The Naim has a problem...

[Richard Allen]

A friend of mine is a part time Ghstbuster.

What's a ghstbuster???

 

[chebby]

Looking on the Naim forum it seems to be 5 years in the UK if you register.

Well it's a good job you checked otherwise I might not have remembered that I registered my entire Naim system for the 5 year extended warranty.

Pity its not transferable.

That's not a 100 percent hard and fast rule if the buyer and seller both contact Naim.

In my buyer's case (of my Nait 5i amp) he got his local Naim dealer involved to inspect it and test it. Because his dealer was also an Audio-T branch they were able to check with my branch (and the details I emailed them) and agreed to 'inherit' the remaining 3 years of Naim warranty and the remaining one year of Audio-T warranty. It was easier because they were both branches of the same chain and because the seller (me) was able to provide verifiable details. (And it helped that all packaging / remote / instructions / mains lead / Naim interconnect / copy of original invoice etc. were present and correct.)

 

[richardw42]

A friend of mine is a part time Ghstbuster.

What's a ghstbuster???

thats what I call it

I'm not sure what its really called. Some kind of spirit cleansing. She doesn't tell me much about it, as I probably glaze ver. Bit like this forum actually.

 

[CnoEvil]

There is a digital source, where the recalcitrant CD drawer is absent; that doesn't have any moving parts or have the problems associated with reading the info in real time from a spinning disc....and is Qute 2.

Just saying. :shifty:

FWIW. My dealer says the new Rega amp is a giant killer.

 

[plastic penguin]

Well it's back at the dealers. They'll give it a thorough testing before deciding whether to return it to Salisbury or not. There's always a reason....

Anyway didn't have much time to listen to the Elicit-R, due to the fact that all the parking bays were taken. Had to park on a single yellow, which gives you 20 mins grace.

However, the Elicit was connected to PMC 23s and it sounded pretty darn good. Had beautiful clarity and detail. The bass sounded solid with good definition but, as mentioned before, had nothing to compare it with. Plus I'm not that familiar with the 23s either, please forgive me for not giving it full backing.

In terms of timing and rhythmic snap it certainly sounded worryingly familiar... by that I mean if I was to close my eyes it could quite easily be the Leema pounding out the drum beats. Not saying for one minute that either one is better than the other, just my initial interpretation.

Mrs. P has just come out with a good idea regards the CDP, but I'll let you know if or when it goes back to Naim.

 

[stevebrock]

However, the Elicit was connected to PMC 23s and it sounded pretty darn good.

good init

once over that £1k mark amps start to sound very good - apparentyl! Bet theres not a lot in it tbh PP, when i demoed the Nait XS2 I couldnt tell them apart, the Elicit R won on matching my other gear & phono stage.

My dealer says the new Rega amp is a giant killer.

I love it! it hasn't been off for 2 weeks,

 

[Overdose]

Looking on the Naim forum it seems to be 5 years in the UK if you register.

Well it's a good job you checked otherwise I might not have remembered that I registered my entire Naim system for the 5 year extended warranty.

The Sale of Goods Act covers you for up to six years for free.

 

[chebby]

Mrs. P has just come out with a good idea regards the CDP, but I'll let you know if or when it goes back to Naim.

It doesn't matter to me whether it's contingent on your CD5i going back to Naim (or not), the forum is always in need of reading about a good idea whomever it comes from.

Spill the beans.

She won't mind.

If I recall correctly, she had the idea to get an all-in-one once. That was an excellent idea!

 

[Overdose]

FWIW. My dealer says the new Rega amp is a giant killer.

Did he say which giants were notched on the casework?

 

[plastic penguin]

However, the Elicit was connected to PMC 23s and it sounded pretty darn good.

good init

once over that £1k mark amps start to sound very good - apparentyl! Bet theres not a lot in it tbh PP, when i demoed the Nait XS2 I couldnt tell them apart, the Elicit R won on matching my other gear & phono stage

Also, TBF to me and the brief dem this afternoon, I've not heard the Leema with such high calibre speakers, so my view really holds no real substance. It's just comment based my initial impression.

I've always held the belief that once you cross the £1000 threshold amps do usually jump up another notch or two.

What would say or guess, Steve, you wouldn't be disappointed if you had the Leema - and it would've saved a fair few quid to boot.

 

[BigH]

Looking on the Naim forum it seems to be 5 years in the UK if you register.

Well it's a good job you checked otherwise I might not have remembered that I registered my entire Naim system for the 5 year extended warranty.

The Sale of Goods Act covers you for up to six years for free.

Thats is a rather liberal view of it.

After 6 months you have to prove it is faulty and you can claim upto 6 years from purchase, that does not mean everything will be expected to laste 6 years.

And its the retailer not the manufacturer you have to claim off.

 

[plastic penguin]

Mrs. P has just come out with a good idea regards the CDP, but I'll let you know if or when it goes back to Naim.

It doesn't matter to me whether it's contingent on your CD5i going back to Naim (or not), the forum is always in need of reading about a good idea whomever it comes from.

Spill the beans.

She won't mind.

If I recall correctly, she had the idea to get an all-in-one once. That was an excellent idea!

I'm not being surreptitious, just undecided about CDPs. All I will say at this stage is my CDP over the past year has been played less and less. Once I've got a firm idea settled I'll spill the orange pulses.

 

[BigH]

However, the Elicit was connected to PMC 23s and it sounded pretty darn good.

good init

once over that £1k mark amps start to sound very good - apparentyl! Bet theres not a lot in it tbh PP, when i demoed the Nait XS2 I couldnt tell them apart, the Elicit R won on matching my other gear & phono stage

Also, TBF to me and the brief dem this afternoon, I've not heard the Leema with such high calibre speakers, so my view really holds no real substance. It's just comment based my initial impression.

I've always held the belief that once you cross the £1000 threshold amps do usually jump up another notch or two.

What would say or guess, Steve, you wouldn't be disappointed if you had the Leema - and it would've saved a fair few quid to boot.

Really so the £1,000 ones are so much better than £999 ones, amazing what £1 can do.

 

[chebby]

I'm not being surreptitious, just undecided about CDPs. All I will say at this stage is my CDP over the past year has been played less and less. Once I've got a firm idea settled I'll spill the orange pulses.

You have spat feathers over the idea of 'digiboxes' so many times in the past that I can only assume the 'idea' is to sell the CD player and invest in a better turntable and more LPs.

I really can't see you going for any DAC / streamer / network solution.

Another guess at the 'big idea' is a good quality multi-format player like an Oppo or CA 651BD or somesuch. (But that, again, is too digital for you.)

 

[BigH]

RIP them.

 

[plastic penguin]

I'm not being surreptitious, just undecided about CDPs. All I will say at this stage is my CDP over the past year has been played less and less. Once I've got a firm idea settled I'll spill the orange pulses.

You have spat feathers over the idea of 'digiboxes' so many times in the past that I can only assume the 'idea' is to sell the CD player and invest in a better turntable and more LPs.

I really can't see you going for any DAC / streamer / network solution.

Another guess at the 'big idea' is a good quality multi-format player like an Oppo or CA 651BD or somesuch. (But that, again, is too digital for you.)

No, none of those.

Okay, once I get the Naim back sell it and just buy a darn good TT. The CDs can be played thru the DVD-R - not as good quality as a dedicated CDP but isn't miles away either. But I am feeling lower than a snakes at the mo (only got Leema back a few weeks ago and mow the CDP), hence why I was reluctant to make snap judgement.

 

[stevebrock]

I reckon I would be mighty impressed with the Leema PP - you cant buy them amy more can you?

 

[Overdose]

Looking on the Naim forum it seems to be 5 years in the UK if you register.

Well it's a good job you checked otherwise I might not have remembered that I registered my entire Naim system for the 5 year extended warranty.

The Sale of Goods Act covers you for up to six years for free.

Thats is a rather liberal view of it.

After 6 months you have to prove it is faulty and you can claim upto 6 years from purchase, that does not mean everything will be expected to laste 6 years.

And its the retailer not the manufacturer you have to claim off.

I think a CD player not reading tracks and skipping would not be too difficult to prove as a fault, also the CD player cost around a grand and should be fairly expected to last much longer than a much lower priced offering, as it would be deemed to be a premium product.

I got my washing machine repaired for nothing and it was well beyond its '1 year standard guarantee' and it was cheap tat. I simply argued that it was not of sufficient quality, which for anyone with any basic engineering knowledge could see for themselves.

The question is only wether or not a dodgy pickup is deemed fair wear and tear, and after spending the best part of a thousand pounds on a CD player, I'd be arguing not.

 

[chebby]

No, none of those.

Okay, once I get the Naim back sell it and just buy a darn good TT.

Well it was one of them...

... I can only assume the 'idea' is to sell the CD player and invest in a better turntable and more LPs.

 

[plastic penguin]

I reckon I would be mighty impressed with the Leema PP - you cant buy them amy more can you?

Only s/hand sadly. But at around £600 for a £1300 amp is nothing less than a no brainer. Look at the spec sheet the Leema is a match for the Elicit, plus a switchable phono stage. Not sure about the SQ between the two, can't imagine, however, there's a huge difference.

 

[plastic penguin]

No, none of those.

Okay, once I get the Naim back sell it and just buy a darn good TT.

Well it was one of them...

... I can only assume the 'idea' is to sell the CD player and invest in a better turntable and more LPs.

Hands up on that one - a little deflated at the moment. Once Tuesday comes they'll give me the full gen and then I can start thinking seriously and see if the TT option is viable for my needs.

 

[stevebrock]

I reckon I would be mighty impressed with the Leema PP - you cant buy them amy more can you?

Only s/hand sadly. But at around £600 for a £1300 amp is nothing less than a no brainer. Look at the spec sheet the Leema is a match for the Elicit, plus a switchable phono stage. Not sure about the SQ between the two, can't imagine, however, there's a huge difference.

your probably right, but I have the Elicit here now, it looks and sounds the dogs bullocks!

I am over the moon with it - pics soon when I get my room finished and my new rack has arrived.

 

[plastic penguin]

I reckon I would be mighty impressed with the Leema PP - you cant buy them amy more can you?

Only s/hand sadly. But at around £600 for a £1300 amp is nothing less than a no brainer. Look at the spec sheet the Leema is a match for the Elicit, plus a switchable phono stage. Not sure about the SQ between the two, can't imagine, however, there's a huge difference.

your probably right, but I have the Elicit here now, it looks and sounds the dogs bullocks!

I am over the moon with it - pics soon when I get my room finished and my new rack has arrived.

I know - there's as much chance of you changing the Elicit as me changing the Leema. Customer loyalty says an awful lot about the two makes.

 

[mitch65]

I reckon I would be mighty impressed with the Leema PP - you cant buy them amy more can you?

Only s/hand sadly. But at around £600 for a £1300 amp is nothing less than a no brainer. Look at the spec sheet the Leema is a match for the Elicit, plus a switchable phono stage. Not sure about the SQ between the two, can't imagine, however, there's a huge difference.

your probably right, but I have the Elicit here now, it looks and sounds the dogs bullocks!

I am over the moon with it - pics soon when I get my room finished and my new rack has arrived.

Customer loyalty says an awful lot about the two makes.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there PP

 

[plastic penguin]

However, the Elicit was connected to PMC 23s and it sounded pretty darn good.

good init

once over that £1k mark amps start to sound very good - apparentyl! Bet theres not a lot in it tbh PP, when i demoed the Nait XS2 I couldnt tell them apart, the Elicit R won on matching my other gear & phono stage

Also, TBF to me and the brief dem this afternoon, I've not heard the Leema with such high calibre speakers, so my view really holds no real substance. It's just comment based my initial impression.

I've always held the belief that once you cross the £1000 threshold amps do usually jump up another notch or two.

What would say or guess, Steve, you wouldn't be disappointed if you had the Leema - and it would've saved a fair few quid to boot.

Really so the £1,000 ones are so much better than £999 ones, amazing what £1 can do.

Hope that was written with tongue 'n' cheek? How many amps retail at £999? But the ones I've heard Kandy K2 (£750), Creek Evo2 (£750), Naim 5i (£800) are lacking a little compared to the Leema (originally retailed for £1100) and Roksan Caspian M1 (£1100)....