RCA cables

[hifikrazy]

Who's the one with the imagination now ?

It's invariably the guy in the Dacia Sandero telling himself the guy in the Bentley next to him is no better, because there can't be any diffence since both cars will take them from point A to point B. Funnily, the guy in the Bentley never wonders the same thing.

 

[steve_1979]

Cutom ATC SCM50 based speakers, with 6 x custom monoblock amplifiers, custom active crossover (Main monitoring).

Interesting speakers. 8)

Did you build them yourself? Do you have any pictures?

 

[Vladimir]

Who's the one with the imagination now ?

It's invariably the guy in the Dacia Sandero telling himself the guy in the Bentley next to him is no better, because there can't be any diffence since both cars will take them from point A to point B. Funnily, the guy in the Bentley never wonders the same thing.

No. That would be two Dacia Sanderos, one with and one without pearl orange paint and blingy chromed alloys. Which one is faster?

 

[Vladimir]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJXvsCLu6s

 

[hifikrazy]

Who's the one with the imagination now ?

It's invariably the guy in the Dacia Sandero telling himself the guy in the Bentley next to him is no better, because there can't be any diffence since both cars will take them from point A to point B. Funnily, the guy in the Bentley never wonders the same thing.

No. That would be two Dacia Sanderos, one with and one without pearl orange paint and blingy chromed alloys. Which one is faster?

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same. So the two cars must at least have different engines. Anyway in my opinion, cables and isolation are more like he tyres of a car rather than the alloys.

 

[hifikrazy]

Frankly I think having differences in opinion is fine. While people like Vladimir get their point across with humour, class and no requirement for the word nonsense, there are those like TrevC with their annoying obnoxious style - Those I not only have zero respect for but I despise.

 

[Broner]

Who's the one with the imagination now ?

It's invariably the guy in the Dacia Sandero telling himself the guy in the Bentley next to him is no better, because there can't be any diffence since both cars will take them from point A to point B. Funnily, the guy in the Bentley never wonders the same thing.

No. That would be two Dacia Sanderos, one with and one without pearl orange paint and blingy chromed alloys. Which one is faster?

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same.

No he did not. :wall:

 

[lejockey]

@steve1979

Thanks 🙂 Yes, they were the result of over 18 months design and build. They have an asymetrical cross-section internally, and are actively crossed over.

If you pm me I can link you to a picture album showing the design and build process? I am taking them to the anachoic chamber at UCL soon to test them further 🙂

 

[ISAC69]

:read:

"Good Cables merely allow the system's components to perform at their highest level; they won't make a poor system or bad component match

sound good. Start with a high-quality, well-choosen system and select cables and interconnects that allow that system to achieve its highest

musical performance. Remember, a cable or interconnect can't actually effect an absloute improvement in the sound; thee good ones merely

do less harm . "

The Complete Guide to High-End Audio by Robert Harley , Chp. 11 p. 279

 

[hifikrazy]

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same.

No he did not. :wall:

Are you his attorney? Actually you will find that he did, but I'm not going to bother trying to prove it to you because I can't imagine a more unappealing task than to search through all of TrevC's posts to find the relevant one.

 

[steve_1979]

@steve1979

Thanks 🙂 Yes, they were the result of over 18 months design and build. They have an asymetrical cross-section internally, and are actively crossed over.

If you pm me I can link you to a picture album showing the design and build process? I am taking them to the anachoic chamber at UCL soon to test them further 🙂

Unfortunately this forum doesn't allow PM's. But if you can post a link to a picture album I would be very interested to see it (so would a lot of other people here too I imagine).

It will be interesting to to see how they perform in an anachoic chamber too. Your speakers deserve their own thread. It would be much better than reading about cables that's for sure.

 

[alchemist 1]

I blame UKIP for all this unrest, the purple cables sound different..............🙂

 

[Alec]

Frankly I think having differences in opinion is fine. While people like Vladimir get their point across with humour, class and no requirement for the word nonsense, there are those like TrevC with their annoying obnoxious style - Those I not only have zero respect for but I despise.

Nonsense.

 

[andyjm]

@steve1979

Thanks 🙂 Yes, they were the result of over 18 months design and build. They have an asymetrical cross-section internally, and are actively crossed over.

If you pm me I can link you to a picture album showing the design and build process? I am taking them to the anachoic chamber at UCL soon to test them further 🙂

I would second the request for a separate thread on your speakers.

I have recently helped by son with his DT project, active speakers for his PC. He based them on the 'Minidsp' range of DSP crossovers and class D amplifiers. While not a complete success, he enjoyed doing it.

Are you using DSP crossovers yourself?

 

[Broner]

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same.

No he did not. :wall:

Are you his attorney? Actually you will find that he did, but I'm not going to bother trying to prove it to you because I can't imagine a more unappealing task than to search through all of TrevC's posts to find the relevant one.

Nonsense.

 

[TrevC]

Who's the one with the imagination now ?

It's invariably the guy in the Dacia Sandero telling himself the guy in the Bentley next to him is no better, because there can't be any diffence since both cars will take them from point A to point B. Funnily, the guy in the Bentley never wonders the same thing.

No. That would be two Dacia Sanderos, one with and one without pearl orange paint and blingy chromed alloys. Which one is faster?

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same. So the two cars must at least have different engines. Anyway in my opinion, cables and isolation are more like he tyres of a car rather than the alloys.

 

[hifikrazy]

:rofl: Loser tag team!

 

[TrevC]

:rofl: Loser tag team!

You and Norman? 🙂

 

[Vladimir]

Actually not, since TrevC has now progressed to not only declaring that cables are no different, but amplifiers also sound the same.

No he did not. :wall:

Are you his attorney? Actually you will find that he did, but I'm not going to bother trying to prove it to you because I can't imagine a more unappealing task than to search through all of TrevC's posts to find the relevant one.

Nonsense.

Comical.

 

[Glacialpath]

:read:

"Good Cables merely allow the system's components to perform at their highest level; they won't make a poor system or bad component match

sound good. Start with a high-quality, well-choosen system and select cables and interconnects that allow that system to achieve its highest

musical performance. Remember, a cable or interconnect can't actually effect an absloute improvement in the sound; thee good ones merely

do less harm . "

The Complete Guide to High-End Audio by Robert Harley , Chp. 11 p. 279

Wow at last a quote that expllains why cable make a difference. Well found ISAC69 It's funny no one has picked up on this and made some comments about it being hogwash. I have some scientific proof better cables allow any system to work at its best even if that best is poor.

Of course cables don't make a system better but only allow us to hear how good our systems are.

When I have set up a photobucket thingy and I can get my evidence in it I will post them on hear and see how high I can fuel the fire and love that's so evident in this community of Hi-fi enthusiasts.

 

[andyjm]

:read:

"Good Cables merely allow the system's components to perform at their highest level; they won't make a poor system or bad component match

sound good. Start with a high-quality, well-choosen system and select cables and interconnects that allow that system to achieve its highest

musical performance. Remember, a cable or interconnect can't actually effect an absloute improvement in the sound; thee good ones merely

do less harm . "

The Complete Guide to High-End Audio by Robert Harley , Chp. 11 p. 279

Wow at last a quote that expllains why cable make a difference. Well found ISAC69 It's funny no one has picked up on this and made some comments about it being hogwash. I have some scientific proof better cables allow any system to work at its best even if that best is poor.

Of course cables don't make a system better but only allow us to hear how good our systems are.

When I have set up a photobucket thingy and I can get my evidence in it I will post them on hear and see how high I can fuel the fire and love that's so evident in this community of Hi-fi enthusiasts.

This has been posted before. Robert Harley is editor of 'Absolute Sound' magazine that relies on advertising revenue for its business. While that doesn't automatically mean that he is biased, it does raise the question of his impartiality.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Surely it is easy to find a quote to prove or disprove anything. Only believe the Internet if u believe spagetti is harvested from trees. Good scientific experimentation is harder to find in this arena.

 

[Vladimir]

Touraj Moghaddam separated from Roksan to open a new Hi-End audio specialized brand called Vertere. He makes a turntable tonearm that costs $35.000. When asked why does it cost that much he explains something in the logic of just like Formula 1 the last 2% of extracted performance cost like 1000 times than the rest 98% and demand the highest attention, work and engineering knowledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_LYePY07_c

Vertere started off by making cables first. He said cables should "do no harm", just pass on the signal without alterations and the cables that surpase others will cost more because of more attention, work and engineering knowledge invested. Again like in Formula 1, the winners live in the final 2%.

So people who are rich, succesfull and apreciate winners and performance, they want the overpriced 2%ers, not the stock cable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWniZH1YmRM

Makes sense?

 

[ISAC69]

:read:

"Good Cables merely allow the system's components to perform at their highest level; they won't make a poor system or bad component match

sound good. Start with a high-quality, well-choosen system and select cables and interconnects that allow that system to achieve its highest

musical performance. Remember, a cable or interconnect can't actually effect an absloute improvement in the sound; thee good ones merely

do less harm . "

The Complete Guide to High-End Audio by Robert Harley , Chp. 11 p. 279

Wow at last a quote that expllains why cable make a difference. Well found ISAC69 It's funny no one has picked up on this and made some comments about it being hogwash. I have some scientific proof better cables allow any system to work at its best even if that best is poor.

Of course cables don't make a system better but only allow us to hear how good our systems are.

When I have set up a photobucket thingy and I can get my evidence in it I will post them on hear and see how high I can fuel the fire and love that's so evident in this community of Hi-fi enthusiasts.

You are wrong you did not understand waht hi is saying ,

You need to invest in good cables because the bad ones ( usually the cheap ones ) are harming the sound quality , the good one

are doing less harm .

To summarize everyones who claim that all cables are the same :

All the calbes manufactures are crooks

All the Hi Fi Magazines reviewing cables are a part of a scam with the cables industry .

Al the experts and reviewers of cables are crooks too. they don't hear any differnece between cables but they will give a good reviews only to the manufactures that are a part of the scam , the other manufactures that aren't a part of the scam will get a bad reviews .

VERY FUNNY INDEED .

 

[Esra]

seems logical, that´s the way it is :?