insider9 said:
What are you disagreeing about?
apologies, I should have been more specific. I was disagreeing with your pc list.
insider9 said:
And where did I say streamers isn't a computer? I see what you call a PC and what I would class as one are completely different devices. NUC is no better than a streamer when it comes to upgrade potential.
Depends on what you want to upgrade. Most NUC's you can upgrade cpu, ram, hard drive. What more do you need to upgrade?
insider9 said:
Sure and I quite agree but which one is the most popular player for Windows?
who said anything about windows?
Volumio, daphile etc all run linux backend - they are complete packages designed to do one thing - play music. As for the most popular player for windows, no idea, does it matter? I'm sure it's more "popular" to listen to music purely on a phone
insider9 said:
I think you will find that most people will use whatever PC they have to play music.
totally agree, but doesn't mean you can use that as a con when there are many alternatives available
insider9 said:
You can indeed but that the whole point I was making. The minute you want to upgrade you're replacing the whole unit no different to a streamer.
what would you be looking to upgrade though? Memory and drive space are all upgradeable on that particular model I linked to. Other models allow you upgrade the cpu.
insider9 said:
If you use what is a traditional PC you can change each component. Also what you're suggesting is severely underpowered should you want DSD and DSP at the same time. And in such a case you'd probably not use it as a PC and just as a stremer due to very limiting hardware.
hang on, where did dsp suddenly come in to it? Genuine question, are there any dedicated music streamers with build in dsp?
As for DSD playback, should be fine, I use a similar powered CPU and that does DSD fine. Most dedicated music streamers will have a lesser powered cpu in it than that one.
insider9 said:
Sure if you don't know what you're doing.
agreed, but I personally object to the mark up level playing on what people don't know, that goes for life as well. here is an exmaple:
http://www.fidelizer-audio.com/nimitra-computer-audio-server/ - cost to you $1395
cost for the motherboard they are using - https://www.logicsupply.com/nl-nl/pd10bi/?cpsrc="nl_shop&agid=mobo&kw=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6tzTs_2x2QIVGZSyCh3JrQivEAYYASABEgLgcfD_BwE" - approx $169
cost for the memory they are using - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kingston-Non-ECC-SODIMM-204-Pin-Memory/dp/B00CQ35GYE - approx $46
cost for the hard drive - doesn't even specify the size, but lets be generous and give it 128gig - https://www.amazon.co.uk/ADATA-Superior-Ultrabooks-Notebooks-ASX8000NP-128GM-C/dp/B01MFH0I0S/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1519043705&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=mPCIe+SSD+128gb - approx $100
case - I think this is the newer version - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Inter-Tech-ITX-E-i7-W60-Black-88881238-Case-60-W/dp/B018J4E80Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1519043968&sr=8-1&keywords=Inter-Tech+E-W60 - approx $98
then they just install windows on it and lob jriver on it and suddenly it's "an audiophile music server"... lol.
So, rough cost say $450 dollars, and they are charging almost 3x that. Yes, I know about overheads, yes I know about support etc, but to me, that's just taking the pee because they stick the word audiophile on it.
I've seen some suppliers that do similar but have very good prices, and hats off to them.