The Dynavector 10X5 is in

[jcarruthers]

Steve,

I'm using the Rega arc protractor from Vinyl Engine — three point alignment makes it much easier — I think.

Maybe I mean that it's more sensitive to dust — I brush off all the records I put on — but on some by the time it's in the middle of the record it's picked up a lot of dust and causes a lot of noise.

 

[stevebrock]

I get that on some records too, was begining to worry it was vinyl shavings, but the fluff is white, me thinks its resiude from cleaning!

I used the Rega protractor that comes with the RP6, however Moorgate fitted this one - looks okay to me!

 

[floyd droid]

Probably an optical illusion but that cart dosnt look seated flush on the headshell . Nice pube byraway.

 

[jcarruthers]

Probably an optical illusion but that cart dosnt look seated flush on the headshell . Nice pube byraway.

Ha! Didn't spot the eyebrow hair

The cart is totally flush for sure

 

[stevebrock]

I also noticed the use of washers with the bolts, I couldn't get the washers to seat properly so didnt use them, my cart is flush to the headshell

 

[floyd droid]

Not so sure they are washers Steve , looks like how the bolt is finished to me. Anyhoo whats puzzling me is the 'Quieter' bit from a few posts ago.

 

[jcarruthers]

Nope — no washers.

As for the quieter bit — I'm not sure I trust my ears all the time

 

[floyd droid]

James , I take it you started from scratch after you fitted the shim ?. Out of interest is the cart sitting nose down a tad or bum down or hey even dead parallel.

 

[stevebrock]

My arm/cart is very very slightly nose down

 

[floyd droid]

Tis a pity that at the min you only have the shim Steve , instead of one of those mich or isokinetic jobbies so as to have a play about. But nah ye got a new amp instead .

 

[jcarruthers]

James , I take it you started from scratch after you fitted the shim ?. Out of interest is the cart sitting nose down a tad or bum down or hey even dead parallel.

Yup all redone after the shim install — I went for the 2mm solid metal sort as I figured it should be the most stable and solid.

It seems to be "bum down" — it slopes down towards the back. It's very close to being level though. Might get one of those little bubble levels.

 

[CJSF]

My arm/cart is very very slightly nose down

I would be concerned at 'nose down' . . . usualy better level or a tad down at the back? Not the same cartridge or arm, but I have done a 'lot' of VTA adjustments recently, especialy in the past few days, half a millimeter is audible but not visable . . . thats in my system, I find 1mm is just perceptable with the eye and certainly an audable change can be herad, particularly in the higer frequancies and voice sabiliance.

All the adjustment in the world wont help if the VTA is not right? Sure it works but with out comparisons, (alternative shims hights) how are you going to know what is right? ISOkonetik do a 1 and 2mm spacer kit. I have found a little bit of jugling with the stylus downforce can help too, but, you must have a digital stylus guage to make any sence of such fine adjustments.

CJSF

 

[stevebrock]

Well I have a 2mm spacer on the arm - mmm maybe time to invest in one of the Michell adjutable ones then!

In actual fact that was on my 2nds RP6 - Got a new RP6 here, just checked......voila - its perfectly level!

Panic over!

 

[floyd droid]

While yer at it get one of they little headshell bubbles. You can then use dead level as a reference point , you need to start from somewhere** Steve, otherwise you have no start point to back track to. Its all worth the faff * , you may well find a setting you prefer to whats coming out of yer speeks at the min.

* Some peeps find it fun , dont we CJ.

** As CJ pointed out.

 

[stevebrock]

awww more expense FFS

 

[floyd droid]

Lol. The bubbles aint expensive , as ever with hifi a ruddy rip off , but usefull.

 

[stevebrock]

would rather buy viny!

Having a break and watxhing footie - Leicester my team - might have a play with tracking weight later

 

[jcarruthers]

I also found another useful thing — in addition to using the camera to get a good view of alignment.

The camera also shoots video — simply set the fps to match your mains frequency (as per on the strobe disc of your choice) — so 25fps for 50Hz and 30fps for 60Hz — and there you have a perfect "strobe light".

My camera is stuck at 30fps as it's not really designed for video — so I had to use the 60Hz strobe disc.

My RP6 is ever so slightly fast by a very very tiny amount.

 

[floyd droid]

Thats pretty much the case with all new rubber band TTs. They run a tad fast as after a while the belt gives a bit and with any luck all will be good. Tbh James tis highly unlikely you will notice the difference if its only running a little fast compared to spot on.

 

[jcarruthers]

Main thing I think is that it looks fairly consistent — it wasn't wobbling around or anything — I am totally sure I will not notice.

Randomly found a little bubble!

http://postimg.org/image/72ens1u8n/

The bubble is exactly off as much as the plinth is — so will check that out!

 

[stevebrock]

Just checked my plinth - bang on level!

I may just order one of these little bubble level gauges.

 

[CJSF]

Main thing I think is that it looks fairly consistent — it wasn't wobbling around or anything — I am totally sure I will not notice.

Randomly found a little bubble!

http://postimg.org/image/72ens1u8n/

The bubble is exactly off as much as the plinth is — so will check that out!

Mmm :? One is assuming you have set the 'TT/stand/shelf' spot on level? Otherwise the bubble will show that :doh: . . . not to mention any warp in the record, be carfull which one you choose, what thickness is the vinyle? Sorry I'm sceptical of such items, its a starting point. However, when you get to this point, its your ears that will tell you what is right . . . but you have to have a point of comparison for all the adjustments you make, the final comparison is 'what you hear', trust your ears.

CJSF

 

[Anonymous]

Main thing I think is that it looks fairly consistent — it wasn't wobbling around or anything — I am totally sure I will not notice.

Randomly found a little bubble!

http://postimg.org/image/72ens1u8n/

The bubble is exactly off as much as the plinth is — so will check that out!

Mmm :? One is assuming you have set the 'TT/stand/shelf' spot on level? Otherwise the bubble will show that :doh: . . . not to mention any warp in the record, be carfull which one you choose, what thickness is the vinyle? Sorry I'm sceptical of such items, its a starting point. However, when you get to this point, its your ears that will tell you what is right . . . but you have to have a point of comparison for all the adjustments you make, the final comparison is 'what you hear', trust your ears.

CJSF

Glad to see you back CJ, I've found your advice very good in the past.

And I wasn't a beleiver in faffing about but am now

 

[CJSF]

Just checked my plinth - bang on level!

I may just order one of these little bubble level gauges.

When I check mine for level, I check the shelf, then the TT plinth and finaly the platter, you be suprised, they can differ, check 4 points . . . I also spin the platter and check it at 3 or 4 points arounf the 12" . . . I know its totaly OTT, but if a job is worth doing . . . etc. I need to be extra critical becaus of the split platter that I now use, however I have experianced a diferance in plinth to platter level, tiny, yes, but these round bubble levels show fractions of an inch. The level I use is also a spot on, machined base from Michell enginering, some of the plastic ones might not be so good?????

CJSF

 

[jcarruthers]

Main thing I think is that it looks fairly consistent — it wasn't wobbling around or anything — I am totally sure I will not notice.

Randomly found a little bubble!

http://postimg.org/image/72ens1u8n/

The bubble is exactly off as much as the plinth is — so will check that out!

Mmm :? One is assuming you have set the 'TT/stand/shelf' spot on level? Otherwise the bubble will show that :doh: . . . not to mention any warp in the record, be carfull which one you choose, what thickness is the vinyle? Sorry I'm sceptical of such items, its a starting point. However, when you get to this point, its your ears that will tell you what is right . . . but you have to have a point of comparison for all the adjustments you make, the final comparison is 'what you hear', trust your ears.

CJSF

I thought it was — but it wasn't.

Also have a digital angle gauge to check and it was off my 1.7 degrees front to back and 1 degree left to right.

EDIT — checked the plinth and platter and they only differ from each other by 0.1 degrees