Vladimir said:
Ok fair enough. Two votes for CM1.
Anyone else who would like to vote based on your listening test? Add R300 if you prefer that.
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Ok fair enough. Two votes for CM1.
Anyone else who would like to vote based on your listening test? Add R300 if you prefer that.
This is the highest reply thread on the Hi-Fi forum. Some people just can't move on. It's terrible.
kingsap said:
So true and so strange. I listened to LS50s a few times and left them. Then one day I was at a different dealer and listened to them in a different setup. They were heavenly, better than anything I had heard before and bought then on the spot.
And since then I am trying to create that magic...looking to see if that was due to amplifier, room acoustics or something else ....
Vladimir said:
Not terrible. It is wonderful. It is an enigma. Simple things have simple answers. But this LS50 is something else.
@Vlad....
Here is another quote from Ameesh....
Hi
This is the first time I am buying a pair of speakers without actually demoing.
Here is another quote from Ameesh....
Hi
This is the first time I am buying a pair of speakers without actually demoing.
900 posts with theories, measurements examined, listeners sharing experiences, we even had the KEF head of acoustics with a PhD in loudspeaker acoustics, yet a 4" 2-way shall remain a mystery to all. *biggrin*
This is the day speakers beat cables and vinyl vs cd debates on an audiophile forum. Something indeed very special.
What's next? Buy a pair of KEF LS50s and a Rega Brio-R, leave them packed, put all magazines and brochures you can find refering to them, put those in an airtight zip bag and put everything in a time box. Open in 15 years and be happy with the amazing classics everyone talks about again like 15 years ago. I may even bid for yours on ebay thinking, oh man I always wanted one. *crazy*
This is the day speakers beat cables and vinyl vs cd debates on an audiophile forum. Something indeed very special.
What's next? Buy a pair of KEF LS50s and a Rega Brio-R, leave them packed, put all magazines and brochures you can find refering to them, put those in an airtight zip bag and put everything in a time box. Open in 15 years and be happy with the amazing classics everyone talks about again like 15 years ago. I may even bid for yours on ebay thinking, oh man I always wanted one. *crazy*
shkumar4963 said:
That's your typical PMC customer. *biggrin* Everyone tells you B&W bad, PMC good, what's there to think or audition? *pardon* Thank goodness PMC makes bloody good speakers.
Vladimir said:
Now I'm confused. I like many B&W and PMC speakers, is there someone I can talk to who will absolve me of this sin or at least set me straight?
I also like the CM1s2 on the end of Marantz's M-CR610 (much as I liked the CM1 with the M-CR603) despite the low power of the all in one. Haven't heard the CM1 and LS50 in close enough proximity to say which I prefer, although I think I'd take my DB1i over the CM1.
Electro
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Vladimir said:
There is some truth in this *smile*
But I would buy a pair of B&W Nautilus snail speakers without listening to them in a split second without a second thought and I really don't care what they sound like ,the only trouble is I will never be able to afford a pair or the two pairs of Nemo's to drive them *sad* .
This my contribution to boost the thread to the 1000 mark *biggrin*
Freddy58
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B&W, Spendor, Dali etc. are mostly conventional loudspeaker designs. This is where entering the KEF LS50 or PMC DB1i territory the bored audiophile mind gets all perky and its curriosity and sence of wonder are rejuvenated.
ID. said:
So now there are two and a half votes for CM1. Just because he did not compare them against LS50 in close proxomity.
steve_1979
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Freddy58 said:
This thread is fast approaching 1000 posts and we still aren't sure yet. *unknw*
Freddy58 said:
Probably too busy swapping cables and amps to get some usable bass out of the LS50s.
Freddy58
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Vladimir said:
Now let's make sure DB1I are priced same as LS50 (about £800).
I suspect that DB1I are much higher priced and should not be a candidate.
Gazzip
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kingsap said:
Possibly the manufacturers' chosen playlists as well? No surprise how much forethought goes in to what is played at HiFi shows in order to showcase a given product. It is usually the antithesis of what I would play to test a pair of loudspeakers during an audition, which would include complex tracks to trip them up, expose their frailty if they have one. How many times have you heard London Grammar, Diana Krall, Daft Punk or Katie Melua played at shows during demos? Many, many times. Not because they challenge the HiFi components through which they play but because they are extremely well recorded and produced and will flatter pretty much any system/component however poor.
Freddy58
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Gazzip
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shkumar4963 said:
Possibly the dealer's chosen playlists as well? No surprise how much forethought goes in to what is played at HiFi shops in order to showcase a given product. It is usually the antithesis of what I would play to test a pair of loudspeakers during an audition, which would include complex tracks to trip them up, expose their frailty if they have one. How many times have you heard London Grammar, Diana Krall, Daft Punk or Katie Melua played by HiFi dealers during demos? Many, many times. Not because they challenge the HiFi components through which they play but because they are extremely well recorded and produced and will flatter pretty much any system/component however poor.
Electro
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Vladimir said:
This is fantastic ,
I have bought two of his Cd's since you first brought him to my attention *good*
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