Budget amp bloodbath

[manicm]

Auidolab taking the crown? Remember there's still the new Musical Fidelity being launched shortly to crash the party. But it seems the Brio has finally been relegated.

View: https://youtu.be/0aFgZiwTFV4?si=waclODuhd-tzgDmB

 

[RoA]

I am using the old 6000A. Great amp. If the new one is better it certainly gets my thumbs up.

 

[manicm]

I am using the old 6000A. Great amp. If the new one is better it certainly gets my thumbs up.

Out of the box it has HDMI, and a newer DAC chip.

 

[Al ears]

Out of the box it has HDMI, and a newer DAC chip.

Not sure if inclusion of gadgets make it a better amp.
More convenient for some I guess.

 

[manicm]

Not sure if inclusion of gadgets make it a better amp.
More convenient for some I guess.

They have made technical improvements inside besides the DAC. Tarun was emphatic it's better sounding than the Mk1. It's also 100 quid cheaper than the Brio.

 

[Al ears]

They have made technical improvements inside besides the DAC. Arun was emphatic it's better sounding than the Mk1. It's also 100 quid cheaper than the Brio.

So it may be but a second-hand 6000a may still be a better buy for some.

 

[twinkletoes]

"Technical improvements" needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Great thats its cheaper as "improvements" normally means more expensive.

I would think of it more like this Improved at the price point/ the same for less

 

[manicm]

So it may be but a second-hand 6000a may still be a better buy for some.

People who want to buy new will buy new. Your statement doesn't make sense at all. HDMI is a big draw, as the DAC will be a big draw in the new Brio.

Any secondhand purchase will 'be a better buy for some', as one's budget permits. But you seem to discount the improvements on the new models, audio and otherwise.

 

[manicm]

"Technical improvements" needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Great thats its cheaper as "improvements" normally means more expensive.

I would think of it more like this Improved at the price point/ the same for less

And you say this factually. no?

 

[Al ears]

People who want to buy new will buy new. Your statement doesn't make sense at all. HDMI is a big draw, as the DAC will be a big draw in the new Brio.

Any secondhand purchase will 'be a better buy for some', as one's budget permits. But you seem to discount the improvements on the new models, audio and otherwise.

I would question why hdmi is a big draw in a budget amp.
You might as well get an AV Receiver
And no, minor improvement does mean this amp is a better buy than a second-hand original if you really are on a budget.
Lesson amp gives you more to spend on speakers and that's where it really counts.

 

[manicm]

I would question why hdmi is a big draw in a budget amp.
You might as well get an AV Receiver
And no, minor improvement does mean this amp is a better buy than a second-hand original if you really are on a budget.
Lesson amp gives you more to spend on speakers and that's where it really counts.

1. Dear AI Ears, my first draw to the 6000A Mk2 is the improved sound quality which Tarun in his review confirms. So you obviously do not believe the Mk2 sounds or could sound better?? If you don't let's stop this discussion and no need to read this comment further as you've made up your mind already.

2. You would question why HDMI is a draw in a budget amp?? Well HDMI is prevalent in much more expensive stereo amps too FYI. Why people like me want HDMI in stereo amps is because we don't want the additional faff, expense and space taken by a full AV setup, but would like the convenience of enjoying the sound of a TV through our hifi when watching a show or movie - or perhaps in your purist stereo world you'd rather cut your nose to spite your face?

3. 'Lesson amp gives you more to spend on speakers and that's where it really counts'. That may not be true all of the time for all people. And I repeat again, if no-one has bought these amps before, you'd rather point them to the secondhand older models?? So in your world no-one would buy new hifi?

 

[Al ears]

1. Dear AI Ears, my first draw to the 6000A Mk2 is the improved sound quality which Tarun in his review confirms. So you obviously do not believe the Mk2 sounds or could sound better?? If you don't let's stop this discussion and no need to read this comment further as you've made up your mind already.

2. You would question why HDMI is a draw in a budget amp?? Well HDMI is prevalent in much more expensive stereo amps too FYI. Why people like me want HDMI in stereo amps is because we don't want the additional faff, expense and space taken by a full AV setup, but would like the convenience of enjoying the sound of a TV through our hifi when watching a show or movie - or perhaps in your purist stereo world you'd rather cut your nose to spite your face?

3. 'Lesson amp gives you more to spend on speakers and that's where it really counts'. That may not be true all of the time for all people. And I repeat again, if no-one has bought these amps before, you'd rather point them to the secondhand older models?? So in your world no-one would buy new hifi?

I believe you have completely missed my point on your efforts to promote this new amp.
By for now

 

[twinkletoes]

And you say this factually. no?

what?

Dude you're getting more for less! what you arguing about im agreeing with you!

yet I'd still take an NAD 316bee v2 and a wim pro over this audiolab, and have change for speakers

But if you're going to be a co%k about things like AL im off.

 

[manicm]

what?

Dude you're getting more for less! what you arguing about im agreeing with you!

yet I'd still take an NAD 316bee v2 and a wim pro over this audiolab, and have change for speakers

But if you're going to be a co%k about things like AL im off.

Sorry, I misunderstood your comment.

 

[RoA]

Easy boys 🙂. I am sure this new Audiolab is improved. Personally I use an outboard DAC so no big issue there but there are apparently power supply improvements too.

There seems to be a £100 difference between the original 6000a and the MK2 new. I personally would get the new one for such a small difference unless you buy s/h.

I absolutely love the 6000A so there is little need for me to change this for the successor. Only listening to them side by side would perhaps change that but why bother when I am happy.

 

[Gray]

Easy boys 🙂

Never ceases to amaze me how easily some people spark into an arguement.
No need to get defensive about things.

As for that Tarun geezer, I don't dislike the bloke, though he is a bit smug.
He's listened to quite a bit of stuff - but just because he thinks the new amp sounds better.....doesn't mean everyone would think so of course.

 

[Al ears]

what?

Dude you're getting more for less! what you arguing about im agreeing with you!

yet I'd still take an NAD 316bee v2 and a wim pro over this audiolab, and have change for speakers

But if you're going to be a co%k about things like AL im off.

you obviously don't know me very well Sir!

 

[twinkletoes]

you obviously don't know me very well Sir!

I don’t know anyone on here.

 

[Al ears]

I don’t know anyone on here.

Then if you have decided that I am a co%k please keep it to yourself.
Thanks in anticipation......
There's always the Ignore option.

 

[Jasonovich]

What?
Men fighting in the bar room, chairs and bottles flying in all directions.
Ooooops..... Did somebody mentioned cables? 🤣