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JoelSim:Try to pick up a second hand Nordost Heimdall

Seconded. Nordost should give you what you want in spades. Try one, if you find it a little too bright give Siltech a try. Plenty detailed but a little sweeter.
 

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JoelSim:Try to pick up a second hand Nordost Heimdall

Seconded. Nordost should give you what you want in spades. Try one, if you find it a little too bright give Siltech a try. Plenty detailed but a little sweeter.

The Nordost are serious money, but I'm hearing nothing but good things. I'll have to see if any of the local dealers stock them and will do a home trial. They'd have to be REALLY good though, to stump up that kind of cash!
 

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Brian123:Have you considered Mark Grant cables?

I haven't heard of those before. Do you have his products in your system? If you do, what are the characteristics of the 'connects?
 

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I received my Silver High Breed 'Metaphor LE' interconnect, this morning. Plugged them straight in. Here are my first impressions:

Firstly, Igg was right, they are extremely detailed. The minute details of a vocal performance are reveiled once again, after being veiled for a long time by my previous VDH. Hi-hat, ride, china and splash all have a twinkle to them and sound real.

But, they are bass light. The low end of guitars on albums like Meshuggah 'Nothing' have lost their slam, making the sound thin. Without having the bass present, the overall sound is bright, sometimes uncomfortably so.

These impressions are straight out of the box. I'll leave the system playing on mute for a few days to burn in, then have another listen. I won't write these cables off, yet, because if the tonal balance becomes more neutral after burn -in, they could be excellent cables, especially for £16!

I'll update when I have another listen.
 
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That is exactly what you should do, i felt the same as you (except the bass light bit, as mine came out proper puchy and tight although i admit a little bit of slam has gone) and let it burn-in (as they call it) in my system for a a good 20+ hours and they are much better! They are especially good for the cash and really hard to fault because of that low price. :)
 
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Yeah, leaving them in might make a difference.

I came to the same conclusions really. I have the need for one between CDP/Pre and one between Pre/Power and having two SHBs results in some recordings becoming a touch bright and also having a lean sound in the bass. To get the perfect balance I put a Chord Chameleon SP between Pre/Power to get the bass through and an SHB between CDP/Pre. The result is definately more detail and definition than having two CSP.

For the money they're superb.
 

RCduck7

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bretty:I received my Silver High Breed 'Metaphor LE' interconnect, this morning. Plugged them straight in. Here are my first impressions: Firstly, Igg was right, they are extremely detailed. The minute details of a vocal performance are reveiled once again, after being veiled for a long time by my previous VDH. Hi-hat, ride, china and splash all have a twinkle to them and sound real. But, they are bass light. The low end of guitars on albums like Meshuggah 'Nothing' have lost their slam, making the sound thin. Without having the bass present, the overall sound is bright, sometimes uncomfortably so. These impressions are straight out of the box. I'll leave the system playing on mute for a few days to burn in, then have another listen. I won't write these cables off, yet, because if the tonal balance becomes more neutral after burn -in, they could be excellent cables, especially for £16! I'll update when I have another listen.

Great! I almost want to buy these Silver High Breeds and compare them with my AG audio cables, the AG's are a little more expensive.

I guess it would be a long shot to find someone on these or other forums that compared the AG audio's to these or similar sounding cables.

Ebay link...

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/AG-AUDIO-99-99-SILVER-FOIL-RCA-INTERCONNECT-CABLES-75M_W0QQitemZ180399787049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL?hash=item2a00aa4c29&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
 

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RCduck7:
bretty:I received my Silver High Breed 'Metaphor LE' interconnect, this morning. Plugged them straight in. Here are my first impressions: Firstly, Igg was right, they are extremely detailed. The minute details of a vocal performance are reveiled once again, after being veiled for a long time by my previous VDH. Hi-hat, ride, china and splash all have a twinkle to them and sound real. But, they are bass light. The low end of guitars on albums like Meshuggah 'Nothing' have lost their slam, making the sound thin. Without having the bass present, the overall sound is bright, sometimes uncomfortably so. These impressions are straight out of the box. I'll leave the system playing on mute for a few days to burn in, then have another listen. I won't write these cables off, yet, because if the tonal balance becomes more neutral after burn -in, they could be excellent cables, especially for £16! I'll update when I have another listen.

Great! I almost want to buy these Silver High Breeds and compare them with my AG audio cables, the AG's are a little more expensive.

I guess it would be a long shot to find someone on these or other forums that compared the AG audio's to these or similar sounding cables.

Ebay link...

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/AG-AUDIO-99-99-SILVER-FOIL-RCA-INTERCONNECT-CABLES-75M_W0QQitemZ180399787049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL?hash=item2a00aa4c29&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I've just had another listen, after about fourteen hours constant play on mute. Encouraging signs. The bass has increased noticeably. It's still a little light, but definitely better.

I had a look at your link, RC, those cables look interesting. But being purely silver, I expect that they are very detailed but also very bright. Am I correct? You might be impressed with the Silver High Breed, as it is a hybrid of silver and copper, so might have a little more bass than your cables. If the bass keeps improving as the burn in hours tott up, these are going to be the best 'connects i've heard.
 
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I use the silver high breed coherence (no longer made by the seller) .... was a bit more expensive than the current ones the seller offers .... but can say that I am very happy .... Bass, detail and soundstage are superb on my system
 

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Ok, 24 hours burn-in, and i'm currently having my third listen.

Igg and the others who recommended these, thank you. They are transformed from when first plugged in. The bass is back. It's full and tight. I'm listening to Meshuggah 'Nothing' again, as I was for the first listen. The depth to the guitars has returned, but not to the point where it's overwhelming any of the brilliant detailed top end that comes through.

To anyone thinking of trying these cables, I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass, then don't go spending hundreds on interconnects: Get these and spend the savings on CDs.
 
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bretty:Ok, 24 hours burn-in, and i'm currently having my third listen.

Igg and the others who recommended these, thank you. They are transformed from when first plugged in. The bass is back. It's full and tight. I'm listening to Meshuggah 'Nothing' again, as I was for the first listen. The depth to the guitars has returned, but not to the point where it's overwhelming any of the brilliant detailed top end that comes through.

To anyone thinking of trying these cables, I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass, then don't go spending hundreds on interconnects: Get these and spend the savings on CDs.
Glad you took the advice and i told you they would improve. Sounds like you enjoying them as much as me then, hehe. Probably one of the best bargains out there of the moment and up there with ThatCable, am enjoying my music much more now!
 

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Paulthefilmfan:bretty:Ok, 24 hours burn-in, and i'm currently having my third listen.

Igg and the others who recommended these, thank you. They are transformed from when first plugged in. The bass is back. It's full and tight. I'm listening to Meshuggah 'Nothing' again, as I was for the first listen. The depth to the guitars has returned, but not to the point where it's overwhelming any of the brilliant detailed top end that comes through.

To anyone thinking of trying these cables, I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass, then don't go spending hundreds on interconnects: Get these and spend the savings on CDs.
Glad you took the advice and i told you they would improve. Sounds like you enjoying them as much as me then, hehe. Probably one of the best bargains out there of the moment and up there with ThatCable, am enjoying my music much more now!
Yep, you were spot on, Paul. Hopefully they'll keep on improving over the next few days.
I'd love to see WHF? review these and see how they stack up against the silly-money cables out there.

How about it, WHF? staffers? Any chance?
 

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bretty:Paulthefilmfan:bretty:Ok, 24 hours burn-in, and i'm currently having my third listen.

Igg and the others who recommended these, thank you. They are transformed from when first plugged in. The bass is back. It's full and tight. I'm listening to Meshuggah 'Nothing' again, as I was for the first listen. The depth to the guitars has returned, but not to the point where it's overwhelming any of the brilliant detailed top end that comes through.

To anyone thinking of trying these cables, I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass, then don't go spending hundreds on interconnects: Get these and spend the savings on CDs.
Glad you took the advice and i told you they would improve. Sounds like you enjoying them as much as me then, hehe. Probably one of the best bargains out there of the moment and up there with ThatCable, am enjoying my music much more now!
Yep, you were spot on, Paul. Hopefully they'll keep on improving over the next few days.
I'd love to see WHF? review these and see how they stack up against the silly-money cables out there.

How about it, WHF? staffers? Any chance?

This post has a familiar ring to it. I bet the makers of these cables are quaking. Gothams were being sold like hot cakes on the Bay, and then WHF reviewed them and gave a 1 star, the rest is history.
 
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I ordered my metaphor 50cm cable, but when it came to it, SHB discovered they were out of components to make one, so asked if I'd take a coherence 40cm instead. Had it a week or so now, compared to the crimson I was using this cable offers more detail and less issues will bass ( was a little over bearing with the crimson) wider sound stage, ie the sweet spot is broader.

good cable for the money. thanks Igglebert
 

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Gerrardasnails:bretty:Paulthefilmfan:bretty:Ok, 24 hours burn-in, and i'm currently having my third listen.

Igg and the others who recommended these, thank you. They are transformed from when first plugged in. The bass is back. It's full and tight. I'm listening to Meshuggah 'Nothing' again, as I was for the first listen. The depth to the guitars has returned, but not to the point where it's overwhelming any of the brilliant detailed top end that comes through.

To anyone thinking of trying these cables, I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass, then don't go spending hundreds on interconnects: Get these and spend the savings on CDs.
Glad you took the advice and i told you they would improve. Sounds like you enjoying them as much as me then, hehe. Probably one of the best bargains out there of the moment and up there with ThatCable, am enjoying my music much more now!
Yep, you were spot on, Paul. Hopefully they'll keep on improving over the next few days.
I'd love to see WHF? review these and see how they stack up against the silly-money cables out there.

How about it, WHF? staffers? Any chance?

This post has a familiar ring to it. I bet the makers of these cables are quaking. Gothams were being sold like hot cakes on the Bay, and then WHF reviewed them and gave a 1 star, the rest is history.
I don't think this would be the same story as the 'Gotham' saga. It seems that the people that have chosen to use these cables, have had pretty expensive interconnects before-hand, and these SHB cables have surpassed them.

If these cables do hold their own against the really expensive cables, it would be great for as many people as possible to find out about them, as they are such a bargain.

So, if Clare, Andrew or any other of the staff members read this, would you do a review? I'd love to see it, i'm willing to buy the interconnect and send it to you, if that would sway you!
 

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bretty:........ I would definitely recommend them highly, unless you prefer a bass heavy sound. But if like me, you love detail over huge bass.........

There have been various comments such as yours bretty about the bass and also 'brightness'. IMHO, if you like your bass then SHB are right up your street. If you like a thumping, thudding noise that can overwhelm the music, then you are not really a bass fan. You have just got used to an over emphasis of ill-defined bass. An equivalent would be saying you are a fan of vocals and preferring a sound that has the vocals drowning out the rest of the music and to make it worse, you cannot make out all of the lyrics.

I felt that the SHBs were a bit bass light at first. It took a while before it dawned on me that I could make out tons of detail that had not been there before. For some metal tracks I was so taken a back by the sound of the kick drum that I ended up having a great chat with Big Chris. He gave me some links to metal drumming on you tube. It is phenominal what those guys can do with a kick drum.

At first the dynamic will feel as if it has gone. But the SQ is much better, the detail is there is spades and then the dynamic is back again. The notes start and stop quicker and bass becomes more musical. Going back to a 'big' bass would be like going back to a Panasonic boom box, all noise and no dynamics.
 
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on this attached forum is 17 pages of reviews / comments from people who have tried and compared the silver high breed to other interconnects / cables

[EDITED BY MODS - HOUSE RULES]
 
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interesting thread do you mind if i quote from it for a paper im writing i realise its whf property
 
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For the record I'm on the slightly more expensive and older Coherence LE. Whether there's any difference to the current ones I have no idea.

These SHB remind me of the Nordost Blue Heaven on the way that they seem to have a lean but full and deep bass. The Chord CSP is simply different rather than worse and I love both. You have to wonder, seeing as a cable can't add anything to the sound, do all of our systems have bloomy bass? We all seem to like the tightness and very slight lean bass of the SHB so how can this be explained away? Maybe the boomier bass of cables like the CSP is explained by signal distortion.
 
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some people have said that the silver high breed interconnects are very similar to the old hitachi LC-OFC which are no longer made/available
 

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I'll ask the test team to check out the SHB interconnects next time we're doing a cables round-up.

It may not have worked out for Gotham, but the ThatCable HDMI did incredibly well after being recommended here/bought on eBay to test!
 

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bretty:RCduck7:

bretty:I received my Silver High Breed 'Metaphor LE' interconnect, this morning. Plugged them straight in. Here are my first impressions: Firstly, Igg was right, they are extremely detailed. The minute details of a vocal performance are reveiled once again, after being veiled for a long time by my previous VDH. Hi-hat, ride, china and splash all have a twinkle to them and sound real. But, they are bass light. The low end of guitars on albums like Meshuggah 'Nothing' have lost their slam, making the sound thin. Without having the bass present, the overall sound is bright, sometimes uncomfortably so. These impressions are straight out of the box. I'll leave the system playing on mute for a few days to burn in, then have another listen. I won't write these cables off, yet, because if the tonal balance becomes more neutral after burn -in, they could be excellent cables, especially for £16! I'll update when I have another listen.

Great! I almost want to buy these Silver High Breeds and compare them with my AG audio cables, the AG's are a little more expensive.

I guess it would be a long shot to find someone on these or other forums that compared the AG audio's to these or similar sounding cables.

Ebay link...

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/AG-AUDIO-99-99-SILVER-FOIL-RCA-INTERCONNECT-CABLES-75M_W0QQitemZ180399787049QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL?hash=item2a00aa4c29&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I've just had another listen, after about fourteen hours constant play on mute. Encouraging signs. The bass has increased noticeably. It's still a little light, but definitely better. I had a look at your link, RC, those cables look interesting. But being purely silver, I expect that they are very detailed but also very bright. Am I correct? You might be impressed with the Silver High Breed, as it is a hybrid of silver and copper, so might have a little more bass than your cables. If the bass keeps improving as the burn in hours tott up, these are going to be the best 'connects i've heard.

They are not bright in my room/components/ speaker setup.

I compared them to QED's for instance, the QED was a little softer sounding while the AG's had a little more energy, drive and detail.

I guess if your system is allready bright sounding they wouldn't turn it around for sure.

The guy from who i bought them has 100% feedback and he ONLY sells this type of interconnect, at least i like them more then the QED's but i haven't compared to that many interconnects (yet), don't know if i should.
 

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Clare Newsome:
I'll ask the test team to check out the SHB interconnects next time we're doing a cables round-up.

It may not have worked out for Gotham, but the ThatCable HDMI did incredibly well after being recommended here/bought on eBay to test!

Thank you, Clare, that would be great.
 

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