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Does the AMS 35i have some felt pads under their feet?

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It's too heavy to lift out and look, but they have a "felt-like" feel to them.

Edit. If your pads have worn off, you could check these out: http://www.kronosav.com/valhalla-technology-vt-amplifier-feet-25-prices-reviews.html
 

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Hi Guys,

I was able to grab the ams35 to my home for an audition driving 1028be. Love this amp!!! Very smooth, high resolution sound and great bass control.

Problem is in my country retail price is around $15k... probably I can grab the demo unit for $10k (after traiding in my m6i). I have a much better deal however for the Luxman 590AX, which is also a class-a amp. Have anyone compaired between the MF AMS35i and the Luxman?

I really like to join your club...however seems like price around here is too high.

-mute
 

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Hi Guys,

I was able to grab the ams35 to my home for an audition driving 1028be. Love this amp!!! Very smooth, high resolution sound and great bass control.

Problem is in my country retail price is around $15k... probably I can grab the demo unit for $10k (after traiding in my m6i). I have a much better deal however for the Luxman 590AX, which is also a class-a amp. Have anyone compaired between the MF AMS35i and the Luxman?

I really like to join your club...however seems like price around here is too high.

-mute

Hi Mute and welcome to the forum, and hopefully the exclusive 35 Club.........to which a Luxman will also give you honorary membership. :bounce:

I'm afraid I have not compared these two amps so can't help.

MF don't sell a lot of these amps, so bargain hard.

Be warned, this amp has a way of getting under your skin and becoming addictive.
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mute said:
Hi Guys,

I was able to grab the ams35 to my home for an audition driving 1028be. Love this amp!!! Very smooth, high resolution sound and great bass control.

Problem is in my country retail price is around $15k... probably I can grab the demo unit for $10k (after traiding in my m6i). I have a much better deal however for the Luxman 590AX, which is also a class-a amp. Have anyone compaired between the MF AMS35i and the Luxman?

I really like to join your club...however seems like price around here is too high.

-mute

Hi Mute and welcome.

Whereabouts are you?

If you are able to get hold of an Accuphase

E550 Class A, would also be worth a listen.

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I live in Tel-Aviv, they tax us like crazy around here... Heard about the Accuphase but it should cost more or less the same as the MF.

Anyway tomorrow I should probably teturn the demo unit to the dealer, and begin two negotiation sessions, with the dealer about the price and with my wife to allow me buying the amp...

Indeed addictive staff. If the Luxman will give me a golden ticket to your club, I may go for it, but to be at the decision making forum ;) , I will try getting the MF first. I could not believe it controlled the 1028be better than the 200w m6i, which sounds ok too, but the ams takes the sound sideways converting my focal to B&W-like sound :dance:

Nice talking to you folks,

-mute
 

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I live in Tel-Aviv, they tax us like crazy around here... Heard about the Accuphase but it should cost more or less the same as the MF.

Anyway tomorrow I should probably teturn the demo unit to the dealer, and begin two negotiation sessions, with the dealer about the price and with my wife to allow me buying the amp...

Indeed addictive staff. If the Luxman will give me a golden ticket to your club, I may go for it, but to be at the decision making forum ;) , I will try getting the MF first. I could not believe it controlled the 1028be better than the 200w m6i, which sounds ok too, but the ams takes the sound sideways converting my focal to B&W-like sound :dance:

Nice talking to you folks,

-mute

Though it pains me to say it, I would probably get the Luxman if its a lot cheaper, as it will also sound wonderful.

In case you haven't seen it, here is a good review (also mentions Accuphase): http://www.audiodrom.cz/en-version/314.html

I hope you stick around and let us know what happens.

Cno
 

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mute said:
I live in Tel-Aviv, they tax us like crazy around here... Heard about the Accuphase but it should cost more or less the same as the MF.

Anyway tomorrow I should probably teturn the demo unit to the dealer, and begin two negotiation sessions, with the dealer about the price and with my wife to allow me buying the amp...

Indeed addictive staff. If the Luxman will give me a golden ticket to your club, I may go for it, but to be at the decision making forum ;) , I will try getting the MF first. I could not believe it controlled the 1028be better than the 200w m6i, which sounds ok too, but the ams takes the sound sideways converting my focal to B&W-like sound :dance:

Nice talking to you folks,

-mute

OK, good luck, especially clearing it with the good lady!

If the dealer does happen to have a class A Accuphase at a similar price, , you owe it to yourself to at least take a listen.

Review here; http://dagogo.com/accuphase-e-550-integrated-amplifier-review

The E550 has recently been superceeded by the E560 so there might be a bargain to be had.

Mac
 

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The dealer does not carry the accuphase in his store, however the Luxman dealer (different dude) will pay me a visit during the week, so probably I will be able to compare the two amps side by side.

For now the AMS35 is still at my apartment. Are you guys sure only 50 of them were ever made?

-mute
 

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The dealer does not carry the accuphase in his store, however the Luxman dealer (different dude) will pay me a visit during the week, so probably I will be able to compare the two amps side by side.

For now the AMS35 is still at my apartment. Are you guys sure only 50 of them were ever made?

-mute

AMS 35i vs 590AX is a bake off (literally!) that I'd like to hear the result of.

As for your question......I suspect not:

The original black versions had a black volume knob. I suspect what Neuphonix was told, is that they won't make them again until they can make a run of 50 (which they don't think will sell in the current climate).

Over here, I am fairly sure they will be made to order.....so I'm not sure what's going on, unless they have a different policy outside Europe - where they may want to send batches of at least 50, in order to save on transport.
 

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Will update about the comparison toward the end of the week probably.

I heard the 590AX at the dealer's shop last week with different speakers (livingvoice I think), and it sounded little clinical to my ears, though I think it had slightly better resolution than the ams35. The unit however was quite new and did not complete its full break in period. I think I prefer the warmer sound of the ams with the focals, which are very resolving speakers.. the match of the focals with the ams is so good, I can not let it go :-(

Will keep you posted.

-mute
 

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The dealer does not carry the accuphase in his store, however the Luxman dealer (different dude) will pay me a visit during the week, so probably I will be able to compare the two amps side by side.

For now the AMS35 is still at my apartment. Are you guys sure only 50 of them were ever made?

-mute

OK, look forward to your impressions.

One other thing to bare in mind re the Accuphase... supposed to be a great match with Focal, particularly the 1028.

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One other thing to bare in mind re the Accuphase... supposed to be a great match with Focal, particularly the 1028.

Mac

You're as bad as me......maybe worse! ;)

Just learning from the Master! LOL!

Seriously though, now owning the likes of Accuphase and the EMC1UP, I now know how you feel with your beliefs in the MF and Linn and just want others to share our musical enjoyment... whatever the OP does end up with, he will have a superb set up.

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Just learning from the Master! LOL!

Seriously though, now owning the likes of Accuphase and the EMC1UP, I now know how you feel with your beliefs in the MF and Linn and just want others to share our musical enjoyment... whatever the OP does end up with, he will have a superb set up.

Mac

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mute said:
The dealer does not carry the accuphase in his store, however the Luxman dealer (different dude) will pay me a visit during the week, so probably I will be able to compare the two amps side by side.

For now the AMS35 is still at my apartment. Are you guys sure only 50 of them were ever made?

-mute

AMS 35i vs 590AX is a bake off (literally!) that I'd like to hear the result of.

As for your question......I suspect not:

The original black versions had a black volume knob. I suspect what Neuphonix was told, is that they won't make them again until they can make a run of 50 (which they don't think will sell in the current climate).

Over here, I am fairly sure they will be made to order.....so I'm not sure what's going on, unless they have a different policy outside Europe - where they may want to send batches of at least 50, in order to save on transport.

Just to clarify what I was told at the time by MF. The lady I spoke to was head of international sales so this might only be their international policy not UK. However given the size of the company, I'd have to think that it is highly unlikely that they would be making one off units for their UK customers & putting their international customers on hold.

MF produce the amps in runs of 50 at a time and were not planning on doing any more runs at the time (September last year) as 50 new units represented 10 years worth of stock given the current economic conditions. This may have just been a figure (the number of years) that she plucked out of thin air to emphasise her point.

Presumably the production runs of 50 applied to both silver & black, however I didn't ask. I was looking for a black one & there were none left, silver was still available. So any discussion around the 35i no longer being available might have been slightly misleading, what I should have said was that black ones might be hard to come by. She certianly didn't say that they would NEVER be made again, just that at the moment they couldn't justify the cost given present demand. So who knows, in time there may well be another run of units, let's hope so.

The context of the discussion was that we were both seeking an immediate resolution to my dilema & a black 35i was not going to be readily supplied. It's funny though, I've always been a black only man as far as my AV/Hi-fi equipment is concerned. However I have to say that the silver kit has really grown on me, more suave, not so typical. Really helps that it is an understated matt grey type of silver & not shiny chrome.

If you're in doubt give them a call on their main switch number, then press 1 to be put through to international sales. Even though my experience was initially far from satisfactory, they came through in the end. I think my frustration came more from their distributor here in Sydney rather than MF themselves.

Mute, I would say go for it, the 35i is a fantastic mtach with Focal, the warmth balances the forward sound nicely IMO. Once you have it in place you'll never look back.

One thing I have found over Summer down here is that the heat produced is astounding, really looking forward to Winter! This is a product definitely engineered by pommies who are used to, how shall I say it, less than perfect weather?! ;)
 

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Neuphonix said:
CnoEvil said:
mute said:
The dealer does not carry the accuphase in his store, however the Luxman dealer (different dude) will pay me a visit during the week, so probably I will be able to compare the two amps side by side.

For now the AMS35 is still at my apartment. Are you guys sure only 50 of them were ever made?

-mute

AMS 35i vs 590AX is a bake off (literally!) that I'd like to hear the result of.

As for your question......I suspect not:

The original black versions had a black volume knob. I suspect what Neuphonix was told, is that they won't make them again until they can make a run of 50 (which they don't think will sell in the current climate).

Over here, I am fairly sure they will be made to order.....so I'm not sure what's going on, unless they have a different policy outside Europe - where they may want to send batches of at least 50, in order to save on transport.

Just to clarify what I was told at the time by MF. The lady I spoke to was head of international sales so this might only be their international policy not UK. However given the size of the company, I'd have to think that it is highly unlikely that they would be making one off units for their UK customers & putting their international customers on hold.

MF produce the amps in runs of 50 at a time and were not planning on doing any more runs at the time (September last year) as 50 new units represented 10 years worth of stock given the current economic conditions. This may have just been a figure (the number of years) that she plucked out of thin air to emphasise her point.

Presumably the production runs of 50 applied to both silver & black, however I didn't ask. I was looking for a black one & there were none left, silver was still available. So any discussion around the 35i no longer being available might have been slightly misleading, what I should have said was that black ones might be hard to come by. She certianly didn't say that they would NEVER be made again, just that at the moment they couldn't justify the cost given present demand. So who knows, in time there may well be another run of units, let's hope so.

The context of the discussion was that we were both seeking an immediate resolution to my dilema & a black 35i was not going to be readily supplied. It's funny though, I've always been a black only man as far as my AV/Hi-fi equipment is concerned. However I have to say that the silver kit has really grown on me, more suave, not so typical. Really helps that it is an understated matt grey type of silver & not shiny chrome.

If you're in doubt give them a call on their main switch number, then press 1 to be put through to international sales. Even though my experience was initially far from satisfactory, they came through in the end. I think my frustration came more from their distributor here in Sydney rather than MF themselves.

Mute, I would say go for it, the 35i is a fantastic mtach with Focal, the warmth balances the forward sound nicely IMO. Once you have it in place you'll never look back.

One thing I have found over Summer down here is that the heat produced is astounding, really looking forward to Winter! This is a product definitely engineered by pommies who are used to, how shall I say it, less than perfect weather?! ;)

Very Subtly put Neuphonix lol!... blooming freezing here in blighty and it's supposed to be British Summer time now!

I think Mute has had the AMS on home demo for a few days, so hopefully he knows by now how hot the AMS does get... way hotter than my Sugden even! I did hear, don't know how true it is, Accuphase Class A don't amit such great amounts of heat.

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Hi Guys

Thanks for the info. Indeed I have the ams for a couple of days. For now I compared it with the m6i, and actually realized how good the m6i is... great dynamics, bass controll and it sounds very realistic.

But with the focals, the ams really shines. I do not think I will be able to return it... do not feel like checking the Luxman at all... do not care about the heat that much... if I can get a good price, I will take it.

-mute
 

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Hi Guys

Thanks for the info. Indeed I have the ams for a couple of days. For now I compared it with the m6i, and actually realized how good the m6i is... great dynamics, bass controll and it sounds very realistic.

But with the focals, the ams really shines. I do not think I will be able to return it... do not feel like checking the Luxman at all... do not care about the heat that much... if I can get a good price, I will take it.

-mute

OK, excellent! Like I say, you would've had a superb set up with whichever of the amps mentioned paired with the Focals.

As a matter of interest, what source do you use?

Mac
 

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