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iceman16

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plastic penguin said:
@Chebby

If you read back I wasn't that interested in Yamaha based on the older model I heard years ago. Hoiwever, I was taken by the VU meters - and the local stockist could order one in.
@ PP

there's nothing wrong in VU meters they are good sounding ones it's a very good amplifier at least it's got a very good phono stage .*smile*

I would like to hear the Yam AS2100 soon..
 
@Iceman

Did hear a MF, not in the same league as yours and didn't like it at all. Luxman 550 (I think) which was great but considering the speakers he had (Wilson Benesch Discovery) it should. And older Audio Analogue I heard a few years ago. Like the MF, it didn't float my boat.

After demoing the Yam and Arcam A39 they didn't do enough to justify buying - I'm clear in my mind the sound I like.
 
Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
@Chebby

If you read back I wasn't that interested in Yamaha based on the older model I heard years ago. Hoiwever, I was taken by the VU meters - and the local stockist could order one in.
@ PP

there's nothing wrong in VU meters they are good sounding ones it's a very good amplifier at least it's got a very good phono stage .*smile*

As I originally commented couldn't find a serious fault in the Yam, just wanted a bigger bang for my buck.
 

Blacksabbath25

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iceman16 said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
@Chebby

If you read back I wasn't that interested in Yamaha based on the older model I heard years ago. Hoiwever, I was taken by the VU meters - and the local stockist could order one in.
@ PP

there's nothing wrong in VU meters they are good sounding ones it's a very good amplifier at least it's got a very good phono stage .*smile*

I would like to hear the Yam AS2100 soon..
it's a very good amplifier it just needs the right pairing of speakers and then it's a brilliant amplifier

built like tank build quality like a Bentley not just about UVs it has a excellent phono stage a good headphone amp inside which is separate inside the amplifier .

custom power supply , fully balanced XLR inputs
 

iceman16

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Blacksabbath25 said:
iceman16 said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
@Chebby

If you read back I wasn't that interested in Yamaha based on the older model I heard years ago. Hoiwever, I was taken by the VU meters - and the local stockist could order one in.
@ PP

there's nothing wrong in VU meters they are good sounding ones it's a very good amplifier at least it's got a very good phono stage .*smile*

I would like to hear the Yam AS2100 soon..
it's a very good amplifier it just needs the right pairing of speakers and then it's a brilliant amplifier

built like tank build quality like a Bentley not just about UVs it has a excellent phono stage a good headphone amp inside which is separate inside the amplifier .

custom power supply , fully balanced XLR inputs

thanks bs..

I think.for the money it worth every penny..
 

drummerman

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Tis a very impressive amp, however when it comes to complex beats the Pulse is better. Very good for rock music when it comes to timing, but have to concede the Yamaha digs deeper with the LFs.

Perhaps you should try cyrus. Very fast, hits hard (as was compared to an Exposure over at PFM).

However, for rhythm and toe tapping the cyrus plus PSX-R is beaten by the 930/Sony.
 

Blacksabbath25

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plastic penguin said:
Tis a very impressive amp, however when it comes to complex beats the Pulse is better. Very good for rock music when it comes to timing, but have to concede the Yamaha digs deeper with the LFs.
that's strange as I have no issues with complex beats or timing

maybe your leema is best suited to the PMCs better as your using stand mounted speakers that are monitors speakers.

i am using floor standing full frequency speakers that are fast when they want to be as I play any kind of music from the Aristocrats to thrash music and that's very complex music start stop , mixes fills speed drumming you hear it all I even listen to classic music too like toccata- organ music what ever I put on the Yamaha keeps up .

if it was me I would keep the amplifier you have and buy some better speakers because it sounds like you missing out buy some PMCs 21 , 23s go and take your amplifier to the shop and try some bigger PMCs and see if you want to change your amplifier then .
 
Have to agree if I heard your amp in isolation I wouldn't have an issue as regards complex drums etc. But in direct comparison the Pulse has the upper hand -- not by much but it is noticable.

In a some areas your Yam is better: Deeper bass, creamier midrange and huge pleasant all-round. Where the Pulse has the upper hand, apart from rhythms is imaging and very fast, leaner bass, which suits my room and tastes. This is why I'm erring towards the Tucana.

No, those TBs are wonderfully balance and my ears can't stand extreme detail on the newer Twenty range (great for short listening but harder to live with if you play for hours at a time, which I do), hence why I sold the Grado headphones and purchased some cheaper Sennheisers.
 

Blacksabbath25

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plastic penguin said:
Have to agree if I heard your amp in isolation I wouldn't have an issue as regards complex drums etc. But in direct comparison the Pulse has the upper hand -- not by much but it is noticable.

In a some areas your Yam is better: Deeper bass, creamier midrange and huge pleasant all-round. Where the Pulse has the upper hand, apart from rhythms is imaging and very fast, leaner bass, which suits my room and tastes. This is why I'm erring towards the Tucana.

No, those TBs are wonderfully balance and my ears can't stand extreme detail on the newer Twenty range (great for short listening but harder to live with if you play for hours at a time, which I do), hence why I sold the Grado headphones and purchased some cheaper Sennheisers.
I was just thinking on the complete music range that you could get with your leema with a speaker that maybe give you more what your after .

yes I no what you mean about headphones I ended up buying beats headphones in the end not a lot of money but they sound ok to me .
 

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Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!
 
Appreciate what you are saying, BS.

From what Electro said about the TB2is they sound great on multi-thousand pound amps (Electrocompaniet pre/power set-up I think). As I've had these speakers for nearly four years I can't disagree with his sentiments.

Leema and PMC 'i' range just works.

Where in the country do you reside, BS?
 
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I'm sure the Tucana will be a very decent step-up.

I can't ever remember at anytime where I've said the Leema is better than anything. What I have said many times before is "can't think of a better amp at the price I paid", and 7-years of ownership is ample testiment.
 

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plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I was really referring to the suggestions from other people....but when somebody knows what they like, either going up the range of the amp they own, or listening to brands that are on the same page with regards presentation, is the way to go.

I think you'd like the Ayre, but they are too hard to find. I think Accuphase and Luxman would be lovely, but again, expensive and hard to find. The Tucana would be a safe bet and should give a decent "leg up" to the next performance level.
 
CnoEvil said:
plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I was really referring to the suggestions from other people....but when somebody knows what they like, either going up the range of the amp they own, or listening to brands that are on the same page with regards presentation, is the way to go.

I think you'd like the Ayre, but they are too hard to find. I think Accuphase and Luxman would be lovely, but again, expensive and hard to find. The Tucana would be a safe bet and should give a decent "leg up" to the next performance level.

This is the problem. Some of the brands are as rare as hens teeth when it comes to dealer supplies. And like you say Luxman and Accuphase brand new is way beyond my means.
 

Blacksabbath25

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plastic penguin said:
Appreciate what you are saying, BS.

From what Electro said about the TB2is they sound great on multi-thousand pound amps (Electrocompaniet pre/power set-up I think). As I've had these speakers for nearly four years I can't disagree with his sentiments.

Leema and PMC 'i' range just works.

Where in the country do you reside, BS?
ely Cambridgeshire
 

Blacksabbath25

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plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I'm sure the Tucana will be a very decent step-up.

I can't ever remember at anytime where I've said the Leema is better than anything. What I have said many times before is "can't think of a better amp at the price I paid", and 7-years of ownership is ample testiment.
I found a leema tucana 2 secondhand on hifi shark in silver £1600 ....http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/mobile/moreinfo.php?pid=36300
 

insider9

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Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I'm sure the Tucana will be a very decent step-up.

I can't ever remember at anytime where I've said the Leema is better than anything. What I have said many times before is "can't think of a better amp at the price I paid", and 7-years of ownership is ample testiment.
I found a leema tucana 2 secondhand on hifi shark in silver £1600 ....http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/mobile/moreinfo.php?pid=36300
Nearly a year old ad. It would be a great price if still available.
 

Blacksabbath25

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insider9 said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I'm sure the Tucana will be a very decent step-up.

I can't ever remember at anytime where I've said the Leema is better than anything. What I have said many times before is "can't think of a better amp at the price I paid", and 7-years of ownership is ample testiment.
I found a leema tucana 2 secondhand on hifi shark in silver £1600 ....http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/mobile/moreinfo.php?pid=36300
Nearly a year old ad. It would be a great price if still available.
sorry missed that just see the price and thought that's a bargain
 
insider9 said:
Blacksabbath25 said:
plastic penguin said:
CnoEvil said:
Everybody thinks "their" amp is best (not surprisingly), so as I have said previously, I think the Tucana will be a revelation in they way it will Turbo Charge" your system....and giving the impression that you have upgraded your speakers as well. Happy Days!

Not quite, Cno. I did say in some areas the Yam was better... I know exactly the sound I need from a set-up and Leema seems to tick all my boxes.

I'm sure the Tucana will be a very decent step-up.

I can't ever remember at anytime where I've said the Leema is better than anything. What I have said many times before is "can't think of a better amp at the price I paid", and 7-years of ownership is ample testiment.
I found a leema tucana 2 secondhand on hifi shark in silver £1600 ....http://www.hifi-forsale.co.uk/mobile/moreinfo.php?pid=36300
Nearly a year old ad. It would be a great price if still available.

Looking at this review you might need to look around for a Stello Ai500, and they can be had for around 1500 euro second-hand.

http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/index.php/amplifiers/47-transistor/209-leema-tucana-vs-stello-ai500.html?start=1

:)
 

drummerman

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Well DM, I did ask you about Cyrus and the pros and cons of the outboard power PSX a few pages ago. Think you concluded by saying "I haven't heard your amp", which wasn't the question.

So the PSX-R loses out when it comes to rhythm, Is that right?

I thought I answered that somewhere before (differences with/without).

Yes, it's loosing a little PRAT and gains refinement.

Often similar when stepping up in amps example Rega Brio, Elex-r, Elicit-r.

There is a guy on youtube that had all three and puts it better in words than me.

I don't think an 8 series with PSX-R is on the same level as a Tucana though.

Just go with the Leema :)
 

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