BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Macspur said:BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.
WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.
Mac
The challenge stopped a while ago. There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.relocated said:I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?
The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible. Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe. I think they remain unclaimed.
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altruistic.lemon said:There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.relocated said:I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?
The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible. Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe. I think they remain unclaimed.
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plastic penguin said:altruistic.lemon said:There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.relocated said:I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?
The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible. Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe. I think they remain unclaimed.
:?
No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.
Macspur said:BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.
WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.
Mac
krolikgena said:Macspur said:BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.
WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.
Mac
Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.
Macspur said:krolikgena said:Macspur said:BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.
WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.
Mac
Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.
Sorry, I disagree, Naim is a widely available highly marketed product on a par with Cyrus.
Mac
What lack of sales? Why do you think that?plastic penguin said:altruistic.lemon said:There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.relocated said:I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?
The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible. Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe. I think they remain unclaimed.
:?
No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.
krolikgena said:Macspur said:krolikgena said:Macspur said:BigH said:There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.
Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.
WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.
Mac
Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.
Sorry, I disagree, Naim is a widely available highly marketed product on a par with Cyrus.
Mac
Naim were a niche product before all this digital/streamig thing.. they always stood apart from the rest of the hi-fi world with it's own army of true fans. all this Flat Earth, PraT.. etc. once u mention that u have a naim people always react the same way. they are club by it's own margin. sure, they have to compete with others in order to survive in modern times so they appeal for the masses with tons of more affordable and easy solutions.
I just don't get why it's easier for Harbeth send a samples to 6moons and Stereophile, rather than to WHF or Techradar. All in all this is as British looking and sounding speakers as you can get. i don't believe that they are more popular overseas than in UK.
plastic penguin said:altruistic.lemon said:There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.relocated said:I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?
The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible. Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe. I think they remain unclaimed.
:?
No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.
NameDavid WrenCompanyRadlett AudioAddress(By appointment)BigH said:Not sure about sales in UK but they certainly don't seem very common, I would like to hear them but no dealers seem to stock them in Essex.
BigH said:Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.
BenLaw said:BigH said:Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.
Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).
BigH said:Not sure about sales in UK but they certainly don't seem very common, I would like to hear them but no dealers seem to stock them in Essex.
BigH said:BenLaw said:BigH said:Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.
Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).
Maybe but what cd player Naim or Rega? No Marantz, Musical Fid, Audiolab, Arcam etc.