Rega Elicit R - Happy

[paul darwin]

Hi Steve,

I can confirm 100% that Mr Bateman has your amplifier on his bench as we speak, we will report back fully as soon as possible.

Paul Darwin

Rega Research

 

[stevebrock]

Just for the record (no pun) having owned the great Brio R, the Elicit R is a totally different beast! It is a very clean sounding amplifier - transparent and open - think people mistake it for being bright which it is certainly not.

It is a revelaling presentation, which I like so your source need to be a quality one!

The phono stage is very clean to, revealing big differences in presentations in my 10x5 and Nag MP200

 

[stevebrock]

Just for the record (no pun) having owned the great Brio R, the Elicit R is a totally different beast! It is a very clean sounding amplifier - transparent and open - think people mistake it for being bright which it is certainly not.

It is a revelaling presentation, which I like so your source need to be a quality one!

The phono stage is very clean to, revealing big differences in presentations in my 10x5 and Nag MP200

 

[BigH]

Just for the record (no pun) having owned the great Brio R, the Elicit R is a totally different beast! It is a very clean sounding amplifier - transparent and open - think people mistake it for being bright which it is certainly not.

It is a revelaling presentation, which I like so your source need to be a quality one!

The phono stage is very clean to, revealing big differences in presentations in my 10x5 and Nag MP200

Is not the phono stage the same as the Brio R?

 

[plastic penguin]

Just for the record (no pun) having owned the great Brio R, the Elicit R is a totally different beast! It is a very clean sounding amplifier - transparent and open - think people mistake it for being bright which it is certainly not.

It is a revelaling presentation, which I like so your source need to be a quality one!

The phono stage is very clean to, revealing big differences in presentations in my 10x5 and Nag MP200

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents. This was the main reason, as it happens, why I said the Leema would be more suited to your taste than the Sugden.

 

[stevebrock]

Fundamentally yes the same

 

[stevebrock]

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents.

a poster mentioned the the brio r was warmer than the elicit that's all

 

[chebby]

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents. This was the main reason, as it happens, why I said the Leema would be more suited to your taste....

Shameless.

 

[stevebrock]

:rant:

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents. This was the main reason, as it happens, why I said the Leema would be more suited to your taste....

Shameless.

i was sharing my opinion and observations relating to both amps - after all it is a discussion forum PP

 

[Chokobolt]

Why does the title say: "Rega Elicit R - Happy" when you are in fact not happy?

 

[nima]

Why does the title say: "Rega Elicit R - Happy" when you are in fact not happy?

The thread started as a thriller, with the working title "Rega has let me down again!", and has just recently turned into a romantic comedy with happy ending, hence the change of the title. ("Love Actually" was already taken.)

We are all hoping there will be no sequel though.

 

[Chokobolt]

Glad it turned out well.

Care to write a very short resumé of the story? I am not prepared to go through 23 pages of first world problems but I am still a bit curious.

 

[paul darwin]

Hi Steve,

The problem with the initial Elicit R which was running hot and started to sound inferior was down to the QC (quiescent current) being set too high, the Elicit R normally runs at a QC higher than other designs hence it feeling warmer to the touch (bearing in mind that the heatsinking is on the outside of the case then the case will always appear warmer than comparable amplifiers)

This has definitely had an effect on the sound quality and when the QC was adjusted downward and the amplifier was then compared to the reference amplifier then the differences were not at all audible.

Throughout this thread people have refered to Rega and our QC and I stupidly thought they were refering to Quality Control and not Quiescent Current - this was a pathetic attempt at humour and should in no way be seen as us taking your problems lightly.

Paul Darwin

Rega Research

 

[BigH]

Well Steve lets hope you stay happy.

 

[nima]

Glad it turned out well.

Care to write a very short resumé of the story? I am not prepared to go through 23 pages of first world problems but I am still a bit curious.

Well, it's a love story of a guy named Stave and the youngest daughter from the Rega family of many singing sisters - think of The Sound of Music.

One day Steve gets bored with his GF, dumps her and jumps into bed with one of her older sisters. They are very much in love until this new GF gets a fever, he jumps into bed with another sister (twin, triplet or quadruplet or something actually, of this second one), has some fun with her until he discovers she snores. Takes his chances with another sister, but this one has asymmetric boobs or something. The father Rega gives him some dowry just to keep Steve in the family. And so on. In the end, after much sister swapping and other adventures he finds the love of his life and they live happily ever after.

 

[plastic penguin]

Hi Steve,

The problem with the initial Elicit R which was running hot and started to sound inferior was down to the QC (quiescent current) being set too high, the Elicit R normally runs at a QC higher than other designs hence it feeling warmer to the touch (bearing in mind that the heatsinking is on the outside of the case then the case will always appear warmer than comparable amplifiers)

This has definitely had an effect on the sound quality and when the QC was adjusted downward and the amplifier was then compared to the reference amplifier then the differences were not at all audible.

Throughout this thread people have refered to Rega and our QC and I stupidly thought they were refering to Quality Control and not Quiescent Current - this was a pathetic attempt at humour and should in no way be seen as us taking your problems lightly.

Paul Darwin

Rega Research

Paul - why are you making this public? this should be between you and Steve. And, no, contrary to what you might think I like Rega products, just that when I've tried to integrate them with my current set-up it hasn't worked for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[plastic penguin]

:rant:

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents. This was the main reason, as it happens, why I said the Leema would be more suited to your taste....

Shameless.

i was sharing my opinion and observations relating to both amps - after all it is a discussion forum PP

Of course it is. But you've mentioned Rega's virtues so many times I couldn't see the logic in you reiterating again....

 

[plastic penguin]

Not sure why you're reiterating the Rega's talents. This was the main reason, as it happens, why I said the Leema would be more suited to your taste....

Shameless.

Shameful. Go and hear one then you'll know where I'm coming from.

 

[Sospri]

Are you on Leema's payrol PP.............

 

[chebby]

Hi Steve,

The problem with the initial Elicit R which was running hot and started to sound inferior was down to the QC (quiescent current) being set too high, the Elicit R normally runs at a QC higher than other designs hence it feeling warmer to the touch (bearing in mind that the heatsinking is on the outside of the case then the case will always appear warmer than comparable amplifiers)

This has definitely had an effect on the sound quality and when the QC was adjusted downward and the amplifier was then compared to the reference amplifier then the differences were not at all audible.

Throughout this thread people have refered to Rega and our QC and I stupidly thought they were refering to Quality Control and not Quiescent Current - this was a pathetic attempt at humour and should in no way be seen as us taking your problems lightly.

Paul Darwin

Rega Research

Paul - why are you making this public? this should be between you and Steve. And, no, contrary to what you might think I like Rega products, just that when I've tried to integrate them with my current set-up it hasn't worked for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it's interesting. Not just technically, but also as a demonstration of openness and honesty (and lack of 'marketing spin' or BS).

Let's have Terry on here as well to talk a bit about amplifier design. I thoroughly enjoyed reading some of those links earlier (about how Terry Bateman was inspired by a stack of 1940s - 1970s Wireless World magazine articles to try and recreate elements of the sound from favourite old valve amps and early solid-state designs in a modern amp.)

Heck, let's not stop there. Let's get John Dawson back to the forum to talk about the A&R A60 and the modern amps he is still helping to design at Arcam. Let's get 'em all at it. Naim, Linn, Sugden etc. (even b####y Leema PP) and let's hear about the problems too.

 

[plastic penguin]

Are you on Leema's payrol PP.............

Nah, otherwise I could only afford a radiogram.

 

[plastic penguin]

Hi Steve,

The problem with the initial Elicit R which was running hot and started to sound inferior was down to the QC (quiescent current) being set too high, the Elicit R normally runs at a QC higher than other designs hence it feeling warmer to the touch (bearing in mind that the heatsinking is on the outside of the case then the case will always appear warmer than comparable amplifiers)

This has definitely had an effect on the sound quality and when the QC was adjusted downward and the amplifier was then compared to the reference amplifier then the differences were not at all audible.

Throughout this thread people have refered to Rega and our QC and I stupidly thought they were refering to Quality Control and not Quiescent Current - this was a pathetic attempt at humour and should in no way be seen as us taking your problems lightly.

Paul Darwin

Rega Research

Paul - why are you making this public? this should be between you and Steve. And, no, contrary to what you might think I like Rega products, just that when I've tried to integrate them with my current set-up it hasn't worked for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it's interesting. Not just technically, but also as a demonstration of openness and honesty (and lack of 'marketing spin' or BS).

Let's have Terry on here as well to talk a bit about amplifier design. I thoroughly enjoyed reading some of those links earlier (about how Terry Bateman was inspired by a stack of 1940s - 1970s Wireless World magazine articles to try and recreate elements of the sound from favourite old valve amps and early solid-state designs in a modern amp.)

Heck, let's not stop there. Let's get John Dawson back to the forum to talk about the A&R A60 and the modern amps he is still helping to design at Arcam. Let's get 'em all at it. Naim, Linn, Sugden etc. (even b####y Leema PP) and let's hear about the problems too.

Come on, Chebby - the technical side I get and it's fairly interesting observing from thye sidelines. But I don't think anyone has thought Rega as being dishonest. Can fully understand he's come in earlier in the thread, but the above conclusions should be between him and Steve. If Steve decides to convey that info is another matter altogether. That's the joy of forums. Flipping the coin, if Mr. Mallory had come onto this site to make public my headphone socket problem, I wouldn't be too amused.

What have you got against Leema? I would've thought, along with Rega, they're one of the few Briitish companies who actually design and manufactuer their products in the UK.

 

[nima]

if Mr. Mallory had come onto this site to make public my headphone socket problem, I wouldn't be too amused.

I don't know what kind of intimate relations you had with your headphone socket, but I don't get your point really. Steve's troubles obviously were not of such delicate nature, since he was reporting on them in a public forum. It's not like Paul Darwin in is Steve's gynecologist, revealing Steve's personal problems to the world. He's revealing his own/Rega's problems.

Actually I'd like to know what the problem was with the humming one and the one with one channel missing. How was it possible that those things happened and if Rega is doing something to prevent the stuff to happen again.

 

[matt49]

It's not like Paul Darwin in is Steve's gynecologist, revealing Steve's personal problems to the world.

Steve has a gynaecologist? Since when?

 

[plastic penguin]

It's not like Paul Darwin in is Steve's gynecologist, revealing Steve's personal problems to the world.

Steve has a gynaecologist? Since when?

And do we really need to know this? (Reaches for the bucket).