Oppo BDP-831?

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pete321

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"wireless bridge to connect the player into the home network, for the princely sum of £18 delivered" - Andrew, give us a hint please.
 

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Yes, the delivery was a bit slow due to postal strikes, but at that price I was happy to wait. It installed without problems and now just powers up and shuts down along with the player.
 

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pete321:Thanks Andrew, I assume as it appears to come
with an ethernet cable, I could use it with my Z7 as well for internet
radio?

Yes, no reason why it wouldn't work, but the USB connection is purely for power, so you won't be able to use it with both a Blu-ray player and the amp at the same time.
 

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Andrew Everard:UPDATE: 'Hands-on' blog preview of the BDP-831 is now online

Andrew - great blog, and answers my "will Mr E be buying one?" question!

Unfortunately (especially as a web-retailed product precludes any demo), that's triggered some more questions!

Hypothetically, if you were someone with no interest in SA-CD, does it still rank as you first choice for BD + DVD?

You say it's fast to turn on / load discs - are we still talking a few minutes, or is it sharper off the mark than that?

(And a more general BD player question on connectivity) will I be better employing:

(A) HDMI to Denon1909 for sound and picture;

(B) HDMI to Denon for picture and sound to Denon via multichannel analogue outputs (and if so, should I turn off all video upscaling in the Denon); or

(C) HDMI to telly (involves buying ANOTHER 3m HDMI!) and audio to Denon either via HDMI/Multichannel analogue outputs.

Hugely sorry for the barrage, but the hype has gotten to me!
 

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Clare Newsome:

And don't forget, the Oppo will be effectively group-tested against the rest of its Blu-ray rivals - including the latest Pioneer, Sony and Denon models - in our Awards issue, which will be with subscribers/pre-orderers/Manchester Show visitors from 17th October.

Clare,

Care to let us know which models are 'effectively' against the Oppo next issue?

Pioneer LX52?

Sony BDP-S760/560?

Denon DBP 2010/1610?

How am i doing here? Am I close?
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Andrew,

Is it as good as a dedicated budget cd player, when using the 2 channel analogue outputs?

What cd player does it compare to, in your opinion?
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Pistol Pete1:
Clare,

Care to let us know which models are 'effectively' against the Oppo next issue?

For all of that you'll have to wait until October 20th.
 

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Pistol Pete1:Is it as good as a dedicated budget cd player, when using the 2 channel analogue outputs?

What cd player does it compare to, in your opinion?
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I'd still buy a budget CD player.
 

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Big Aura:Hypothetically, if you were someone with no interest in SA-CD, does it still rank as you first choice for BD + DVD?

You say it's fast to turn on / load discs - are we still talking a few minutes, or is it sharper off the mark than that?

(And a more general BD player question on connectivity) will I be better employing:

(A) HDMI to Denon1909 for sound and picture;

(B) HDMI to Denon for picture and sound to Denon via multichannel analogue outputs (and if so, should I turn off all video upscaling in the Denon); or

(C) HDMI to telly (involves buying ANOTHER 3m HDMI!) and audio to Denon either via HDMI/Multichannel analogue outputs.

Hugely sorry for the barrage, but the hype has gotten to me!

Probably not, sharper, (A)
 

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Andrew Everard:Pistol Pete1:

Clare,

Care to let us know which models are 'effectively' against the Oppo next issue?

For all of that you'll have to wait until October 20th.

What a tease!!!!
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No, the set-up won't work with Vista. Fortunately it works fine with XP, and since I've long since ditched the flaky nightmare that is Vista in favour of XP - oh, and a trio of machines running Leopard or Snow Leopard -, no problem there...
 
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Great blog. Thought I was the one accused of eulogising! Ha! Nice to see that none of the irritation cause be me and the like over the last months, dampened your enthusiasm for the Oppo Andrew.

I helped run a blind test of the Oppo and a number of other BluRay players over at a North London retailer, TLC Broadcast, a couple of weekends ago, we tested the:

PS3
Sony S350
Denon DVD3800BD
Denon DVD A1UD
Pioneer BDP LX91
Oppo BDP 83

It was the toughest test I've seen as we only tested HDMI using BluRay material. The Amp was the Denon AVP A1HD and POA A1HD combo. Speakers were Pioneer Reference Series, so basically about £20,000 of speakers and amp plus a £13,000 Velodyne 1812 sub. The room was treated and the projector we used was the new JVC 950.

On BluRay material, there just wasn't anything in it, all the players performed well. In fact, although the Oppo came out on top, when we run the test again (with the benefit of a bit of practise now!) in a couple of weeks time, I have no doubt the order will change again, and frankly we were clutching at straws to tell the players apart.

The same was true with audio. Over HDMI, the BluRay audio was outstanding from all the players. The PS3 was broadly considered different, but only sometimes better or worse than the others, just different.

We did one test at the end of the day, between the Denon DVD A1UD and the Oppo using their dedicated 2ch analogue outs into the Denon amps. We played the CD layer of a couple of SACD that we had 2 copies of and you honestly had to hand it to the Oppo, there was barely a difference between them. Next time, we'll do a bit more analogue testing but in my experience personally, I found the HDMI output of the Oppo to be all I'd ever need and my amp and speakers do a wonderful job with it. The Arcam AVR600 has such low jitter levels that it's HDMI audio handling is really quite fantastic.

I'm only puzzled by one thing. Why would you buy a dedicated CD player if you had the Oppo? I couldn't hear more than a tiny difference between the A1UD and the Oppo, which puts the Oppo right up there, why waste the money on another machine, to do a job being done so well already? Now I don't want to see all makers of all other machines go bust, but seriously, why would you want anything else unless you're spending £5,000 plus on a CD player. Even then it would have to be for the analogue outs, and be pretty darned special.

Will look forward to the review in due course. Thanks for the blog. I enjoyed reading it.
 
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From standby, my Oppo takes just under 3 seconds to extend it's disc drawer once the button's been pressed on the remote. Not bad wouldn't you say?
 

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Ah, Mr Harris - we've been expecting you...

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Will Harris:

It was the toughest test I've seen as we only tested HDMI using BluRay material.

So just scratched the surface then, huh?

Will Harris:I'm only puzzled by one thing. Why would you
buy a dedicated CD player if you had the Oppo? I couldn't hear more
than a tiny difference between the A1UD and the Oppo, which puts the
Oppo right up there, why waste the money on another machine, to do a
job being done so well already?

Of course, that assumes the A1UD is a good CD player...
 
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Andrew Everard:
Ah, Mr Harris - we've been expecting you...

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:-D

Missed me dear?
 

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Will Harris: Why would you buy a dedicated CD player if you had the Oppo?

I've had plenty of CD players that sound better than the Oppo, you'd probably have to spend in excess of £300 to notice a difference, but you would notice. I played a ripped CD (WMA Lossless) via my external DAC to the AVR600 and then the actual CD both via the DAC and direct to the AVR600, the WMA Lossless via the DAC beat the Oppo hands down. It's and excellent BD/DVD/SACD/DVD-A/MKV player but it doesn't compare to a dedicated CD player.
 

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