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chebby said:
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Okay... I'm slightly skeptical of cables per se. However, I've had my SilverScreen since about 2008 and looking to joosh up the sound a little.

I'm looking at perhaps Van den Hul The Clearwater that comes with good reviews. Has anyone heard this cable? Or can anyone recommend a better cable than the Chord to suit my system? Ah, I don't want to spend a fortune either - probably no more than £15 per mtr.

Ta, PP

If you mean speaker cables, then I can heartily recommend Van Damme UP LC-OFC 4mm at £6.28 per metre. (Extra for soldered terminations.)

http://www.a1-sound.co.uk/product/van-damme-hifi-series-speaker-cable-2-x-4mm

That price is expensive - http://www.worldwidemusic.co.uk/van-damme-hifi-series-studio-grade-speaker-cable-400mm-1053-p.asp

Starts at £4.75

Or £4.00

https://markgrant.co.uk/speaker-cables/121-van-damme-2-x-4mm-hi-fi-speaker-cable-up-lcofc-unterminated.html

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chebby said:
plastic penguin said:
Okay... I'm slightly skeptical of cables per se. However, I've had my SilverScreen since about 2008 and looking to joosh up the sound a little.

I'm looking at perhaps Van den Hul The Clearwater that comes with good reviews. Has anyone heard this cable? Or can anyone recommend a better cable than the Chord to suit my system? Ah, I don't want to spend a fortune either - probably no more than £15 per mtr.

Ta, PP

If you mean speaker cables, then I can heartily recommend Van Damme UP LC-OFC 4mm at £6.28 per metre. (Extra for soldered terminations.)

http://www.a1-sound.co.uk/product/van-damme-hifi-series-speaker-cable-2-x-4mm

That price is expensive - http://www.worldwidemusic.co.uk/van-damme-hifi-series-studio-grade-speaker-cable-400mm-1053-p.asp

Starts at £4.75

Or £4.00

https://markgrant.co.uk/speaker-cables/121-van-damme-2-x-4mm-hi-fi-speaker-cable-up-lcofc-unterminated.html

Cannot make clicky due to spam filter blocking me.
 

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4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?
 

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Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

The link deals with fact, so is not relevant to this thread as it mainly for people promoting their opinions as facts (Also known as the golden eared brigade) which have no meaning in the real world.

Bill
 
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

No. Max of 3 metres each side. Current Chords I have 2 metres one side and 3 the other.
 

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abacus said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

The link deals with fact, so is not relevant to this thread as it mainly for people promoting their opinions as facts (Also known as the golden eared brigade) which have no meaning in the real world.

Bill

FWIW I think most people who post on this forum deal in "fact", but it is semantics that can leave some people misunderstood. Misuse of the word "better" for example when perhaps "different" would be more appropriate.

It is scientific "fact" that different lengths/gauges of cable can distort a signal causing loudspeakers to produce a "different" sound. Is it a "better" sound? Well that's a personal thing between the listener and their music. Problem is that many who hear such a difference and like it post their findings as an improvement. Their cables are allowing their systems to produce a "better" sound to their ears.

There is a lot to learn in this hobby if one is so inclined. Best to help other on their journey therefore rather than deride.
 

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Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

Pp does not own a mansion
 

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Andrewjvt said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

Pp does not own a mansion

...and he never will if he keeps spending money on cables. *biggrin*
 

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Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
Gazzip said:
Andrewjvt said:
4mm min thickness ofc coper or even better but maybe overkill 6mm. No need to buy from a cable company as waste of money imo.

Are they for the kefs or have you not brought them?

Depends entirely on the length of cable Andrew. Head North of 6 metres and 4mm no longer cuts the mustard.

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/cables/lscables.html

Pp does not own a mansion

...and he never will if he keeps spending money on cables. *biggrin*

Eh?

Look at my opening gambit: "I've had my SilverScreen since about 2008". What year are we in now?
 

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Not shure what you want (other then better sound)

I have the system in my signature, probably no one have noticed any difference (happend today)

I wanted another speaker with more bass,oomph, i also had a slightly to dark,not so clear,open midrange,top (double clearwater) a bit to neutral (don't want to use tonecontrols).

Atm i can't afford new speakers so i remembered another 5 star best buy http://www.whathifi.com/best-buys/best-speaker-cables that was to bright with dali zensor 1 (to bright sound in the first place) and a small denon reciver, i looked and could afford it

The audioquest flx slip 14/4 is much better with my current setup, now the midrange and top is more open,clear still with a good bass without sounding to bright and doesn't cost to much, just under 40£ for 2x4 meter

The AudioQuest, simply put, covers itself in glory. More full-bodied than the QED Ruby Anniversary Evolution, with a better grasp of dynamics than the Atlas Equator 2.0 OFC and with a smoother, cleaner treble than Chord's excellent Carnival SilverScreen, the FLX-SLiP is incredibly easy to listen to.

Combine the Chord’s exuberance with the natural sound of the Atlas, then knock some cash off, and you have the fantastic AudioQuest.
 
Just spoken to Infidelity Hi-fi. He does Chord, Atlas and TQ. They're using the Atlas Hyper 2 in a dem this morning. He's going to get prices for TQ Blue and Atlas Hyper... should be able to pick-up a dem set on either Monday or Tuesday, which he'll let me try for a few days.

The first thing I said to him was, "do speaker cables make a difference?" He replied (obviously), "yes, they do..." but then said more honestly, it depends on your system and you'll need to decide whether you can hear a difference or not. As they don't sell Leema or Electro stuff, he couldn't give me a defining answer one way or the other.
 

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plastic penguin said:
Just spoken to Infidelity Hi-fi. He does Chord, Atlas and TQ. They're using the Atlas Hyper 2 in a dem this morning. He's going to get prices for TQ Blue and Atlas Hyper... should be able to pick-up a dem set on either Monday or Tuesday, which he'll let me try for a few days.

The first thing I said to him was, "do speaker cables make a difference?" He replied (obviously), "yes, they do..." but then said more honestly, it depends on your system and you'll need to decide whether you can hear a difference or not. As they don't sell Leema or Electro stuff, he couldn't give me a defining answer one way or the other.

I still think the best starting point for ANY system, and I mean before one buys anything else, might just be correctly gauged copper speaker cables. At least that way you can be sure that the signal they are passing to/from your proposed kit is as intended and you can assess speakers, amps etc. safe in the knowledge that your speaker cables are neutral. Surely it is much easier to tailor your sound that way?
 

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Unless you have long runs, when resistance can be a factor, differences will be minimal and inaudible between any competently manufactured cable. Maplin speaker cable is fine and cheap.

Chris
 

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