Don't be daft, nobody was leaping around like the Jedi in the prequels, any fool can wave a sword around which is all Finn was doing. If he'd been facing a fully trained Sith Lord he'd have been dead a lot more quickly, Ren's not that powerful, certainly not in the Vader league (notice he can't apparently perform a force choke ) and not, apparently anywhere near Rey. Looking at the young Anakin's flying skills (and the same can be applied to Luke), very strong force users appear to have a level of natural ability that doesn't require training, although they need training to reach their full potential.gel said:Nope it doesn't make sense. The Jedi were trained from young by Yoda.The_Lhc said:Oh come off it gel, you don't need Jedi training in order to find an on button! And Finn didn't exactly cover himself in glory, Ren (an apprentice himself as mentioned) defeated him fairly easily.gel said:What happened to Jedi training? These new kids just pick up light sabers and know how to work them? Shouldn't be called episode 7 more like new Star Wars with no training. ?
Rey's a different matter, Ren himself stated she was far more powerful than he is.
My biggest gripe was Captain Phasma, beyond the dreadful name she was built up beforehand as some fearsome improved version of a stormtrooper and yet when it came down to it she was completely useless, actually bringing the shields down before being tossed in the garbage and allowing the entire world to be destroyed, rather than allowing herself to be sacrificed for the greater good of the First Order. Really pathetic, not what I expected at all.