Replacing my project debut II

[margin_walker]

After almost 10 years my pro next debut II has given up the ghost and rather than pay to get it fixed I think my money will be better spent on a new TT. I have a budget of about 500 quid and was hoping for a bit of advice on a decent upgrade.

ta

MW

 

[Al ears]

Welcome to the forum.

Do you want to buy new?

If so I can suggest either Project 1xpression carbon or Rega RP3.

Do you have a decent cartridge as some of these come pre-fitted with a cartridge so you can save a bit by buying one without.

If you want to go second-hand it is a bit of a minefield.

 

[margin_walker]

Thanks for the reply. I think I'll probably go for new and leave the second hand market to people who know what they are doing. Any reason for going for either the project over the rega and vice versa? I don't have a decent cartridge so would ideally like a TT that came with a decent one and could be upgraded in future.

 

[plastic penguin]

Either Pro-ject or Rega will have a cartridge, the former generally a Ortofon and the Rega their own. They are pretty much a much of a muchness.

 

[Al ears]

Frankly I don't think there is that much between these two turntables.

If you can get the RP3 without a cartridge I would go for that and spend about £100 on a decent cartridge (I do not rate the Elys cartridge that normally comes pre-fitted)

Failing that I would go for the project which I think is very slightly better if only for the fact it has an Ortofon Silver cartridge pre-fitted which is not too shoddy.

 

[stevebrock]

Frankly I don't think there is that much between these two turntables.

If you can get the RP3 without a cartridge I would go for that and spend about £100 on a decent cartridge (I do not rate the Elys cartridge that normally comes pre-fitted)

Failing that I would go for the project which I think is very slightly better if only for the fact it has an Ortofon Silver cartridge pre-fitted which is not too shoddy.

agrred on the RP3/ELys 2 - i know as i owned one.

Get an RP3 then stick a Nagaoka MP110 or 150 on............lovely!

 

[Al ears]

Frankly I don't think there is that much between these two turntables.

If you can get the RP3 without a cartridge I would go for that and spend about £100 on a decent cartridge (I do not rate the Elys cartridge that normally comes pre-fitted)

Failing that I would go for the project which I think is very slightly better if only for the fact it has an Ortofon Silver cartridge pre-fitted which is not too shoddy.

agrred on the RP3/ELys 2 - i know as i owned one.

Get an RP3 then stick a Nagaoka MP110 or 150 on............lovely!

Cheers!

+1 for the Nag.

 

[margin_walker]

Thanks all. I have been into my local dealers today and they stock the RP3s without cartridges for £480. He didn't rate the elys either and said usually they fit the ortofon red to go with it. Is everyone agreed I should request a nagaoka instead? They seem pretty similar price wise

 

[floyd droid]

Is everyone agreed I should request a nagaoka instead?

Good heavens, yes.

 

[Al ears]

Seconded

 

[Jim-W]

+1 for Nagoka.

The Ortofon Red is very detailed but painfully bright. The Nagoka, any Nagoka, will make your records sound like they should.

 

[Al ears]

+1 for Nagoka.

The Ortofon Red is very detailed but painfully bright. The Nagoka, any Nagoka, will make your records sound like they should.

.... and a Nagaoka will sound even better!

 

[floyd droid]

The Ortofon Red is very detailed but painfully shi*e.

Fixt

 

[floyd droid]

Al baby , I know of a brand new Transfig Phoenix S going for just under 1400 clams . Not that i'm trying to get you divorced like.

 

[Jim-W]

I do apologise for my poor spelling; I come from a depraved background.

 

[floyd droid]

Ah !, I've found my long lost brother

 

[margin_walker]

I think my desicion is made. An RP3 with Nag cartridge it is. Thanks for all the advice, I'll let you all know what I think once I have got it home and set up.

ta

MW

 

[stevebrock]

I think my desicion is made. An RP3 with Nag cartridge it is. Thanks for all the advice, I'll let you all know what I think once I have got it home and set up.

ta

MW

MP110 lovely

 

[DIB]

I know there's a bit of a love in for Nagaoka on these boards at the moment, but I am really loving my new Pro-Ject with 2M Blue, though I don't know how big a jump up from a 2M Red it is.

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[Jim-W]

The 2M Blue is a pretty big jump up; it's far more refined and has better-defined bass and smoother treble whilst maintaining the characteristically detailed Ortofon sound. Overall, It sounds more sophisticated and less shrill. I still think a good Nagaoka or Audio Technica produces, oh how you say, a more vinyl-friendly sound. That's just my ears; other ears are available.

 

[Freddy58]

An interesting read this, as fairly soon I'll be in the market for a half-decent cart

 

[Jim-W]

An interesting read this, as fairly soon I'll be in the market for a half-decent cart

When is fairly soon? It's time you sorted yourself out, Freddy. You old git.

 

[DIB]

An interesting read this, as fairly soon I'll be in the market for a half-decent cart

When is fairly soon? It's time you sorted yourself out, Freddy. You old git.

He will have forgotten about it by tomorrow

.

 

[Freddy58]

An interesting read this, as fairly soon I'll be in the market for a half-decent cart

When is fairly soon? It's time you sorted yourself out, Freddy. You old git.

Oh come on now Jim, ain't you been reading my input?? I move house in a few more weeks, then shortly after, it's "Time For A New Set-Up" (my thread that pretty much everyone ignored)

 

[Freddy58]

He will have forgotten about it by tomorrow

Forgotten what?