Van den Hul Clearwater speaker cables

[Al ears]

Hi thanks for that,I think that's pretty good advice, but whisper it quietly, but these Chord cables have improved a lot and I think I will now keep them.

You mean your perception of the Chord cables surely....
I'll get my coat......

 

[bigfish786]

This is coming from 30+ years of hifi experience. I didn’t know what good hifi sounded like when I was young, I had thoughts and expectations, but they were miles off.
I guess a lot of people are on the same/similar journey, wondering why stuff sounds bad to them, when others sing their praises. It takes years…. and a fair bit of experimentation, and also a lot of reading, and educating yourself. Once you get it, you are on the right path.
my advice to anyone seeking the “best” is have fun. Experiment, try things, and enjoy the journey.

 

[Gray]

Hi,
Can you state which speaker cable is available in non-OFC copper ?

Unless I'm mistaken, 'Classic' QED 79 strand is their non- OFC version.

 

[Gray]

Back in the mid-1980's I was using copper non-OFC Monster Cables with clear insulation. Over a period of 3 years that copper cable started to turn green and was clearly visible through the clear insulation.

I had just that with OFC cable.
(If anything, it may oxidise more quickly as it gets back what it lost??)

 

[shadders]

Unless I'm mistaken, 'Classic' QED 79 strand is their non- OFC version.

Hi,
QED state it is OFC :

Profile 79 Strand

This iconic speaker cable quickly became an industry standard

www.qed.co.uk

"79 superior grade Oxygen Free Copper strands"
Regards,
Shadders.

 

[A-Line]

Brand: VAN DEN HUL
Model: CLEARWATER SPEAKER CABLE
Price: £10.00/Meter, UNTERMINATED (PRICED PER METRE)

SPECS:
Cable Type: Twin conductor
Conductor Material: High purity dense Silver coated high purity Matched Crystal OFC
Design Purpose/
Application Area(s): Loudspeaker cable
Eff. Conductor Ø/Eq. AWG No./Strands: 2x(1.97 mm² / ~AWG 14 / 98)
External Diameter /
-Dimensions: 15 mm. wide; 4.0 mm. thick
Resistance 20 °C / 68 °F: 0.9 Ohm/100 m.
Capacitance: 17.5 pF/m.
Insulation / Dielectric Strength / Test Voltage: HULLIFLEX ® 3 / 300 Vrms min.

SIMPLE "EVERYDAY" CABLE SIZE CHART:
GA. 4 Ohm 6 Ohms 8 Ohms
22 6 feet 9 feet 12 feet
20 10 feet 15 feet 20 feet
18 16 feet 24 feet 32 feet
16 24 feet 36 feet 48 feet
14 40 feet 60 feet 80 feet
12 60 feet 90 feet 120 feet
10 100 feet 150 feet 200 feet

The correct gauge speaker wire you need is based on 3 things:

Your stereo or amplifier’s power output.

The speaker’s impedance (Ohms) rating – also called the nominal impedance.

The cable length needed for your speaker system.

View: https://youtu.be/atwAOZ6pFqE

 

[Gray]

Hi,
QED state it is OFC :

Profile 79 Strand

This iconic speaker cable quickly became an industry standard

www.qed.co.uk

"79 superior grade Oxygen Free Copper strands"
Regards,
Shadders.

Yes, I too didn't expect them to be selling it as non - OFC and indeed they don't....on their website.
But here's where I saw that 'classic' version 79 strand:

QED Classic 79 Strand Speaker Cable White 5m Pack (R): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Shop QED Classic 79 Strand Speaker Cable White 5m Pack (R). Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.

www.amazon.co.uk

Unless I've missed it, there's no mention of OFC there.
(Though some customers are debating the fact - so it may be somewhere, but 'classic' to me suggests the original, which wasn't).

 

[nopiano]

I suppose that copper is by definition usually ‘mostly’ oxygen free, just as it’s gold free, lead free, water free, pizza free etc. It‘s copper after all! I’m trying to think when OFC became a ‘thing’.

I’m guessing that any copper with more than a minute fraction of oxygen would quickly oxidise - go green - so it was produced such that it was mostly oxygen free. Maybe OFC was coined when the purity reached 99.9999% ?

Who else remembers 6N, meaning six 9s? That is 99.9999%.

 

[Bruzli]

I would like to try Qed Genesis Silver Spiral, they come in standard sizes with terminations straight from the factory, about 300 euro per set. I am not sure there will be a difference with my current Qed 79, but I would bet my money there would be no difference in a blind test with any other 10x more expensive cable.

Looking forward to get my Australe EZ by Triangle order next week, maybe I will try the Silver Spiral.

 

[shadders]

Yes, I too didn't expect them to be selling it as non - OFC and indeed they don't....on their website.
But here's where I saw that 'classic' version 79 strand:

QED Classic 79 Strand Speaker Cable White 5m Pack (R): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Shop QED Classic 79 Strand Speaker Cable White 5m Pack (R). Free delivery and returns on eligible orders.

www.amazon.co.uk

Unless I've missed it, there's no mention of OFC there.
(Though some customers are debating the fact - so it may be somewhere, but 'classic' to me suggests the original, which wasn't).

Hi,
The link i provided states "....www.qed.co.uk/qed-classic-79-strand-cable.html"

As such, the classic is OFC.

Regards,
Shadders.

 

[Gray]

Hi,
The link i provided states "....www.qed.co.uk/qed-classic-79-strand-cable.html"

As such, the classic is OFC.

Regards,
Shadders.

Originally of course, 79 strand QED was not OFC....that link I provided makes no mention of OFC.
You'd think they'd be sure to mention if it was.
Maybe they're selling (very) old, original stock.
Who knows? Who cares? Certainly not anyone still reading this thread 👍

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

I was wondering where it was going!

 

[Gray]

I was wondering where it was going!

It's gone.