I do like the look of those Luxman integrateds. Often toyed with the idea of bringing one in as even after shipping and duties they're cheaper than the Sugdens and are supposed to have more of an accurate sound.
JMac said:
Further back in this thread, Mute did a direct comparison between Luxman 590 AX and AMS35i. His findings are in Post No. 230 here: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/musical-fidelity-ams-35i-thread?page=15
SteveR750
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CnoEvil said:
And is massively over priced in my opinion. Even had I the full asking price of £8k there are much better value options out there. It wasn't noticeably better than the significantly cheaper SAI250 when I heard it driving some ProAcs
Cno, you know the solution to prevent it getting hot, just turn the volume up, and then some!
Macspur
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JMac said:
When I still had the Masterclass I did home demo the AMS35i and whilst sonically not a massive difference, it was certainly more powerful. However, esthetically I prefer the Sugden and for sucha quality amp, quite reasonably priced.
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iceman16
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I was listening again to Paul Simon (songbook) album. As PS can reach me and lend me a hand! No f..k gimmick here.. I just want to hug invisible..
iceman16
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Pure Class A depth is so remarkable as in natural depth which could'nt find in in many. Yes there are some which are clean, detailed I mean soo clean.. but lack the emotion and fluidity..
SteveR750 said:
Sometimes a quick listen tells you all you need to know about a product....and sometimes it doesn't.
I haven't heard this new amp, but I suspect that to see what it can really do, you would need to have it in a pretty hi-end system eg. Klimax DS + Nu-Vista + Kef Blades.
Infiniteloop
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SteveR750
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CnoEvil said:
Agreed the proacs are not the most difficult or revealing speaker, and the room was small with terrible acoustics. It's got some big transformers in it!
iceman16
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Hi Cno..I've just bought a Synergistic research SR20 fuses 13a to try with my Chord powerchord connected to the AMS. I think its one of the best low cost upgrade I've made. Listened to very familiar cd tracks and I can't believe for a small outlay it does really improved the sound coming from the speakers! It just sounds more of everything( better) the stock fuse and recently HiFi tuning gold fuse. I also stuck one in my cdp and again I would say it gets much even better..I have tried the HiFi tuning supreme in my cdp but I did'nt like it, sounds too bright and harsh in the HF so Ive sold them. Prior to the SR20 are the AMR gold fuses which sound more relaxed, laid back and not as detailed as the others I tried. The SR20 have a 30 days money back return but I'll be keeping them! I paid £27 each plus delivery which rrp is £39.95. Other may say placebo or expectation bias but I don't care. I really like them and I'll be ordering for more
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iceman16
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That is remarkably generous of you and I may well take you up on your offer at a later date.iceman16 said:
Cheers my friend.
iceman16
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CnoEvil said:
I may be not as vocal as you due to my language .but our ears dont differ.in some ways.. others dont
Hi Guys, this is my first post here, but I've been reading your wise assessments for a while here. I've been researching about systems since I am trying to build one from scratch (it will be my first one). It caught my attention that you are all happy users of the AMS35i. I've been offered this amplifier but since it carries some very peculiar carachteristics (heat, size, consumption) I've been trying to gather as much information as I can before taking the plunge. I will probably get a KEF Reference 1 and my vendor told me that with that speaker I should get at least a Class AB, if not an A and he offered me the AMS35i. Since I knew nothing about amp classes I've been researching about it a lot and have been quite intrigued about what people say about the AMS35i, I've only heard marvelous things in terms of sounds, including the assesments from fellow reviewers CnoEvil and iceman. What do you think people, after a few years, now in 2015/2016 would you buy that amp again? or would you opt for a newer technology. Right now I won't be able to get a Devialet, so I must choose a simpler tech so to say. My other choices are Parasound or other Musical Fidelity amps. Just as a side info, my room is an L, the short part of the L is the kitchen and the long part measures 8 x 4 meters, that's where I want to put my system; and I live in South America where it's very hot, dont know if that's an issue with that amp. As a side question, do you guys think the Ref 1 could be a bit overwhelming on that 32 m^2 room? I will really appreciate your feedback on this to see if I'm worthy of belonging to the prestigious AMS35 club. Cheers,
Policarpus
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Hi there and welcome to the forum.
Hear are my initial thoughts.
- This amp sounds "right"....it's so natural that you stop trying to analyse what you are hearing. It is this characteristic that has people like myself and Iceman overlooking its weaknesses (heat, weight, power consumption and ultimate power).
- It has a very powerful, dynamic sound...but has its limits. It likes speakers with high Sensitivity and plummeting Impedance.
- You would certainly need to try it with the Ref 1s, as their low Sensitivity could be a problem, especially if you like to turn the wick up.
- The Ref 1s sound huge (for a Standmount) and would need to be tried in your room.
- If you have access to Arcam, you should try the A49, which has many of the traits of the 35i.
- The MF Primo + AMS 50 would do the job, but is a fair bit more expensive...and like the 35i, is discontinued.
- If in budget, you should try the MF Nu Vista 800, which is the "replacement" for the 35i and should sound stunning.
Hear are my initial thoughts.
- This amp sounds "right"....it's so natural that you stop trying to analyse what you are hearing. It is this characteristic that has people like myself and Iceman overlooking its weaknesses (heat, weight, power consumption and ultimate power).
- It has a very powerful, dynamic sound...but has its limits. It likes speakers with high Sensitivity and plummeting Impedance.
- You would certainly need to try it with the Ref 1s, as their low Sensitivity could be a problem, especially if you like to turn the wick up.
- The Ref 1s sound huge (for a Standmount) and would need to be tried in your room.
- If you have access to Arcam, you should try the A49, which has many of the traits of the 35i.
- The MF Primo + AMS 50 would do the job, but is a fair bit more expensive...and like the 35i, is discontinued.
- If in budget, you should try the MF Nu Vista 800, which is the "replacement" for the 35i and should sound stunning.
matt49
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The AMS35i's remote control is a nightmare. When I trialled it, I found it was either too loud or too quiet.
very nice amp though. *dirol*
very nice amp though. *dirol*
"If in budget, you should try the MF Nu Vista 800, which is the "replacement" for the 35i and should sound stunning."
It does.... And you should get a healthy discount.
It does.... And you should get a healthy discount.
It is...and if you have a Sub connected to the Pre-Out, it will send a thump through it when switched on/off (so Sub needs to be on standby, while switching). I still wouldn't swap it for a "sensible" Amp, though...matt49 said:
iceman16
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There's something about the AMS 35i sound that I could'nt hear with other amps I've tried regardless of power output and price. These are some combinations of great dynamics, detail without being harsh but smooth and silky like presentation. And yes it's like a valve amp with ss power
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