Cables Make No Difference - Thread for the people who think this is true to comment in

[tinkywinkydipsylalapo]

You're funny.

Someone has to be.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

'believe'...????

Vlad, this is a pointless argument. I can sit you down and go through some cables via my set and let you decide for your self.

Its not something that will be resolved over the internet.

A waste of time.

Thompson you believe you can hear the difference between copper and silver cables due to difference in metal resistance at same gauge and length.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/rstiv.html

Silver - 0.0000000159 ohms per meter.

Copper - 0.0000000168 ohms per meter.

Wow... LOL!

 

[TrevC]

Thompson you believe you can hear the difference between copper and silver cables due to difference in metal resistance at same gauge and length.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/rstiv.html

Silver - 0.0000000159 ohms per meter.

Copper - 0.0000000168 ohms per meter.

Wow... LOL!

try it for yourself .... I heard differences on my previous system when switching between copper and silver speaker cables

use Prince's Purple Rain track and post here after you have tried the comparison

I could not hear differences when comparing speaker cables of the same type (copper vs copper and silver vs silver)...

until you have tried this comparison, you are merely 'speculating'

No need to try it, we have science. The fact is any cable with the same series impedance will sound the same regardless of the metal used in its construction.

 

[tinkywinkydipsylalapo]

A bare wire on a speaker will work just fine as long as it doesn't short

No, it won't. You need two to complete the circuit. Or have you further refined your 'any cable will do' mantra? ;-)

 

[TrevC]

A bare wire on a speaker will work just fine as long as it doesn't short

No, it won't. You need two to complete the circuit. Or have you further refined your 'any cable will do' mantra? ;-)

More comedy gold. Of course you need two wires.

 

[Vladimir]

until you have tried this comparison, you are merely 'speculating'

No problem. I'll send you my shipping address and you can send me any cable you want me to test.

 

[Vladimir]

'believe'...????

Vlad, this is a pointless argument. I can sit you down and go through some cables via my set and let you decide for your self.

No problem. I'll send you my shipping address and you can send me any cable you want me to test.

 

[Thompsonuxb]

I couldn't careless if you want to test or not......

Oh wait is this the bit were you guys go totally off topic searching the internet for 'amusing' cartoons and silly pictures and quotes?

Ok....moving on.

'believe'...????

Vlad, this is a pointless argument. I can sit you down and go through some cables via my set and let you decide for your self.

No problem. I'll send you my shipping address and you can send me any cable you want me to test.

 

[dim_span]

until you have tried this comparison, you are merely 'speculating'

No problem. I'll send you my shipping address and you can send me any cable you want me to test.

LOL ... don't get too excited .... I only have cheap cables

 

[Broner]

By the way, Vladimir, have you already watched Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey? I highly recommend it.

*yes, I know, this suggestions comes completely out of the blue.

 

[Vladimir]

It seems like you guys want me to use my own money to prove you right. That is a bit unfair. I've accepted science to save me money spent on foo and if you want to prove to me that you spent your money wisely and it isn't foo, despite what scientific facts show, then it is only fair if you send me something to test at zero cost.

You can use scientific facts to prove to me that your cables are as brilliant as advertised, but you keep repeating 'try it, try it, try it'.

OK. Gimme!

 

[Vladimir]

By the way, Vladimir, have you already watched Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey? I highly recommend it.

*yes, I know, this suggestions comes completely out of the blue.

Added in my to watch list. Seems like something I would enjoy.

 

[dim_span]

It seems like you guys want me to use my own money to prove you right. That is a bit unfair. I've accepted science to save me money spent on foo and if you want to prove to me that you spent your money wisely and it isn't foo, despite what scientific facts show, then it is only fair if you send me something to test at zero cost.

You can use scientific facts to prove to me that your cables are as brilliant as advertised, but you keep repeating 'try it, try it, try it'.

OK. Gimme!

check your current speaker cables and check what they are made of (copper or silver or a combination)...

then go Maplins (at your own leasure) and spend £6 (of your own money) on some speaker cable of the different metal that you currently own ...

then use the Prince CD and listen to Purple Rain .....

I heard differences especially with the s's (some sounded like z's on the silver based wire compared to the copper .... I then decided that copper was best for my system and 'splashed out' and spent £30 on cables

(you may even find that the new cable that you purchase may 'sound' better than what you currently have

but most importantly, you may hear a difference (as I did) .... I also did not 'believe'

 

[Vladimir]

then go Maplins (at your own leasure) and spend £6 (of your own money) on some speaker cable of the different metal that you currently own ...

I have a cable box. I've bought and DIYed cables for 2 decades. I simply do not hear a difference in unsighted tests regardless if they are steel, aluminium, nasty chinese 80% copper, audiophile 99% OFC copper, shielded, unshielded, braided, solid core, litz, whatever.

I recently replaced my Audioquest Type 4 ($80) with 32A rated solid core copper cable from a utility pole ($0). I don't hear a difference even sighted. I simply cannot be bothered about it anymore. But if you send me silver cables I'll make an exception.

then use the Prince CD and listen to Purple Rain .....

ewwww...

 

[dim_span]

then go Maplins (at your own leasure) and spend £6 (of your own money) on some speaker cable of the different metal that you currently own ...

I have a cable box. I've bought and DIYed cables for 2 decades. I simply do not hear a difference in unsighted tests regardless if they are steel, aluminium, nasty chinese 80% copper, audiophile 99% OFC copper, shielded, unshielded, braided, solid core, litz, whatever.

I recently replaced my Audioquest Type 4 ($80) with 32A rated solid core copper cable from a utility pole ($0). I don't hear a difference even sighted. I simply cannot be bothered about it anymore. But if you send me silver cables I'll make an exception.

then use the Prince CD and listen to Purple Rain .....

ewwww...

LOL .... you changed from Audioquest type 4 for cheaper copper cables

no probs in that .... but audioquest type 4 is also copper?

you need to try silver vs copper .... and yes, the Prince track purple rain is what I used to compare. And not only I heard differences, but so did my wife and teenage son.

Like I said, I could not hear differences in using the same material (copper vs copper or silver vs silver)

I bought a box full of different cables from carboot (guy said it was cables taken out of old pubs / restaurants during refurbishment)

Try it .... you may change your mind on cables (try the Prince track Purple Rain like I did)

 

[chebby]

And not only I heard differences, but so did my wife ...

This only counts if she was "walking in from the kitchen" at the time.

 

[tinkywinkydipsylalapo]

Of course you need two wires.

Two??? Snake-oil of the worst kind! First you suggest one is enough, and now you're saying I need two??? Next you'll be telling me I need another two for the other speaker! You're clearly in the pay of the cable-peddlers...

 

[Vladimir]

you need to try silver vs copper ....

Feel free to send me silver cables at this address. Thompson you may as well.

And not only I heard differences, but so did my wife and teenage son.

Where have I heard that one before...

 

[TrevC]

And not only I heard differences, but so did my wife ...

This only counts if she was "walking in from the kitchen" at the time.

The other day, upon a chair

I heard a difference that wasn't there

It wasn't there again today

Oh how I wish science would go away.

*yahoo*

 

[dim_span]

And not only I heard differences, but so did my wife ...

This only counts if she was "walking in from the kitchen" at the time.

The other day, upon a chair

I heard a difference that wasn't there

It wasn't there again today

Oh how I wish science would go away.

*yahoo*

taught science is often misleading .... My father's father was taught in science class that the earth is flat

I listen to music on my laptop that only has 2 speakers spaced 2 feet away from each other .... yet some of the sound/music seems to be coming from the centre of my laptop screen? Science also cannot explain that

 

[Vladimir]

I also need to try Accuphase. I'm very skeptical about them. Anyone interested, you have my shipping address.

 

[Vladimir]

taught science is often misleading .... My father's father was taught in science class that the earth is flat

I listen to music on my laptop that only has 2 speakers spaced 2 feet away from each other .... yet some of the sound/music seems to be coming from the centre of my laptop screen? Science also cannot explain that

Now you simply stopped trying.

 

[tinkywinkydipsylalapo]

I listen to music on my laptop that only has 2 speakers spaced 2 feet away from each other .... yet some of the sound/music seems to be coming from the centre of my laptop screen? Science also cannot explain that

It's stereo. It's an illusion of solidity created by sound coming from two separate sources. TrevC will probably be along to tell us we're all being fooled.

 

[chebby]

taught science is often misleading .... My father's father was taught in science class that the earth is flat

Unless he grew up here, I doubt that was really true. (And if it was true his teacher should have been sacked.)

 

[dim_span]

I listen to music on my laptop that only has 2 speakers spaced 2 feet away from each other .... yet some of the sound/music seems to be coming from the centre of my laptop screen? Science also cannot explain that

It's stereo. It's an illusion of solidity created by sound coming from two separate sources. TrevC will probably be along to tell us we're all being fooled.

I'm glad it's stereo and not science *biggrin*