Ooooh... just got meself a Blu-ray player/thanks to BB

[plastic penguin]

Okay, I've disabled the surround sound by taking each speaker on the menu to 0 dbs, then I pressed something else (can't think of anything I haven't touched before) and the whole sound is fine. Now have to find a way, if possible, of seeing if it can take the home DVD-RW discs.

F### me I've been at this nearly all evening. I'm off to bed and look at it from a different perspective in the morning.

 

[John Duncan]

p24 of the manual. Downmixing Mode. Set it to stereo.

 

[chebby]

... then I pressed something else (can't think of anything I haven't touched before) and the whole sound is fine.

Excellent.

I'll bet you are looking forward to getting that DAC now

Lots of fun ahead there!

 

[plastic penguin]

... then I pressed something else (can't think of anything I haven't touched before) and the whole sound is fine.

Excellent.

I'll bet you are looking forward to getting that DAC now

Lots of fun ahead there!

Oh man, that's cruel.

So far the word "fun" has been at the bottom of my vocab. Certainly noticed additional grey hairs that weren't there a few days ago.

Next job is to try and tackle the DVD-RW and DVD-R recordings. Would be easy to say stuff them, but most of the home recordings aren't readily available on "proper" DVDs.

 

[John Duncan]

What are they and how many are there? Do they both not work or do -Rs work and not -RW (which is common)?

 

[plastic penguin]

What are they and how many are there? Do they both not work or do -Rs work and not -RW (which is common)?

Got around 80 of the critters, all a mixture of RW and Rs. Neither of them work (random discs) so I'll clean them up later and see whether does the trick.

Reluctant to hark back to the Pioneer, but that device played them without a single issue.

I have other problems which only came to light a couple of nights ago: To have the DVD player, Sky Box and the TV playing out of the amp is a no-go without a Dac, unless I can find a way of getting the TV Audio to work -- the amp has run out of inputs. However, I'm trying to deal with one issue at a time.

 

[abacus]

If you’re not familiar with setting things up then it can be confusing, (Modern equipment is designed for HDMI where you connect one cable and it works OOTB) however in your case you have a double whammy as Samsung have the worst menu system on the market today, so it’s hardly surprising you are having problems.

Bill

 

[chebby]

However, I'm trying to deal with one issue at a time.

That's the problem right there.

Unless you can buy everything you need in one 'hit', then you need to have a plan / idea / vision of exactly what the 'end system' is going to do for you (both in terms of function and connectivity and compatibility) so that when all the various elements have been put in place - eventually - it will all work exactly as you envisaged.

 

[plastic penguin]

However, I'm trying to deal with one issue at a time.

That's the problem right there.

Unless you can buy everything you need in one 'hit', then you need to have a plan / idea / vision of exactly what the 'end system' is going to do for you (both in terms of function and connectivity and compatibility) so that when all the various elements have been put in place - eventually - it will all work exactly as you envisaged.

True but if I can get the Audio out to work on the TV it would solve those lingering problems. This was the problem when I first purchased the TV about 2 years ago. Somebody, can't remeber who, suggested running a cable from the headphone socket on the TV... the SQ, however, was dreadful. As the TV has 3 HDMI connections, solving the above issue will be a great relief.

Anyway just been onto the LG chat line but no rep was available. I've subsequently phoned them and they're getting someone to call me back. Staying positive, but not over confident of a solution.

 

[7760]

Oh, so there's no TV audio out regardless of source? And what about direct, off-air TV sound, is that being transmitted?

And have you at least made the Samsung BDP to output the desired signal, by setting the analogue out to "[stereo] downmix"?

True but if I can get the Audio out to work on the TV it would solve those lingering problems. This was the problem when I first purchased the TV about 2 years ago. Somebody, can't remeber who, suggested running a cable from the headphone socket on the TV... the SQ, however, was dreadful. As the TV has 3 HDMI connections, solving the above issue will be a great relief.

 

[plastic penguin]

Oh, so there's no TV audio out regardless of source? And what about direct, off-air TV sound, is that being transmitted?

And have you at least made the Samsung BDP to output the desired signal, by setting the analogue out to "[stereo] downmix"?

True but if I can get the Audio out to work on the TV it would solve those lingering problems. This was the problem when I first purchased the TV about 2 years ago. Somebody, can't remeber who, suggested running a cable from the headphone socket on the TV... the SQ, however, was dreadful. As the TV has 3 HDMI connections, solving the above issue will be a great relief.

The TV has audio outputs (interconnects) but can't get the sound out either on DVD or TV. I messed around with the settings... there must be a way of getting some sound, otherwise....

 

[chebby]

My gut feeling is that you will - eventually - need to start over with a TV that has digital stereo output (optical or co-ax for a future DAC) and an analogue stereo output (preferably 2 x RCA) for now.

Then audio from anything 'hanging' off the TV with HDMI connections (and from the TV itself) will all go through one 'pipe' saving you from using more than one connection (digital or analogue) no matter how many devices you have feeding the telly. This will mean you only need one optical (or co-ax) connection on a future DAC and - until the DAC - only one L-R AUX RCA pair on your amp.

This is why I paid (a bit) of a premium a few years ago - when I bought our current TV - to ensure all possible connectivity options were covered. I waited almost a year for it's launch price of £1179 to drop to £549 (with free 5 year JL warranty) then jumped on it before the model got replaced by the next year's range.

 

[plastic penguin]

Just conversed with LG and the only way to play all sources thru the TV is by using 'Optical Out' but that'll mean getting a Dac.

Just spent £200 today on my daughter's school uniform. back to square one.

 

[simonlewis]

Just spent £200 today on my daughter's school uniform. back to square one.

*shok* Aldi do a school uniform for £4.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jul/16/cheap-school-uniform-discount-wars-aldi-mumsnet

 

[John Duncan]

Why are you back to square one?

 

[chebby]

Just spent £200 today on my daughter's school uniform. back to square one.

*shok* Aldi do a school uniform for £4.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jul/16/cheap-school-uniform-discount-wars-aldi-mumsnet

You've never had school-aged kids then?

Both of our daughter's (state) junior schools had major elements of their school uniform and sportswear that were only available from two local department stores. (Many items that had the school crest embroidered or printed so couldn't be bought elsewhere.)

£200 for a complete set of new uniform and sports gear is actually pretty good. Then you get onto all their stationery for the term and then lists of required books and school-trips etc. etc.

 

[simonlewis]

No partner, no children. *sad*

 

[plastic penguin]

Why are you back to square one?

Back scratching my barnet I mean.

 

[plastic penguin]

Just spent £200 today on my daughter's school uniform. back to square one.

*shok* Aldi do a school uniform for £4.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jul/16/cheap-school-uniform-discount-wars-aldi-mumsnet

You've never had school-aged kids then?

Both of our daughter's (state) junior schools had major elements of their school uniform and sportswear that were only available from two local department stores. (Many items that had the school crest embroidered or printed so couldn't be bought elsewhere.)

£200 for a complete set of new uniform and sports gear is actually pretty good. Then you get onto all their stationery for the term and then lists of required books and school-trips etc. etc.

That's just the stuff with the school logo/colours. Still need socks, tights, rugby top, shoes, pens, pencils, erasers... the bloody list is endless.

 

[plastic penguin]

Just spent £200 today on my daughter's school uniform. back to square one.

*shok* Aldi do a school uniform for £4.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jul/16/cheap-school-uniform-discount-wars-aldi-mumsnet

No mate, the high school, even though normal state run, they have their own colours and logos which can only be purchased in one shop locally.

JD's eldest is (I think) the same age as my daughter so he knows how much these shops bump up the prices.

 

[plastic penguin]

Anyway, back on topic. There's still the issue of what to do about the TV aerial. The problem stemmed back to when we had the DVD-R first fitted (November 2004) the engineer from the shop needed to fit a coax 'In' and 'Out' of the player (why or how really can't remember) but the Blu-Ray doesn't have those connections. So at the moment, until I arrange an engineer, it is all a bit Heath Robinson with the DVD-R standing up at the back of the TV rack with the aerials and the Blu-Ray sitting on the shelf.

So a question to Chebby and others: are there any Blu-Rays that have a built-in Dac? If not how much would I need to spend on a Dac that'll support 2-HDMIs (Blu-ray and Sky box into the TV) and a digital optical (TV to Dac)/RCA interconnects out t'other end?

 

[abacus]

Purchases a DAC with an optical input then connect an optical cable from the TV to the DAC and a pair of analogue interconnects from the DAC to the amplifier.

Plug all your equipment into the TV, then whatever input is selected on the TV will go straight to the amplifier.

This is your simplest solution for your difficulties.

Regarding aerials, get an aerial amplifier with enough outputs to feed all the equipment that need an aerial connection, this way all you will need are enough aerial leads to plug into your equipment, and the main aerial lead can then be just plugged into the aerial amplifier.

Hope this helps

Bill

 

[plastic penguin]

Purchases a DAC with an optical input then connect an optical cable from the TV to the DAC and a pair of analogue interconnects from the DAC to the amplifier.

Plug all your equipment into the TV, then whatever input is selected on the TV will go straight to the amplifier.

This is your simplest solution for your difficulties.

Regarding aerials, get an aerial amplifier with enough outputs to feed all the equipment that need an aerial connection, this way all you will need are enough aerial leads to plug into your equipment, and the main aerial lead can then be just plugged into the aerial amplifier.

Hope this helps

Bill

Okay, thanks for that. What would be the minimum dac to look at? It is now not the case of improving SQ but just to get the whole AV family working in harmony.

 

[daveh75]

Anyway, back on topic. There's still the issue of what to do about the TV aerial. The problem stemmed back to when we had the DVD-R first fitted (November 2004) the engineer from the shop needed to fit a coax 'In' and 'Out' of the player (why or how really can't remember) but the Blu-Ray doesn't have those connections.So at the moment, until I arrange an engineer, it is all a bit Heath Robinson with the DVD-R standing up at the back of the TV rack with the aerials and the Blu-Ray sitting on the shelf.

It will have been to 'pass through' terrestrial signals to the TV tuner.

If you're no longer using the DVD-R then disconnect it and connect the aerial connection (the one currently connected to the DVD-Rs 'in') directly to the TVs aerial in.

 

[plastic penguin]

Anyway, back on topic. There's still the issue of what to do about the TV aerial. The problem stemmed back to when we had the DVD-R first fitted (November 2004) the engineer from the shop needed to fit a coax 'In' and 'Out' of the player (why or how really can't remember) but the Blu-Ray doesn't have those connections.So at the moment, until I arrange an engineer, it is all a bit Heath Robinson with the DVD-R standing up at the back of the TV rack with the aerials and the Blu-Ray sitting on the shelf.

It will have been to 'pass through' terrestrial signals to the TV tuner.

If you're no longer using the DVD-R then disconnect it and connect the aerial connection (the one currently connected to the DVD-Rs 'in') directly to the TVs aerial in.

Two years ago, when the digital switchover took place, an engineer came in while I was at work and ever since there's a box of tricks on the floor, so I'll have another look tomorrow.