Contrary to other posterJMacMan said:I believe that beyond fanboy, you have the term sycophant, albeit I am lead to believe the two terms sometimes go hand in hand as well.Ajani said:I've generally found manufacturers' forums to be the last place to expect censor free discussion. I remember the beating myself and some other persons took on the Emotiva forum for complaining about the poor volume implementation on a DAC. The fanboys acted as if we had insulted their mothers, by daring to suggest that Emotiva had made a mistake with the volume control.
Another thing I find really strange (Just to be clear: I'm not talking about you DM) is that so many fanboys will completely trust the opinion of a manufacturer, yet will claim that HiFi mags can't be trusted because they rely on advertising revenue. So they don't trust HiFi mags because they think the mags are "puppets" of manufacturers, but they trust manufacturers... Huh? :wall:
Often when Hifi enthusiasts struggle to gain knowledge as to how to build or upgrade a system, they grasp the notion handed to them by a salesman that is simple, easy to understand, and appears to work well for them. PRaT as a sales tool from the Linn/Naim era was an excellent example of this.
They then seem to go through a stage of becomming fanboys over a particular brand or marketing term, and oddly seem very prepared to abdicate all further thought into critical aspects of HiFi reproduction, as the simple, easy to understand brand or marketing mantra, works for them, and they cling to it as an evangelist clings to his religous beliefs. Indeed, any further discourse to investigate or critique the brand or marketing term, is repelled with vehement, but often not very logical or factual argument.
However, any discourse from the salesman, or brand spokesman that reinforces the individual and group membership view is treated as Mana from Heaven, and is immediately assmilated into the now group held view with almost blind allegiance.
To my mind, this is where one can loosely term certain HiFi philosophies (such as the now largely discreditied PRaT marketing term) as having a semi faith belief, or religous aspect amongst its adherents - almost like a cult of sorts. The same thing applies to extreme brand fanboys - they become like religious faith believers about a brand and/or it's HiFi philosophy, and indeed as argument and dissent is largely frowned upon by the majority group view, many individual group members become either willing or unwilling sycophants, either too lacking in knowledge to take on the group held view, or leader, and perhaps for that reason, or just insecurity about their level of HiFi knowledge and ability to challenge, bow to the group and leader pressure to conform.
Whatever the psychological behavioural basis behind it, certainly that's been my observation and thoughts of how single brand forums tend to operate.
However, I would add that to get the kind of evangelical following that some brands, such as Naim, AVI, Audio Note & Emotiva, have achieved you have to start with some good and fairly unique products. So persons who try the brand's products and are impressed, become devote followers and believe the brand can do no wrong. "I love my ADM9, therefore the ADM5 must be brilliant and better than any small passive or active monitors on the market. No need for me to even try it msyself, because AVI wouldn't produce it unless it was the greatest." So persons who suggest that you actually wait until you hear the product, before compiling a list of all the speakers it blows out of the water, are seen as heretics.