Isolatton Products - what exists?

[pauln]

of course you can trust your ears and eyes, what a mad statement to make!

Have a look at hallucination and illusion - Wikipedia, an encyclopedia, whatever media.

 

[ellisdj]

How many more times - we keep going in circles - either we meet up and you come here or you dont - drop it if your not coming

As I said before I don't live in the country. You're the one making the claims that x,y and z make a difference and I've given you a very easy 5 minute way to test it, yet you point blanky refuse and also pre-emptively said that even if it did prove you were wrong it wouldn't change your mind. Why should I drop it? You are the one making the outragous claims which you refuse to back up, prove or even believe and yet you can't even get your head around that seemingly. So, if you've going to come on here and "advise" people, you can be damned sure that other people will advise against your advice given the crap you're spewing. We've given you the way you can prove us all wrong without anybody having to come to your house, yet you persistantly refuse which is leading me to believe you're either trolling, having a laugh, or really are in your own little world.

If you want us to drop it, run the audio diff test and post the results. Stop asking people round like some oddball and put your money where your mouth is, or take your own advice and drop it yourself.

Why does that make me an oddball to try and share an interest - an offering to demo my system to like minded people.

Its a shame for you as wont get to hear it - others on here may do though and they can feedback what they think.

Until then you will have to wait.

I also have just re-read - I havent advised anybody on anything - I asked for advice or different isolation products available and then things escalated. I am happy doing what I am doing and I am happy to show people what I am doing and why.

Nowhere can you walk into a store and hear an audio pc setup like I have. You can hear any computer feed digital anytime, i promise this is different.

I will look into the test you have suggested when I have a minute, I have to work as well

- to Coventer you didnt asnwer my last question - is your system still setup as it is in your photo on page 1?

 

[Covenanter]

How many more times - we keep going in circles - either we meet up and you come here or you dont - drop it if your not coming

As I said before I don't live in the country. You're the one making the claims that x,y and z make a difference and I've given you a very easy 5 minute way to test it, yet you point blanky refuse and also pre-emptively said that even if it did prove you were wrong it wouldn't change your mind. Why should I drop it? You are the one making the outragous claims which you refuse to back up, prove or even believe and yet you can't even get your head around that seemingly. So, if you've going to come on here and "advise" people, you can be damned sure that other people will advise against your advice given the crap you're spewing. We've given you the way you can prove us all wrong without anybody having to come to your house, yet you persistantly refuse which is leading me to believe you're either trolling, having a laugh, or really are in your own little world.

If you want us to drop it, run the audio diff test and post the results. Stop asking people round like some oddball and put your money where your mouth is, or take your own advice and drop it yourself.

Why does that make me an oddball to try and share an interest - an offering to demo my system to like minded people.

Its a shame for you as wont get to hear it - others on here may do though and they can feedback what they think.

Until then you will have to wait.

I also have just re-read - I havent advised anybody on anything - I asked for advice or different isolation products available and then things escalated. I am happy doing what I am doing and I am happy to show people what I am doing and why.

Nowhere can you walk into a store and hear an audio pc setup like I have. You can hear any computer feed digital anytime, i promise this is different.

I will look into the test you have suggested when I have a minute, I have to work as well

- to Coventer you didnt asnwer my last question - is your system still setup as it is in your photo on page 1?

I didn't see the question. Look at: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/an-audition

Chris

 

[ReValveiT]

Surprised to have got through this whole thead without "and lossless files aren't really lossless" being mentioned.

T'would top the thread off nicely me thinks.

 

[ellisdj]

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I didn't see the question. Look at: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/an-audition

Chris

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You have some interesting music on there I would lke to try -
Bellini: I Capuleti e i Montecchi there seems to eb an old version and a modern version - which one?

 

[Covenanter]

I didn't see the question. Look at: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/an-audition

Chris

[/quote]

You have some interesting music on there I would lke to try -
Bellini: I Capuleti e i Montecchi there seems to eb an old version and a modern version - which one?
[/quote]

There are a number of versions but IMO the standout one is the Netrebko, Garancha, Calleja on DG. This is the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bellini-Capuleti-Montecchi-Anna-Netrebko/dp/B001NPUGWS/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1399638263&sr=1-1&keywords=bellini+capuleti

Chris

 

[ellisdj]

The most expensive one lol

On its way - not really got much opera little bit Katherine Jenkins that I actually like a lot.

Good sounding discs - different to mainstream - one the discs is very choir but has some good sounding songs

 

[Vladimir]

Ellis have you seen this image before? Would you believe it, the square marked A and the square marked B are of the same colour?

 

[ellisdj]

There is a few of those about and I have seen that one before..... and the point is?

Thats a diffcult one on a tft led monitor that has colour variance depending on where you look at it ....

 

[Vladimir]

It's pointless.

 

[ellisdj]

You must be bored - you need a more involving job

Or involving system - time to upgrade - while you are Munich pop in and see the JPlay boys.

I will tell them to expect you and how you slagged them off for being a hoax

 

[Vladimir]

Designing label for a juice company used to be exciting when I was young and full of natural viagra. I didn't need JPlay to get a raise from my music. I was happy with my Sony discman, Technics SL-1200 MkII, Numark mixer, Cerwin-Vega AT-12, Kenwood KA-9X and Yamaha CDX-393.

Now I care about midrange coloration... bah... :boohoo:

 

[hifikrazy]

USD16,900 for this ugly looking toaster oven thing...

http://stereotimes.com/post/high-fidelity-cable-magnetic-wave-guide-ac-conditioner/

 

[hifikrazy]

Great one CnoEvil :rofl:

And how true that is...

 

[Vladimir]

Red light Cno.

 

[CnoEvil]

Red light Cno.

It wouldn't be my first; but it's by far the classiest. :bounce:

 

[Vladimir]

Rocking write-up, I must admit! :beer:

 

[CnoEvil]

Rocking write-up, I must admit! :beer:

:cheers:

 

[hifikrazy]

Rocking write-up, I must admit! :beer:

Yup, I've bookmarked it for future plagiarism.... I mean reference :shhh:

 

[ellisdj]

If you have just made that all up today or doesnt matter when - fair play!!

Thats funny and clever..... shame its all snake oil and not a word of it can be trusted

There is also no cure for what I have got - doomed soul

 

[CnoEvil]

Rocking write-up, I must admit! :beer:

Yup, I've bookmarked it for future plagiarism.... I mean reference :shhh:

Blimey!

I was being serious, I'll have you know!

 

[Vladimir]

If you have just made that all up today or doesnt matter when - fair play!!

Thats funny and clever..... shame its all snake oil and not a word of it can be trusted

There is also no cure for what I have got - doomed soul

More like snake vinegar! It penetrated deep through my objectivist soul (if I had one).

 

[CnoEvil]

If you have just made that all up today .....

....fraid so. It came to me while cutting the grass, which I find to be a very thought provoking activity.

 

[CnoEvil]

Ellis, my good man, I think you need re-educating.

How very dare you come on here with your unapproved questions, unsolicited opinions and offers of help. It's a hifi forum for goodness sake, so show some decorum.

Now, contrary to popular belief, Hi-Fi forums are not the friendly cyber spaces, where enthusiasts come together in order to partake in interesting, fruitful and respectful debate......where's the fun in that?

There are a few simple rules, which if followed, will greatly help with the whole experience:

1. If you want to know whether your questions or opinions are appropriate, you need to submit them to the Science Junta for approval, and they will (unequivocally) give you a red or green light.

2. Contrary to what logic might suggest, when it comes to evaluating accessories, do not listen for yourself, but ask the advice of someone who hasn't listened to it, and they will tell you if it's worth hearing.

3. In order to get your findings taken seriously, you need to (a) invest in a technical lab, with all manner of oscilloscopes and sciencey gubbins (b) do an electronics degree, so that you can use your new equipment (c) go into partnership with a University Research Department, who will conduct and verify proper ABX, Blind and Double Blind tests, ensuring correct protocol is followed.....strictly no spouses or partners allowed.

4. Ignore all the gullible nutters who populate the forum, whose only goal is to brainwash you and weaken your resolve.

5. Recognize that you may well be an Audioholic; the symptoms of which usually include:

- An insatiable desire to tinker and improve your system with Foo.

- A strong and irrational determination to believe that what you are hearing, is real.

- An unfathomable desire to share your subversive knowledge with others.

- A belief that Hifi is a subjective experience, and enjoyment matters more than measurements.

Now if you are an Audioholic, there is hope.

If caught in the early stages, the good folk of the Junta will be more than happy to straighten you out; but if you have an ingrained and long term problem, more drastic action is needed. This requires you to join the AVI forum, whose no-nonsense, Foo-busting approach, should act like a defibrillator, shocking you back to reality. Though there is the proviso that you mustn't get banned before you get cured. Don't say you haven't been warned.

Once cured, the Hifi world is now your oyster. For example, after a period of probation (usually about 18 months), if you haven't relapsed, you can apply to join the ranks of the Science Junta. Acceptance should be seen as quite an honour, since not everyone gets in. You need to have a stout heart and a dogged persistence to fight Foo wherever you find it. Your reward is in the sense of intense satisfaction gained from the propagation of proper, unadulterated Science.

Simples.

 

[MajorFubar]

Wish I had half the money some people obviously have to throw at products and treatments that will not and cannot make any difference. Some of which go way beyond traditional 'wacky' suggestions like mains treatments and specialist audio cables, whose vaguely-tangible pseudo-science is impossible to absolutely dismiss because if you squint hard enough you can at least see the logic behind them even if you think it's all baloney.

Better still, I wish I could think of the next Big Thing that such deep-pocketed loons will all fall for. Shame I never got there with the specialist SATA cable at £200+ a shot. Working in IT (sort of), I so should have seen that coming.