Thank you, that goes some way to reucing my concerns. I have a very clean and constant mains supply so the Brio should have a good chance of being silent. You'll be the second to know if it's not.
Well I hope it's not going to be sods law when I take it back and it's silent!
My Marantz PM6003 and Pioneer A400 have never hummed, and nor did a NAD-whatever I had for a couple of days a while back. I'm not an electrician but I think I can safely say that it's not caused by any internal interference in the house.
My Marantz PM6003 and Pioneer A400 have never hummed, and nor did a NAD-whatever I had for a couple of days a while back. I'm not an electrician but I think I can safely say that it's not caused by any internal interference in the house.
So you've bought it then.
I'm sure my replacement tomorrow will be exactly the same. Enjoy! :cheers:
I'm sure my replacement tomorrow will be exactly the same. Enjoy! :cheers:
Yes, I took a chance and rather nice it sounds too. Fingers crossed that you're lucky with your replacement.
Only "nice"? Even with the hum mine sounds better than that!
What have you got your's hooked up to.
What have you got your's hooked up to.
Well never thought I would say this when listening to my hi-fi but silence is golden!
And a big thanks to Paul Darwin at Rega for getting this resolved so quickly. Fantastic customer service. 🙂
And a big thanks to Paul Darwin at Rega for getting this resolved so quickly. Fantastic customer service. 🙂
Cheers mate, but I was still dreading plugging it in!
However, they had tested it before sendnig it out so I wasn't too concerned but was still sweating! lol
However, they had tested it before sendnig it out so I wasn't too concerned but was still sweating! lol
AnalogEars said:
Haha Yeah you're right. I've had a really good session with it tonight with no anxieties for a change.
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further developments on this issue ...
Originally Posted by HiFiOutlaw
Hey guys:
Have you Ever come across with something like this...?
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/...buzzing-brio-r
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art K.
Yep, sure have. Truth is, every exceptional amp I've ever owned made noise. The Sonneteer, Unison Research and the Rega Brio-R. Every mediocre one has not. The NAD's, Marantz and so on. Naim is famous for a bit of noise.
When you first plug in a Brio-R you hear the rush of power filling the caps and a hum that subsides very quickly. At this point there is a light hum/buzz that I can hear with my ear about 6 inches from the speaker in a dead quiet room. There is also a low level transformer hum at the amp that you can barely hear with your ear right next to the amp in a dead quiet room.
I'm one picky SOB and if it were audible while I listened to music (at any volume including very low) I would be bothered. It isn't and I'm not. Every amp I've owned that has been able to communicate like the Brio-R has had this kind of noise in common. BTW I mentioned this somewhere in this thread.
The amp has been on without being turned off for a few weeks now I can tell you that besides the Sonneteer (a $2800 amp) I have not owned an amp that allows me into the musical discussion between artists like this one does. The Sonneteer Alabaster was able to do that with just a bit more resolution and I mean just a bit. I couldn't be more satisfied.
A little more info to follow up on what I said about Naim. The following is a quote from the Naim forum admin, Richard Dane;
"High performance toroids, as used by Naim, are very expensive but give unmatched sound performance. If they have a weakness, it's that they can buzz when there is pollution, excessive DC or interference on the mains. Ironically, it seems that the higher the quality of steel (and correspondingly the better sound performance), the more prone a toroid is to buzzing. Naim go to enormous lengths to try to ensure that any possible transformer buzz is minimised, but it's almost impossible to prevent it entirely without compromising the sound performance of the transformer. If you want to know more, ask your Naim dealer to arrange a tour of the Naim factory, where you can learn more about this. They have been working on this issue for as long as they have been fitting toroids to their equipment. I guess they will continue to do so until they find a higher performance alternative."
This has been done to death at the Naim forum and this is not a complete explanation (far more complete ones do exist on that forum) but it is simply a quote I ran across today from Richard. The Naim forum is one of the most tolerant of criticism I've seen from a manufacturer.
Originally Posted by HiFiOutlaw
Hey guys:
Have you Ever come across with something like this...?
http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/...buzzing-brio-r
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art K.
Yep, sure have. Truth is, every exceptional amp I've ever owned made noise. The Sonneteer, Unison Research and the Rega Brio-R. Every mediocre one has not. The NAD's, Marantz and so on. Naim is famous for a bit of noise.
When you first plug in a Brio-R you hear the rush of power filling the caps and a hum that subsides very quickly. At this point there is a light hum/buzz that I can hear with my ear about 6 inches from the speaker in a dead quiet room. There is also a low level transformer hum at the amp that you can barely hear with your ear right next to the amp in a dead quiet room.
I'm one picky SOB and if it were audible while I listened to music (at any volume including very low) I would be bothered. It isn't and I'm not. Every amp I've owned that has been able to communicate like the Brio-R has had this kind of noise in common. BTW I mentioned this somewhere in this thread.
The amp has been on without being turned off for a few weeks now I can tell you that besides the Sonneteer (a $2800 amp) I have not owned an amp that allows me into the musical discussion between artists like this one does. The Sonneteer Alabaster was able to do that with just a bit more resolution and I mean just a bit. I couldn't be more satisfied.
A little more info to follow up on what I said about Naim. The following is a quote from the Naim forum admin, Richard Dane;
"High performance toroids, as used by Naim, are very expensive but give unmatched sound performance. If they have a weakness, it's that they can buzz when there is pollution, excessive DC or interference on the mains. Ironically, it seems that the higher the quality of steel (and correspondingly the better sound performance), the more prone a toroid is to buzzing. Naim go to enormous lengths to try to ensure that any possible transformer buzz is minimised, but it's almost impossible to prevent it entirely without compromising the sound performance of the transformer. If you want to know more, ask your Naim dealer to arrange a tour of the Naim factory, where you can learn more about this. They have been working on this issue for as long as they have been fitting toroids to their equipment. I guess they will continue to do so until they find a higher performance alternative."
This has been done to death at the Naim forum and this is not a complete explanation (far more complete ones do exist on that forum) but it is simply a quote I ran across today from Richard. The Naim forum is one of the most tolerant of criticism I've seen from a manufacturer.
Hi-FiOutlaw said:
Thank God I have a mediocre Marantz amp. It doesn't buzz, hiss or hum.
Has anybody seen the inside of that Brio-R? Isn't there a little bit of place left to shield the transformer?
Me too. TBH I hadn't bothered putting my ear that close to the speaker to see if I could hear a buzz, seemed a bit irrelevant.
I was thinking of buying a Brio R to replace my RA04 Se amp since it is supposed to have a good phono stage, but all this talk of humming on this thread has put me off. Perhaps squeezing all the electronics into such a small box was a bad move by Rega. I am still looking for an amp with a good phono input, for under £1000. Has anybody any ideas ?
WILLDEWHURST said:
I have :wave: . The Sonneteer Campion: fine phonostage, extremely musical amp and under 1000,- !
And mine is still not humming or buzzing :shhh: even after 11 years....
yeah, the Brio R 🙂 Seriously, this thread about humming and buzzing is making the whole issue bigger than it actuallly is. I never ever heard it in mine, except after reading this thread and putting my ear to the speaker. And yes, I too have a 'small hum'. But a Naim has it too, and the explanation is perfectly viable.
But this all doesn't matter if you start playing music. And each and every time I do that the Brio R makes me smile. Big time!
But this all doesn't matter if you start playing music. And each and every time I do that the Brio R makes me smile. Big time!
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I don't care if Brio r hums or buzzz I'm going to buy it anyway!!!!!!!! Just wanted to share what is happening in other forums and other brands, which in my opinion Naim is so believable (if not more) than Rega, and has the same little problem! this makes them so special and magnificent and is related to the technique cofiguration! The Rega Brio R is a bestseller, and in the future no doubt that will be a collectible item!
On my replacement amp you have to put your ear less than 6" from the speaker to hear the faintest buzz which is absolutely no problem whatsoever. If you weren't listening for it you really wouldn't know its even there.
Has mentioned my first amp you could hear audible humming at 12 feet, which at best meant you had to turn the amp off if you wern't playing a CD as it was so annoyingly intrusive, or at worst it impinged on particularly quiet sections of certain tracks (Laura Marling springs to mind).
Has mentioned my first amp you could hear audible humming at 12 feet, which at best meant you had to turn the amp off if you wern't playing a CD as it was so annoyingly intrusive, or at worst it impinged on particularly quiet sections of certain tracks (Laura Marling springs to mind).
I ended up getting my money back after realizing that the humming is just a part of the package.
Now I have bought a Roksan Kandy K2 instead - more expensive, no humming + an even lovelier sound!
I have kept my Rega DAC, since it matches the Kandy K2 nicely.
Next is a speaker upgrade to match the qualities of the Kandy K2 - leaning towards Epos M16i floorstanders.
Now I have bought a Roksan Kandy K2 instead - more expensive, no humming + an even lovelier sound!
I have kept my Rega DAC, since it matches the Kandy K2 nicely.
Next is a speaker upgrade to match the qualities of the Kandy K2 - leaning towards Epos M16i floorstanders.
I also own a Rega Brio-R and I can also hear a tiny bit of humming when the volume is at 0. I don't sit very close to the speakers, so it is not a problem for me. When turning up the volume using the remote, the humming gets louder.
This is a minus, but it is no problem at all. I am very pleased with this amp!
This is a minus, but it is no problem at all. I am very pleased with this amp!
I have a one week old Brio R with buzzing and humming. I can hear it from anywhere in the room and it is especially noticeable at night when everything else is quiet. It also swithces to Input 2 everytime I turn it on. I thought this was some sort of feature.
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