It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Honestly, do you think Interconnects and Cables make a difference?
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Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
You have no idea what you're talking about.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
JoelSim:
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
You have no idea what you're talking about.
LOL.
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
You have no idea what you're talking about.
LOL.
If you don't believe it makes a difference, then you are certainly entitled to your own opinion on the matter.
Like JoelSim however, I DO!
Like JoelSim however, I DO!
igglebert:
Well, I really don't hear a difference. It has been proven time and
time again that it's a load of baloney. I challenge you to a blind
test, with any amount of money on the table. What do you say?
Well, I really don't hear a difference. It has been proven time and
time again that it's a load of baloney. I challenge you to a blind
test, with any amount of money on the table. What do you say?
MattSPL
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Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
MattSPL:
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
Why? I have an Arcam A85 amp, Arcam CD192 and Monitor Audio RS6's. No difference between £2 cables and £80 cables to my ears - none whatsoever..
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
Why? I have an Arcam A85 amp, Arcam CD192 and Monitor Audio RS6's. No difference between £2 cables and £80 cables to my ears - none whatsoever..
maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
MattSPL
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Ollie.:MattSPL:
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
Why? I have an Arcam A85 amp, Arcam CD192 and Monitor Audio RS6's. No difference between £2 cables and £80 cables to my ears - none whatsoever..
A high resolution system will show subtle changes in partnering equipment. Your A85 may be the culprit. Also, cables are expensive. You can buy cables for reasonable money, say £30-50, but you need to spend more to get big gains but need the system to match.
Ollie.:It's a load of marketing rubbish. People buying expensive power leads and cables really need to grow up. Even speaker wire cable makes absolutely no difference whatsoever. I'd challenge anyone to a blind test..with any amount of money on the table..
Just out of interest, what sort of system do you have? Because if you can't hear any difference in cables, you either have an hite system or your deaf.
Why? I have an Arcam A85 amp, Arcam CD192 and Monitor Audio RS6's. No difference between £2 cables and £80 cables to my ears - none whatsoever..
A high resolution system will show subtle changes in partnering equipment. Your A85 may be the culprit. Also, cables are expensive. You can buy cables for reasonable money, say £30-50, but you need to spend more to get big gains but need the system to match.
To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
this is a joke ..................right.......anyway my post needs answering.....please help me match my Denon pma 250ii to some speakers which are crystal clear, detail and tight bass........ any suggestions around £300?
Craig M.:maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
that's better, much more mature.
and anyhow, what's it matter to you what i or anyone else believes?
be careful or i'll set the wererabbit on you. since i'm obviously childish.
and anyhow, what's it matter to you what i or anyone else believes?
be careful or i'll set the wererabbit on you. since i'm obviously childish.
igglebert:To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
MattSPL
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Ollie.:
Craig M.:maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
Telling people to grow up and stop buyin power cables and challenging them to a duel is agressive.
Craig M.:maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
Telling people to grow up and stop buyin power cables and challenging them to a duel is agressive.
Yeah, the RS1s are cracking for the money to be honest. They need smoothness and control though.
Ollie is correct I'm afraid. In ABX testing not one 'golden ear' has ever been able to identify between different cables or many other components for that matter. It is a marketing gold pot and people naively buy into it and waste their money needlessly, filling the pockets of the con men that perpetuate the lies. Longer lengths of cable will make a difference when you take into consideration resistance, inductance etc, but aside from that so long as a reasonable amount is spent, no difference. Peoples minds cannot be changed on a forum like this however, they will defend their beliefs religiously. To each his own, if I could afford expensive cabling then, to be fair, I would! lol
Ollie.:
igglebert:To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
but iggys view is that they can make a difference, not the most consistent attacker of others opinions i've ever seen...
igglebert:To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
but iggys view is that they can make a difference, not the most consistent attacker of others opinions i've ever seen...
qube2:Ollie is correct I'm afraid. In ABX testing not one 'golden ear' has ever been able to identify between different cables or many other components for that matter. It is a marketing gold pot and people naively buy into it and waste their money needlessly, filling the pockets of the con men that perpetuate the lies. Longer lengths of cable will make a difference when you take into consideration resistance, inductance etc, but aside from that so long as a reasonable amount is spent, no difference. Peoples minds cannot be changed on a forum like this however, they will defend their beliefs religiously. To each his own, if I could afford expensive cabling then, to be fair, I would! lol
y'see ollie, that's how to do it. fair play to you.
y'see ollie, that's how to do it. fair play to you.
MattSPL:Ollie.:
Craig M.:maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
Telling people to grow up and stop buyin power cables and challenging them to a duel is agressive.
You don't think the companies marketing strategies are aggressive? Telling people to buy something that we all know makes absolutely no difference whatsoever?
Craig M.:maybe try through some more revealing kit? i thought the same as you until recently, maybe you need to grow up and stop posting unnecessarily aggressive posts.
What's aggressive about my posts? Maybe you need to grow up and stop believing all the hype.
Telling people to grow up and stop buyin power cables and challenging them to a duel is agressive.
You don't think the companies marketing strategies are aggressive? Telling people to buy something that we all know makes absolutely no difference whatsoever?
MattSPL
Well-known member
qube2:Ollie is correct I'm afraid. In ABX testing not one 'golden ear' has ever been able to identify between different cables or many other components for that matter. It is a marketing gold pot and people naively buy into it and waste their money needlessly, filling the pockets of the con men that perpetuate the lies. Longer lengths of cable will make a difference when you take into consideration resistance, inductance etc, but aside from that so long as a reasonable amount is spent, no difference. Peoples minds cannot be changed on a forum like this however, they will defend their beliefs religiously. To each his own, if I could afford expensive cabling then, to be fair, I would! lol
So your trying to say that every reviewer and audiophile who buys cables is wrong?
Don't think so some how. I know my cd collection pretty well. Some cd's in particular ive listened to thousands of times at this stage. And i know when i hear some new inner detail on a disc id not heard before until i upgraded a particular cable or component.
So your trying to say that every reviewer and audiophile who buys cables is wrong?
Don't think so some how. I know my cd collection pretty well. Some cd's in particular ive listened to thousands of times at this stage. And i know when i hear some new inner detail on a disc id not heard before until i upgraded a particular cable or component.
Craig M.:Ollie.:
igglebert:To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
but iggys view is that they can make a difference, not the most consistent attacker of others opinions i've ever seen...
I can still respect another person's views without agreeing with them..
igglebert:To be serious for a second Olli, fair play to you. If different cables don't make different noises to you then it makes the hifi hobby easier. Each to their own experiences. My other half couldn't tell the difference between my Monitor Audio RS1s and Spendor SA1s. Everybody has a different ear.
Cheers Iggy. I respect your view too..My sister has the MA RS1's and they're unreal..
but iggys view is that they can make a difference, not the most consistent attacker of others opinions i've ever seen...
I can still respect another person's views without agreeing with them..
It makes me think of the whole Super Unleaded Petrol thing; possibly a bit misunderstood, a bit mis-marketed, a bit overpriced and probably not always used to the best effect.
Anyway, I'm going to park that thought as it's a whole new can of worms
Anyway, I'm going to park that thought as it's a whole new can of worms
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