Speaker cable

[ninanina]

Perhaps in your case with Naim equipment but you are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

Thanks Al ears

I’m convinced that NACA5 cable goes very well with my XS3 amplifier and out to my ATC’s

However if I were to rebuild a SET amplifier based system again, with very sensitive speakers, I would choose TQ Ultra Black cable once again

 

[davidf]

Maybe because some science are solved problems?
There´s no need to keep re-inventing the wheel.

We never know if it's solved until we find out it is unsolved.

 

[davidf]

Precisely!

Try A. Try B. Try C. Try D. Can I got back to B please? Now D? Now B? Now back to B again? Now C?

Just doesn't work. I've seen way too many people end up confused because they lose track of what they've listened to. Just compare two. Back and forth as much as you like, there's only two. Then try a different two. Or a 'winner stays on' format. Doesn't matter. Just two at a time.

 

[ninanina]

Try A. Try B. Try C. Try D. Can I got back to B please? Now D? Now B? Now back to B again? Now C?

Just doesn't work. I've seen way too many people end up confused because they lose track of what they've listened to. Just compare two. Back and forth as much as you like, there's only two. Then try a different two. Or a 'winner stays on' format. Doesn't matter. Just two at a time.

Absolutely agree

I don’t think listening to more than two choices of anything Hifi related is a good thing..whether that’s amplifiers, cd players etc etc or indeed interconnect cables or speaker cables as it just gets too confusing

 

[GroeneLeeuw]

We never know if it's solved until we find out it is unsolved.

Sure, sure, whatever you say.

 

[ninanina]

Sure, sure, whatever you say.

If you want the best sounding speaker cable then it’s definitely TQ Ultra Black (original stuff)

 

[Al ears]

If you want the best sounding speaker cable then it’s definitely TQ Ultra Black (original stuff)

In your opinion. It's great if it suits you, but like everything not necessarily so for everyone. Nor are Naim amplifiers .... 🙂

 

[GroeneLeeuw]

If you want the best sounding speaker cable then it’s definitely TQ Ultra Black (original stuff)

Thank you for the suggestion, but I´m sorted.
Been sorted for many years already.

 

[GroeneLeeuw]

Now that I´m here, let me add, as reaction to the YT clip posted earlier:
If a cable changes the sound (let me be positive and say it improves the sound), your hardware (amp, speakers, cd-player, headphones) are basically flawed products. There´s something wrong with them.

 

[woodbar]

Now that I´m here, let me add, as reaction to the YT clip posted earlier:
If a cable changes the sound (let me be positive and say it improves the sound), your hardware (amp, speakers, cd-player, headphones) are basically flawed products. There´s something wrong with them.

I sort of agree but is it not true to say that all of those products you listed are flawed in some way else we would all have perfect products?

This would mean that by combining two or more such non-perfect products would affect the sound in either an advantageous way or the opposite of course. For example I understand that certain Naim amps have a particular configuration that requires the right sort of speaker cables?

 

[ninanina]

I sort of agree but is it not true to say that all of those products you listed are flawed in some way else we would all have perfect products?

This would mean that by combining two or more such non-perfect products would affect the sound in either an advantageous way or the opposite of course. For example I understand that certain Naim amps have a particular configuration that requires the right sort of speaker cables?

Well yes I think my Naim amplifier sounds best with Naim NACA5 speaker cable out to my ATC speakers

I also believe that my Naim amplifier quite likes the original Naim RCA to DIN cable I’m using between the streamer and amplifier

I have other cables that I could use for interconnects and speaker cables but have found that the Naim cables work better in my system

 

[Jasonovich]

For example I understand that certain Naim amps have a particular configuration that requires the right sort of speaker cables?

Yes cables can make a difference! 😄

 

[GroeneLeeuw]

Yes cables can make a difference! 😄

With Naim (at least the amps from many decades ago)?
Yes, apparently.
But don´t blame or glorify the cables for it.

 

[Dave_]

For example I understand that certain Naim amps have a particular configuration that requires the right sort of speaker cables?

Yes, Naim (along with Linn*) are at the forefront of British audiophoolery, and have been for decades with their proprietary connections and stacks of pointless boxes...


*Who apparently can't even design equipment to operate optimally without £1.4k power, supply "upgrades"

 

[ToppingSMSL]

Yep. Silver is better conductor but it obviously tarnishes so not good

Order of conductivity from best to worst: Silver, Copper, Gold, Aluminium, Tungsten, Rhodium

Silver tarnishes, but silver oxide is interesting. It is unstable at high temperatures, so when electricity arcs across a connection the silver oxide can actually turn back into metallic silver, releasing oxygen gas (above 280oC)

Rhodium isnt that great a conductor but it is hard (much harder than gold or silver) and corrosion resistant (which means low contact resistance). Its hardness makes it very resistant to wear so it's good in high use situations. With zero oxidation.

 

[Jasonovich]

With Naim (at least the amps from many decades ago)?
Yes, apparently.
But don´t blame or glorify the cables for it.

Just to extend on this, as per the beacon of everything science, an extraction from ASR forum.

It's about resistance and capacitance - see ASR below.

1. If speaker cable resistance is not low enough, power output can be reduced and frequency response may be shaped by speaker impedance.
2. If speaker wire capacitance is too high, some less-common amplifier designs (NAIM?) can react adversely, adding distortion and, possibly, damaging the amplifier.