cables & blocks confusion

[Clare Newsome]

"This
'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously
considered as a means of communication. The device
is inherently of no value to us."
Western Union internal memo, 1876.

 

[timwileman]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]
"This
'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously
considered as a means of communication. The device
is inherently of no value to us."
Western Union internal memo, 1876.

[/quote] fully agree with this one!!

 

[Clare Newsome]

Maybe you'll prefer this:

"I consider [television]
an impossibility--a development which we should
waste little time dreaming about."
Lee de Forest, 1926, inventor of the cathode ray
tube.

 

[timwileman]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]
Maybe you'll prefer this:

"I consider [television]
an impossibility--a development which we should
waste little time dreaming about."
Lee de Forest, 1926, inventor of the cathode ray
tube.

[/quote] nooo telephones are the devils work as they interupt TV watching 🙂

 

[professorhat]

[quote user="Eddy Current"]Still at least now you can be 100% certain that you're not missing out on any improvements if you don't change your mains leads for a pricier juju bead version.[/quote]
Out of interest Eddy, have you actually tried a "pricier juju bead version" mains cable on your system?

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]

"This
'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously
considered as a means of communication. The device
is inherently of no value to us."

[/quote]

If only Sir Clive had wired his C5 with Moondust Juju cable it would have had a range of 1000 miles and reached 120mph instead of being a flop.

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="professorhat"][quote user="Eddy Current"]Still at least now you can be 100% certain that you're not missing out on any improvements if you don't change your mains leads for a pricier juju bead version.[/quote]
Out of interest Eddy, have you actually tried a "pricier juju bead version" mains cable on your system?[/quote]

No. Have you ever performed a rain dance?

 

[professorhat]

Erm, no, but that wouldn't really be relevant as to whether an upgraded mains cable would improve the sound of my system. Here's the current scenario though - someone who has tried an upgraded cable tells me it has improved the sound in his system (and several other people agree, including many Hi-Fi publications). Someone else has now told me, although he's never actually tried one, according to all the science he is aware of, he doesn't think it's possible they could improve the sound.

No offense, but I think I'll side with the people who've actually tried it!

 

[Anonymous]

Someone once told me that they once sat in an orchard and watched an apple rise up into the sky. Personally I'll stick with Sir Isaac Newton.

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="doc42"]
Someone once told me that they once sat in an orchard and watched an apple rise up into the sky.[/quote]

No they didn't.

 

[professorhat]

Ah yes, but the main issue with your argument there is I've seen an apple fall to the ground myself and am completely aware of gravity on a day to day basis of experience. Thus I wouldn't believe the "floating apple" story...

EDIT - Also, I'm sure Eddy Current knows his electronics theory very well, but comparing him to Newton is possibly a bit much...

 

[Clare Newsome]

[quote user="doc42"]
Someone once told me that they once sat in an orchard and watched an apple rise up into the sky. Personally I'll stick with Sir Isaac Newton.

[/quote]

At least Newton had witnessed an apple falling out of a tree before writing about it

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="professorhat"]

No offense, but I think I'll side with the people who've actually tried it!

[/quote]

If you have lots of money to fritter away go right ahead.

 

[John Duncan]

Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........

 

[professorhat]

[quote user="Eddy Current"]If you have lots of money to fritter away go right ahead.[/quote]
Very kind of you.

 

[Clare Newsome]

Though of course with the money-back guarantees on offer from a range of cable companies, no frttering need take place at all.

 

[John Duncan]

I prefer pineapple fritters to apple ones, myself.

Newton had it right with his Third Law, though:

"every action has an equal and opposite reaction (especially in cable threads)"

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]

Though of course with the money-back guarantees on offer from a range of cable companies, no frttering need take place at all.

[/quote]

Just time wasting.

 

[professorhat]

[quote user="Clare Newsome"]Though of course with the money-back guarantees on offer from a range of cable companies, no frttering need take place at all. [/quote]

Indeed. Something which has also always made me a little suspicious of those who would claim the impossibility of a cable improving performance is, they always seem to be very much against someone actually trying a cable out for themselves. As if, if they do, they're scared they might find it does make a difference... Maybe that's why they don't try them themselves?

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="JohnDuncan"]Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........[/quote]

http://royalsociety.org/news.asp?id=3880

 

[Anton90125]

[quote user="JohnDuncan"]Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........[/quote]

Yes he did in that it Newtonian physics is only an approximation which breaks down under close scrutiny.

No doubt when a TOA is developed that can combine relativity with quantum physics then Einstein will be similarly disproved.

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="doc42"][quote user="JohnDuncan"]Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........[/quote]

http://royalsociety.org/news.asp?id=3880
[/quote]

Oh well then. 7 million people read The Sun, doesn't make it right.

 

[Anton90125]

[quote user="doc42"][quote user="JohnDuncan"]Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........[/quote]

http://royalsociety.org/news.asp?id=3880
[/quote]

Tell that to the people of Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

 

[Anonymous]

[quote user="professorhat"]if they do, they're scared they might find it does make a difference[/quote]

It's more a case of knowing it won't.

Interconnects and especially speaker cables could and do quite often make a difference, but you seem completely unable to grasp why that is a completely different case to mains leads.

 

[John Duncan]

[quote user="doc42"][quote user="JohnDuncan"]Einstein disproved Newton.

I'm not sure we're comparing apples with apples here though...........[/quote]

http://royalsociety.org/news.asp?id=3880
[/quote]

Or, to continue a more appropriate line of argument - I said that Einstein disproved Newton's Universal Law of Gravitation (by finding a counterexample), I didn't say that Einstein's dad was bigger then Newton's dad, or indeed that one could 'have' the other.