for the VT65.

However I really did find the motion far superior on the UD7007 on my Pioneer prior to get the VT - bear that in mind Gel as you are considering buying. I think you will be better served with last years Marantz or maybe Denon over the Pioneer based on my experiences if you want a cheaper player, and I was a big fan if Pioneer BDP's - owned 3 of them until recently mate

I really want this film in 3D now as that would be an excellent watch by the looks of it

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Hi Gel

I went to do Titanic for you but in the disc I have its 3D only - I considered converting to 2D but wasnt sure if that would look truely representative and by then I had pressed eject lol. I will try it for you though mate

So I thought I would try The Hobbit.

2 things to point out - I only skipped through and watched real short clips but I noticed 2 improvements over my LX5090.

When I watched the film on my 5090 I didnt think the picture was that great - I was using the Pioneer BDP LX55 Blu Ray. I tested after with the Marantz and thought the picture was better.

Now looking at the film is actually a fantastic picture - the level of detail to the image is crazy, in some of the scenes I was really shocked by how good the image quality was looking - to me thats 1 for the 65VT and 1 for the Marantz UD7007.

The second thing to point out was the movement - I can see now how the film has been shot using a higher frame rate camera as the micro motion best way to describe it of the atcors like Bilbo pottering around was extraordinary.

I did not see that on the Pioneer / BDP LX55 or the UD7007 and the Pioneer - so thats a big one up for the VT65.

However I really did find the motion far superior on the UD7007 on my Pioneer prior to get the VT - bear that in mind Gel as you are considering buying. I think you will be better served with last years Marantz or maybe Denon over the Pioneer based on my experiences if you want a cheaper player, and I was a big fan if Pioneer BDP's - owned 3 of them until recently mate

I really want this film in 3D now as that would be an excellent watch by the looks of it

Ah cool - appreciate it. Because I thought all 3D Blu-rays play 2D too? Yep, yesterday I had a demo of the 55 Pioneer and loved it to be honest. I like the way it shows a picture and for £250 is a bargain for me! I appreciate the Marantz is different and would probably be my first choice, but I just loved the picture so much yesterday.

 

[ellisdj]

Morning Guys

As Promised some more photos - these are at 2.4 Gamma which I calibrated to last night on Pro 2 mode.

Now without a doubt this is the best image quality I have ever seen and I doubt it gets any better than this for 1920 x 1080 at present. Again my calibration is not 100% perfect - I spent ages tweaking and when somthing clicks in, somehting else gives - I think that is the nature of the displays - they are not able to track everything perfectly, but I think its so close its non visible anyway.

These are some crackers that I think blow yesterdays out of thw water, which is saying something.

2.4 gamma is only achiveable / anygood with a good calibration, but once you have it done the image is so rich and lush its obvious this is how its supposed to be - I am very happy - new cables comign today so can start watching some films

Avengers -,used this to warm the metre up so have to test after

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/9219/p5d5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/8544/jzyw.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/5217/2or9.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/9306/za8q.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9652/7jga.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/6936/hhdq.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/5724/co9k.jpg

Titanic - Factor in this is a 3D blu I have told the tv to display in 2D

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1679/qpvz.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3383/g2zo.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/6830/zyj4.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/3383/3dxg.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img39/9259/hne.JPG

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1746/uzu6.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6098/hm36.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/7616/ylpb.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/1176/g2j5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/261/5p1a.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/7148/cvar.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/8990/x0ns.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6519/uzz0.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/3605/ywuc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4124/s8vf.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/7041/2vxx.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3417/6a59.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img37/9597/dlkl.jpg

Just to point out for all the photos I have taken and posted I dont spend hours doing it, I literally flick thorugh pause until it looks ok then take the picture

This tv is looking real good now

 

[bigboss]

Hi Gel

I went to do Titanic for you but in the disc I have its 3D only - I considered converting to 2D but wasnt sure if that would look truely representative and by then I had pressed eject lol. I will try it for you though mate

So I thought I would try The Hobbit.

2 things to point out - I only skipped through and watched real short clips but I noticed 2 improvements over my LX5090.

When I watched the film on my 5090 I didnt think the picture was that great - I was using the Pioneer BDP LX55 Blu Ray. I tested after with the Marantz and thought the picture was better.

Now looking at the film is actually a fantastic picture - the level of detail to the image is crazy, in some of the scenes I was really shocked by how good the image quality was looking - to me thats 1 for the 65VT and 1 for the Marantz UD7007.

The second thing to point out was the movement - I can see now how the film has been shot using a higher frame rate camera as the micro motion best way to describe it of the atcors like Bilbo pottering around was extraordinary.

I did not see that on the Pioneer / BDP LX55 or the UD7007 and the Pioneer - so thats a big one up for the VT65.

However I really did find the motion far superior on the UD7007 on my Pioneer prior to get the VT - bear that in mind Gel as you are considering buying. I think you will be better served with last years Marantz or maybe Denon over the Pioneer based on my experiences if you want a cheaper player, and I was a big fan if Pioneer BDP's - owned 3 of them until recently mate

I really want this film in 3D now as that would be an excellent watch by the looks of it

I am confused now. Wasn't the frame rate downgraded to 24 fps for blu ray? Blu ray is still 1080p/24 & not 1080p/48.

 

[ellisdj]

Hi Gel

I went to do Titanic for you but in the disc I have its 3D only - I considered converting to 2D but wasnt sure if that would look truely representative and by then I had pressed eject lol. I will try it for you though mate

So I thought I would try The Hobbit.

2 things to point out - I only skipped through and watched real short clips but I noticed 2 improvements over my LX5090.

When I watched the film on my 5090 I didnt think the picture was that great - I was using the Pioneer BDP LX55 Blu Ray. I tested after with the Marantz and thought the picture was better.

Now looking at the film is actually a fantastic picture - the level of detail to the image is crazy, in some of the scenes I was really shocked by how good the image quality was looking - to me thats 1 for the 65VT and 1 for the Marantz UD7007.

The second thing to point out was the movement - I can see now how the film has been shot using a higher frame rate camera as the micro motion best way to describe it of the atcors like Bilbo pottering around was extraordinary.

I did not see that on the Pioneer / BDP LX55 or the UD7007 and the Pioneer - so thats a big one up for the VT65.

However I really did find the motion far superior on the UD7007 on my Pioneer prior to get the VT - bear that in mind Gel as you are considering buying. I think you will be better served with last years Marantz or maybe Denon over the Pioneer based on my experiences if you want a cheaper player, and I was a big fan if Pioneer BDP's - owned 3 of them until recently mate

I really want this film in 3D now as that would be an excellent watch by the looks of it

I am confused now. Wasn't the frame rate downgraded to 24 fps for blu ray? Blu ray is still 1080p/24 & not 1080p/48.

I dont mean its any different I just mean it has improved motion, really smooth so you can see more - like Bilbo pottering around, he moves tiny amounts doddering, I did not see that before - in fact quite the oppostie i though the blu ray was average - its not its very good indeed. I think is definately related to thye frame rate it was shot at and I hope we see more in the future so we cna kiss goodbye to 24fps judder

 

[Deleted member 2457]

Morning Guys

As Promised some more photos - these are at 2.4 Gamma which I calibrated to last night on Pro 2 mode.

Now without a doubt this is the best image quality I have ever seen and I doubt it gets any better than this for 1920 x 1080 at present. Again my calibration is not 100% perfect - I spent ages tweaking and when somthing clicks in, somehting else gives - I think that is the nature of the displays - they are not able to track everything perfectly, but I think its so close its non visible anyway.

These are some crackers that I think blow yesterdays out of thw water, which is saying something.

2.4 gamma is only achiveable / anygood with a good calibration, but once you have it done the image is so rich and lush its obvious this is how its supposed to be - I am very happy - new cables comign today so can start watching some films

Avengers -,used this to warm the metre up so have to test after

http://imageshack.us/a/img209/9219/p5d5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/8544/jzyw.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img203/5217/2or9.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/9306/za8q.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9652/7jga.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/6936/hhdq.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img442/5724/co9k.jpg

Titanic - Factor in this is a 3D blu I have told the tv to display in 2D

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1679/qpvz.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3383/g2zo.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/6830/zyj4.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/3383/3dxg.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img39/9259/hne.JPG

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1746/uzu6.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6098/hm36.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/7616/ylpb.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/1176/g2j5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/261/5p1a.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/7148/cvar.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/8990/x0ns.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6519/uzz0.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/3605/ywuc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4124/s8vf.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/7041/2vxx.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3417/6a59.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img37/9597/dlkl.jpg

Just to point out for all the photos I have taken and posted I dont spend hours doing it, I literally flick thorugh pause until it looks ok then take the picture

This tv is looking real good now

The Titanic ones are awesome! :clap: Thanks very much, the TV is looking great!

 

[BenLaw]

Titanic - Factor in this is a 3D blu I have told the tv to display in 2D

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/1679/qpvz.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/3383/g2zo.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/6830/zyj4.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img690/3383/3dxg.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img39/9259/hne.JPG

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1746/uzu6.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6098/hm36.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img842/7616/ylpb.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img32/1176/g2j5.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/261/5p1a.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img534/7148/cvar.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img706/8990/x0ns.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6519/uzz0.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/3605/ywuc.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4124/s8vf.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img90/7041/2vxx.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/3417/6a59.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img37/9597/dlkl.jpg

Aww, you didn't do any pics of the good bit....