Looking for a record player advice please

[Blacksabbath25]

Ok have not got a clue about which record player to buy to play my first pressing black sabbath vinyl albums On have never played them just collected them as I used my cd instead so I need a good deck to get the best out of my collection without messing my collection up . I used to have a record player years ago I had a pro jet record player I think that's what it was called but it was years ago . So any help would be appreciated thanks

 

[Deleted member 108165]

Ok have not got a clue about which record player to buy to play my first pressing black sabbath vinyl albums On have never played them just collected them as I used my cd instead so I need a good deck to get the best out of my collection without messing my collection up . I used to have a record player years ago I had a pro jet record player I think that's what it was called but it was years ago . So any help would be appreciated thanks

I did answer in the other thread but see that you have also posted here. All depends on how much you want to spend sir as this has been a very expensive year for you so far *smile*

About £325 will get you something decent that won't ruin your records. All depends on what you like/can afford and what attributes you are looking for: belt drive vs direct drive, fixed headshell vs removable headshell, etc.

You will find there are lots of very good guys in this section who will assist you.

 

[Freddy58]

a lot depends on how seriously you want to get into vinyl playing, and how much you are prepared to spend. Get yourself a good turntable and cartridge, and it can be very rewarding.

 

[Al ears]

As above it really will depend on your budget. You will have no trouble connecting it to your amp as it has a moving magnet phono stage built in.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

maybe looking at this price band £425 - £500 but like i say i want the vinyl to sound good and whether this budget gives me this i do not no .

 

[davedotco]

I am guessing that some of your original vinyl is pretty near irreplaceable, in which case I would keep it well clear of budget players.

I would strongly advise to to go and see a dealer who specialises in vinyl and actually knows his stuff, this could be quite enlightening.

I say this because it is my personal opinion that the requirements of good vinyl playback have been 'dumbed down' to fit the 'hipster' market and much of what is on offer at the more affordable end of the market is 'blinged up' rubbish. If you can, try and wait and spend a little more, entry level, for me, is around the £1k mark with the Clearaudio Concept being about the cheapest player I would consider.

Also. I note in your other thread that your equipment is on the top of a high, and presumably heavy chest, whatever you do, do not put a record player on this, take advice.

 

[Daz B]

maybe looking at this price band £425 - £500 but like i say i want the vinyl to sound good and whether this budget gives me this i do not no .

I would say £425 to £500 will buy a good budget turntable that will play your records fine. I have been using a Rega P1 for over 7 years now and the sound reproduction is good in my opinion. Are you looking for new or have you considered 2nd hand ?. If you are looking at new I believe the Rega Rp1 with performance pack will be within your budget.

 

[Daz B]

You can get good vinyl sound within your budget and your records will be OK. I would go and audition taking your records with you. We would all like to spend over £1000 on a turntable but I would in my opinion would spend about £500 and start building up your record collection.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I am guessing that some of your original vinyl is pretty near irreplaceable, in which case I would keep it well clear of budget players.

I would strongly advise to to go and see a dealer who specialises in vinyl and actually knows his stuff, this could be quite enlightening.

I say this because it is my personal opinion that the requirements of good vinyl playback have been 'dumbed down' to fit the 'hipster' market and much of what is on offer at the more affordable end of the market is 'blinged up' rubbish. If you can, try and wait and spend a little more, entry level, for me, is around the £1k mark with the Clearaudio Concept being about the cheapest player I would consider.

Also. I note in your other thread that your equipment is on the top of a high, and presumably heavy chest, whatever you do, do not put a record player on this, take advice.

yes i hear what your saying and happy to wait but will not be till next year anyway as i do not want to rush into buying the wrong deck as it matters to me not ruin my collection so if i need to spend £1000 i will but happy to buy secondhand deck too *smile*

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I am guessing that some of your original vinyl is pretty near irreplaceable, in which case I would keep it well clear of budget players.

I would strongly advise to to go and see a dealer who specialises in vinyl and actually knows his stuff, this could be quite enlightening.

I say this because it is my personal opinion that the requirements of good vinyl playback have been 'dumbed down' to fit the 'hipster' market and much of what is on offer at the more affordable end of the market is 'blinged up' rubbish. If you can, try and wait and spend a little more, entry level, for me, is around the £1k mark with the Clearaudio Concept being about the cheapest player I would consider.

Also. I note in your other thread that your equipment is on the top of a high, and presumably heavy chest, whatever you do, do not put a record player on this, take advice.

yes i hear what your saying and happy to wait but will not be till next year anyway as i do not want to rush into buying the wrong deck as it matters to me not ruin my collection so if i need to spend £1000 i will but happy to buy secondhand deck too *smile* i will have to go to a hifi shop and see what they say as i no nothing about record players as this is all a shot in the dark for me .

 

[MajorFubar]

...theoretically will get you something great for little cash, but like I said in a recent similar thread, it's full of pitfalls if you aren't already quite experienced, especially if you can't listen to it first.

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

 

[Al ears]

I am guessing that some of your original vinyl is pretty near irreplaceable, in which case I would keep it well clear of budget players.

I would strongly advise to to go and see a dealer who specialises in vinyl and actually knows his stuff, this could be quite enlightening.

I say this because it is my personal opinion that the requirements of good vinyl playback have been 'dumbed down' to fit the 'hipster' market and much of what is on offer at the more affordable end of the market is 'blinged up' rubbish. If you can, try and wait and spend a little more, entry level, for me, is around the £1k mark with the Clearaudio Concept being about the cheapest player I would consider.

Also. I note in your other thread that your equipment is on the top of a high, and presumably heavy chest, whatever you do, do not put a record player on this, take advice.

Can I agree with your personal opinion. Whilst the likes of RP1's and Bias cartridges of this world will play vinyl it is something else that's needed to do it justice.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

yes the project xperience 2 classic sounds up my street . the chest i have my hifi on is sold wood and very heavy so will not move in anyway but understand i do need a hifi stand but can not untill my little one is a bit more older . will this till be an issue then that i have my hifi on a big chest as everything is out of harms way . how much for the cart ? as i just looked at richer sounds at this deck and its £745 without cart

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

Vickers hi-fi, £599 but it's in mahogany effect finish,that's the one I bought.click on the olive picture and it'll show you the mahogany.no cart at that price,mind.try and site the turntable as far away from the electronics as possible(on the chest)and make sure it's unlikely to be subject to vibrations.that will hopefully suffice until you get a dedicated rack.btw,those first pressings of sabbath will be worth a few bob,my local vinyl dealer is looking for £400 for the first album.he just sold ultra rare led zep first for just over 5k.

 

[davedotco]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

yes the project xperience 2 classic sounds up my street . the chest i have my hifi on is sold wood and very heavy so will not move in anyway but understand i do need a hifi stand but can not untill my little one is a bit more older . will this till be an issue then that i have my hifi on a big chest as everything is out of harms way . how much for the cart ? as i just looked at richer sounds at this deck and its £745 without cart

The one really good piece of advice has been ignored.

Go and see a compedent dealer and get him to demonstrate the differences, an hour or two of your time will be worth a thousand recomendations.

Regarding equipment support, you have to get this right, a big, solid, heavy piece of furniture is the very last thing to place a turntable on, don't take my word for it, get a demonstration.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

yes the project xperience 2 classic sounds up my street . the chest i have my hifi on is sold wood and very heavy so will not move in anyway but understand i do need a hifi stand but can not untill my little one is a bit more older . will this till be an issue then that i have my hifi on a big chest as everything is out of harms way . how much for the cart ? as i just looked at richer sounds at this deck and its £745 without cart

The one really good piece of advice has been ignored.

Go and see a compedent dealer and get him to demonstrate the differences, an hour or two of your time will be worth a thousand recomendations.

Regarding equipment support, you have to get this right, a big, solid, heavy piece of furniture is the very last thing to place a turntable on, don't take my word for it, get a demonstration.

yes i did say i would see a dealer on one of my posts i would be nuts not too

 

[hybridauth_Facebook_100004211376004]

And I don't recall saying ignore any advice on going to see a dealer.dave."!And buying second hand is not the best way to go about buying a turntable,although I'm sure there are many good s/h units available,but if you don't know what you're really looking at.....

 

[davedotco]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

yes the project xperience 2 classic sounds up my street . the chest i have my hifi on is sold wood and very heavy so will not move in anyway but understand i do need a hifi stand but can not untill my little one is a bit more older . will this till be an issue then that i have my hifi on a big chest as everything is out of harms way . how much for the cart ? as i just looked at richer sounds at this deck and its £745 without cart

The one really good piece of advice has been ignored.

Go and see a compedent dealer and get him to demonstrate the differences, an hour or two of your time will be worth a thousand recomendations.

Regarding equipment support, you have to get this right, a big, solid, heavy piece of furniture is the very last thing to place a turntable on, don't take my word for it, get a demonstration.

yes i did say i would see a dealer on one of my posts i would be nuts not too

Try and find someone decent, Richeroaks and the like are little use in this instance.

Get them to show you the effects of different supports too.

 

[Al ears]

Yeah.you'd be better getting a new deck,as if you buy something s/h it could be missing vital parts and might not realise. I just got a project xperience 2 Classic for £599 (no cart)it has the well regarded 9cc arm(£500 on it's own) and is impeccably finished ,fitted a ortofon 2m blue and it sounds fantastic,you'll wonder why we ever bothered with cd's.9cc arm and 2m blue will keep that lovely sabbath vinyl in good nik.oh and as someone has mentioned,it needs a good solid surface,dedicated kit stand would be the next purchase if I was you.

yes the project xperience 2 classic sounds up my street . the chest i have my hifi on is sold wood and very heavy so will not move in anyway but understand i do need a hifi stand but can not untill my little one is a bit more older . will this till be an issue then that i have my hifi on a big chest as everything is out of harms way . how much for the cart ? as i just looked at richer sounds at this deck and its £745 without cart

The one really good piece of advice has been ignored.

Go and see a compedent dealer and get him to demonstrate the differences, an hour or two of your time will be worth a thousand recomendations.

Regarding equipment support, you have to get this right, a big, solid, heavy piece of furniture is the very last thing to place a turntable on, don't take my word for it, get a demonstration.

yes i did say i would see a dealer on one of my posts i would be nuts not too

Try and find someone decent, Richeroaks and the like are little use in this instance.

Get them to show you the effects of different supports too.

Good plan. The best way, if you can, is to get a wall-mounted shelf for those non-suspended turntables, or any turntable for that matter.

 

[Daz B]

A home demo would be a good option to see what turntable sounds best with your amp and speakers. This would also give you an opertunity to see what a turntable would sound like with your unit.

 

[Al ears]

A home demo would be a good option to see what turntable sounds best with your amp and speakers. This would also give you an opertunity to see what a turntable would sound like with your unit.

You try getting one

 

[Daz B]

A home demo would be a good option to see what turntable sounds best with your amp and speakers. This would also give you an opertunity to see what a turntable would sound like with your unit.

You try getting one

I didn't mean to mislead the op, I really thought some HiFi dealers offered home demo.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

richer sound will let you take home but you would have to pay the full price of the record player before you would be allowed to take home for a demo and then so meany days at home with it before you would have to take it back if you did not like it and then a full refund will be given . not sure about seven oaks hifi

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Vickers hi-fi, £599 but it's in mahogany effect finish,that's the one I bought.click on the olive picture and it'll show you the mahogany.no cart at that price,mind.try and site the turntable as far away from the electronics as possible(on the chest)and make sure it's unlikely to be subject to vibrations.that will hopefully suffice until you get a dedicated rack.btw,those first pressings of sabbath will be worth a few bob,my local vinyl dealer is looking for £400 for the first album.he just sold ultra rare led zep first for just over 5k.

yes some of this black sabbath albums cost a lot of money the first album the proper first pressing with the little phillps labal under the vertico labal is priceless to me and i paid £400 as you try and get a copy of this mint and vol 4 cost me £250 , masters of reality with poster which i have cost me £350 so as you can see i do need to get a good record player to play this lot on or i just buy some cheap second pressings and play them is one option