Do any Amps exist with frequency bandwidth control

[drummerman]

Get a high class, powerful valve amplifier, integrated or mono blocks from someone like Icon Audio. Sell the Halo.

My 2c's if you want to keep the PMC's.

And that will turn the PMCs into 'disco' speakers? 

100 good, dynamic valve watts = 400 controlled but stilted SS watts.

Fun, emotion etc etc.

Still, the OP is determined to dissect and cannibalize his PMC's ... creating Frankenspeaker

 

[Vladimir]

Cheapest solution I can think of is 6 of these.

 

[Vladimir]

Get a high class, powerful valve amplifier, integrated or mono blocks from someone like Icon Audio. Sell the Halo.

My 2c's if you want to keep the PMC's.

And that will turn the PMCs into 'disco' speakers?

100 good, dynamic valve watts = 400 controlled but stilted SS watts.

Fun, emotion etc etc.

Still, the OP is determined to dissect and cannibalize his PMC's ... creating Frankenspeaker

Don't forget that 1 Cyrus dynamics watt = 7.34 valve supreme Class A watts.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Your not going to turn them PMCs into active speakers are you Newlash ? Be crazy shame if you did

 

[newlash09]

Now iam too confused . As davedotco mentioned, maybe I should stop at passive tri amping as I am not sure removing the filters from the inbuilt crossover will be a good thing. Dirac + passive tri amping should give me the sonic gains iam looking for and keep me entertained for some time to come

Was considering going class D. Don't want any of the airy stuff that reviewers bandy every day. Just want completely neutral, clear and powerful amps

 

[Vladimir]

Dave said there are no benefits of passively triamping. You only get some benefits if you completely remove the passive crossovers and use an active crossover setup. The main problem is that you don't have the know-how, experience and equipment to build a better driver integration than what the passive crossover already does. insider suggested you buy cheap speakers and practice active crossover setup on them so you don't destroy your PMCs in the learning process.

And finally, the end results wont be what you desire them to be. We already know, because the drivers are all the wrong kind. They will never sound like those Yamahas.

You invested a lot of money and effort to have speakers (based on reading brochures and forums) to be proud of, but you were shocked that the cheap bar speakers sounded better to you and now you're chasing your tail. This is begginer audio hobby mistake number 1. Don't buy what others think its best. Buy what you think/hear its best.

You bought the wrong speakers. At least don't destroy them.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Can you sell the PMCs Newlash in India ok or would it be an issue doing so as we are Lucky our end with sites like eBay so we can sell stuff on a lot easer here but what’s it like your end for selling high priced items on but I would definitely not take them PMCs apart .

 

[Vladimir]

Or not sell them. Just buy a pair of PA speakers like your mate with the money you plan to use and ruin the PMCs. Then play with those, special cables and whatever you can think of to have fun.

Be a **** and buy the one model above his.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Or not sell them. Just buy a pair of PA speakers like your mate with the money you plan to use and ruin the PMCs. Then play with those, special cables and whatever you can think of to have fun.

Be a **** and buy the one model above his.

I think it’s a case of not wasting money on something that might not work and ruin a good pair of speakers in the process and chasing your tail and to be satisfied with what your got sell the PMCs get a load of money back and buy the Yamaha speakers and keep things simple .

 

[newlash09]

Point well noted mr.vladimir and blacksabbath. Will not harm the PMC's.

As my hifi resides in my dining room, I can't replace the PMC's with the yamaha's. Will not be domestically acceptable to the wife.

Iam shifting residence tomorrow. And will be able to setup my speakers in the new place around Christmas. Will add dirac or minidsp first, and see how it goes.

Next step would be to improve amplification. I can sell the parasound and use the funds for 3 class D amps. Will that give sonic gains above the parasound in a passive tri Amping setup

 

[Vladimir]

Or not sell them. Just buy a pair of PA speakers like your mate with the money you plan to use and ruin the PMCs. Then play with those, special cables and whatever you can think of to have fun.

Be a **** and buy the one model above his.

I think it’s a case of not wasting money on something that might not work and ruin a good pair of speakers in the process and chasing your tail and to be satisfied with what your got sell the PMCs get a load of money back and buy the Yamaha speakers and keep things simple .

Those PA speakers are something like $600. He can buy them and have them together with the PMCs. No need to sell anything. And this wole idea of needing Class D power is pointless as well. You can electricute King Kong with his Parasound amp. Plenty of power already.

Sometimes I think we need exorcist services in this hobby.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I tell you something Newlash I would love to own some Dali epicon 6 speakers but I have to be content with what I have now and some obvious reasons like the fact they cost £7000 and the other is my wife would kill me if I brought them as much as I love to own them .

would they be any better then my opticon 8s ? Do not no I will never no because at some point you have to draw the line and say yep that sounds good and that’s the best I can afford .

Now you know you brought them PMCs blind and you liked them before you heard the Yamaha speakers you sell the PMCs and buy the Yamaha speakers or you keep the PMCs and forget the Yamaha speakers or you buy a better amplifier that is well matched with PMCs speakers .

sit down with some favourite music of yours and listen hard to the PMCs and say honestly what the bad points are on the PMCs and what the good points are and then workout what you could do to improve the bad points .

 

[newlash09]

I can't find any weaknesses in the PMC's or the parasound. And iam also happy with the sound I presently have. This is the best sound I've had ever. Just that there is always this urge to improve things further

But what you mentioned really makes sense blacksabbath. I have to draw a line somewhere. Will just add dsp and enjoy the music for now.

The devil is dead now

 

[insider9]

Main reason l suggested a cheap active conversion is so that you can understand what active gives.

A lot of people when comparing passives and actives have the wrong impression what it is that is gained by going active. The only way to actually understand the difference is with a pair of speakers that can be run both active and passive. Comparing even similar models of passive and active speakers is like comparing apples to oranges.

It may be that after a cheap conversion you will decide that the benefit of going active with PMCs is simply not worth the financial outlay.

 

[newlash09]

I do have a pair of audiopro floor standers that I can experiment on. But will have to think it over.

They will be connected to my daughter's keyboard via my spare Sony str dn 850 for her music classes. But they are the cheapest scape goats that I have

But will leave the PMC'S and the concept 40's as they are.

I was previously under the impression that active tri-amping does not have any de merits. But it looks all too risky on further dissection. So will let the tri amping ghost lie for now.

Thanks to all for enlightening me again

 

[Blacksabbath25]

I can't find any weaknesses in the PMC's or the parasound. And iam also happy with the sound I presently have. This is the best sound I've had ever. Just that there is always this urge to improve things further

But what you mentioned really makes sense blacksabbath. I have to draw a line somewhere. Will just add dsp and enjoy the music for now.

The devil is dead now

It’s a dangerous road Newlash I’ve been there before and it’s not worth it and I do understand ones you have everything your brain starts thinking what can I get now it just goes round in circles Newlash it really does we all like collecting boxes lol

 

[insider9]

Hey we've all been there. It comes in waves. First the anticipation before the purchase then the euphoria and slight uncertainty if we made the right choice, then more uncertainty of what else is there

Final stage is certainty... of what can actually be improved. Once you're there upgrade but not before. Seriously enjoy, you have a great system. If it doesn't sound right it means you're not in a mood. That's fine. You don't have to have it on all the time.

I've got a cold at the moment. I've not played a single track today. 3.5 albums yesterday but none today. I have a headache and I'm sure my paranoia would find a number of things that could be improved although system sounded amazing only yesterday.

 

[Blacksabbath25]

Hey we've all been there. It comes in waves. First the anticipation before the purchase then the euphoria and slight uncertainty if we made the right choice, then more uncertainty of what else is there

Final stage is certainty... of what can actually be improved. Once you're there upgrade but not before. Seriously enjoy, you have a great system. If it doesn't sound right it means you're not in a mood. That's fine. You don't have to have it on all the time.

I've got a cold at the moment. I've not played a single track today. 3.5 albums yesterday but none today. I have a headache and I'm sure my paranoia would find a number of things that could be improved although system sounded amazing only yesterday.

hifi is very mood related some days your relaxed and the music sounds good and other days you could feel stressed or down in the dumps and the fact that what ever music you put on will relate to the mood You are feeling .

i look at my hifi as therapy for my mind and if I do not get to listen to music I feel apart of me is missing it’s an important part of my life it’s sad I know but we all have are luxuries in life .

 

[DocG]

Cheapest solution I can think of is 6 of these.

Cheapest for sure, but really quiet too, those empty cases...

 

[Vladimir]

Cheapest solution I can think of is 6 of these.

Cheapest for sure, but really quiet too, those empty cases...

Oops!

 

[Electro]

Probably not a pactical solution to ship Nord amplifiers to India but it maybe possible.

https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/

Colin is now selling the new Icepower units as well as Hypex .

https://www.nordacoustics.co.uk/single-post/2017/11/23/New-BO-ICE-Power-1200AS2-Module-arrives-for-Evaluation-First-module-to-use-the-new-ICE-Edge-chipset-600W-into-8Ohms-1200W-into-4Ohms

 

[newlash09]

Had considered the Nord mono blocks when considering tri-amping. But have rested my case now.

Will not think about changing anything for the next few years. Except add a mini-dsp or Dirac in the digital domain

 

[nopiano]

I’m glad you've been dissuaded otherwise I’d have said much the same as others already have!

Your new home will sound quite different I’m sure. It’ll take a while to get everything set up to your satisfaction. Good luck with the move!

 

[newlash09]

Will see how my setup sounds in my new house