A converted sceptic

[davidvann]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

 

[davidvann]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

 

[davidvann]

sorry double post.:doh:

 

[TrevC]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

Criticizing hifi mythology nonsense like burn in isn't the same thing as putting someone down. If you look back you will see I always try to play the ball, not the person.

 

[Vladimir]

Oh, you can't do it in your CDP/Cassette/TT? Tough luck, you have to time travel forward to the 21st century.

What an utter load of narcissism.

Not suprising coming from someone who has a pic of the most uninspired, untalented, unmusical, antivirtuoso director of 20th century (who no surprises here, joined Nazi party in 1933) in his avatar.

 

[ISAC69]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

TrevC thinks he is a big expert in the Hi Fi world : all the cables sound the same to him , there is no need for burn in period for components act. act.

The true is that is hearing isn't sensitive enough to notice all the differences that distinguishing between good Hi Fi system to a medicore one .but he will never admit that sad true :wall:

 

[Vladimir]

Maybe we should attack each other's arguments, not each other personally. :wave:

 

[TrevC]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

TrevC thinks he is a big expert in the Hi Fi world : all the cables sound the same to him , there is no need for burn in period for components act. act.

The true is that is hearing isn't sensitive enough to notice all the differences that distinguishing between good Hi Fi system to a medicore one .but he will never admit that sad true :wall:

So, to summarise, you think my ears are simply not good enough to hear imaginary differences that you can hear in items that cannot possibly sound different. I think I can live with that.

 

[pauln]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

The true is that is hearing isn't sensitive enough to notice all the differences that distinguishing between good Hi Fi system to a medicore one .but he will never admit that sad true :wall:

Now that is a talent - long distance, remote audiology. Diagnosis by telepathy is it?

 

[TrevC]

double post

 

[matthewpiano]

This thread represents a lot of time arguing instead of listening to music!

 

[simonlewis]

This thread represents a lot of time arguing instead of listening to music!

Agreed !!

Thats why i'm watching NCIS.

 

[CnoEvil]

This thread represents a lot of time arguing instead of listening to music!

I like to compromise.....Arguing to music.

 

[TrevC]

Tellurium Q Black [speaker cables] - Tellurium Q Ultra Black [RCA interconnects] - WireWorld Stratus 7 [power cords]

About £500 wasted?

 

[Vladimir]

This thread represents a lot of time arguing instead of listening to music!

I'm listening to Tina Brooks - True Blue as we speak. Also I just noticed the forum doesn't have a "listening to music" smiley.

 

[ISAC69]

hi trev c ,no im not missing the point,the point is at every given chance you are always putting people down saying there findings are wrong ,cables i/c isolation burn in,i dont think at any point that you may of considerd you might be wrong,and there findings might be very real to them.ive never seen a book the laws of hifi by trev c,i dont claim to be an expert,but i dont go about putting people down for what there hearing,sorry i feel better now after my little rant.:silenced:

TrevC thinks he is a big expert in the Hi Fi world : all the cables sound the same to him , there is no need for burn in period for components act. act.

The true is that is hearing isn't sensitive enough to notice all the differences that distinguishing between good Hi Fi system to a medicore one .but he will never admit that sad true :wall:

So, to summarise, you think my ears are simply not good enough to hear imaginary differences that you can hear in items that cannot possibly sound different. I think I can live with that.

"Anyone who has listened to loudspeakers cables and line-level interconnects will have discovered that cables and interconnects start to sound better (smoother treble,greater ease, less grain, more dimensioal soundstage) after they've been in the system for a few days. this phenomenon is often called "break-in" . It's easy to understand " break-in" of loudspeakers drivers and phono cartridges (the rubber surround in loudspeaker deivers and the rubber suspension in cartridges relaxes with use) ... "

The Complete Guide to High-End Audio by Robert Harley . Ch. 11 p. 293

Don't give me the nunsense that I imagine things ...

 

[ifor]

Tellurium Q Black [speaker cables] - Tellurium Q Ultra Black [RCA interconnects] - WireWorld Stratus 7 [power cords]

About £500 wasted?

i'm an open minded sceptic, but Trev you're a bore. If you feel so strongly about it why not hang around the websites of the manufacturers you believe are crooks and leave this forum ...

 

[ifor]

Tellurium Q Black [speaker cables] - Tellurium Q Ultra Black [RCA interconnects] - WireWorld Stratus 7 [power cords]

About £500 wasted?

i'm an open minded sceptic, but Trev you're a bore. If you feel so strongly about it why not hang around the websites of the manufacturers you believe are crooks and leave this forum ...

 

[steve_1979]

I'm listening to Tina Brooks - True Blue as we speak. Also I just noticed the forum doesn't have a "listening to music" smiley.

Here. You can borrow this one.

 

[Vladimir]

Robert Harley is Editor-in-Chief of The Absolute Sound magazine. His more than 1000 published equipment reviews and articles on high-quality music reproduction and home theater have helped thousands of consumers improve their home-entertainments systems.

He sells Hi-Fi equipment AND Hi-Fi books for the coffee tables of the same targeted consumer - the balding middle aged male with disposable income.

Is he the academic source to go for objective unbiased opinion?

 

[steve_1979]

Homo unius libri

Scientia est lux lucis

Cōleī!

Thank god for Google. :type:

 

[ISAC69]

From ProAc Installatin Guide page 6 :

Like all thoroughbreds, proac loudspeakers need to be broken in. The drive units are pair mached and tested for frequency response, distortion and phase, but expect to run them in for at least a week before any serious auditioning can take place. Anticipate a further one or two months before optimum performance is achieved .

This excatly what happened to me first my Proacs sound harsh and bright it took about 6 month before they started to sound excellent as it should be .

 

[ifor]

Homo unius libri

Scientia est lux lucis

Cōleī!

Thank god for Google. :type:

+1

 

[TrevC]

This thread represents a lot of time arguing instead of listening to music!

I'm listening to Tina Brooks - True Blue as we speak. Also I just noticed the forum doesn't have a "listening to music" smiley.

 

[ISAC69]

Enjoy :dance: