Innuos Zen Mini basics

[Andrewjvt]

What puts me off innous is that it only outputs in usb and nothing else.

 

[Macspur]

What puts me off innous is that it only outputs in usb and nothing else.

Yes, I was a bit surprised at that.

Mac

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[Macspur]

I don't know much about Innuos but if it's Roon related I'll be happy to help.

Thanks for the kind offer... I've downloaded Roon now, but it's not looking promising for me... the screenreader isn't detecting anything so far. I'll have to wait for Mrs Mac to take a look.

Mac

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[Andrewjvt]

I don't know much about Innuos but if it's Roon related I'll be happy to help.

Thanks for the kind offer... I've downloaded Roon now, but it's not looking promising for me... the screenreader isn't detecting anything so far.  I'll have to wait for Mrs Mac to take a look.

Mac

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That Mrs Mac has saved you
You've got a good one

 

[Macspur]

I don't know much about Innuos but if it's Roon related I'll be happy to help.

Thanks for the kind offer... I've downloaded Roon now, but it's not looking promising for me... the screenreader isn't detecting anything so far. I'll have to wait for Mrs Mac to take a look.

Mac

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That Mrs Mac has saved you You've got a good one

Sadly, not even Mrs Mac could solve this one... Roon is just not accessible with screenreading software.

I looked on one of their forums and it's a known issue. The way in which the programme is made, much like a video game, makes it impossible to modify for screenreaders to access.

C'est la vie

Mac

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[Andrewjvt]

Maybe another solution could be the auralic products.
I much prefer them due to the fact that in some of the models they except a 2.5 inch SSD or hhd for local storage and have brilliant app and wireless connection.

 

[Macspur]

Maybe another solution could be the auralic products. I much prefer them due to the fact that in some of the models they except a 2.5 inch SSD or hhd for local storage and have brilliant app and wireless connection.

Do they have the CD ripping facility?

Mac

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[Andrewjvt]

Maybe another solution could be the auralic products. I much prefer them due to the fact that in some of the models they except a 2.5 inch SSD or hhd for local storage and have brilliant app and wireless connection.

Do they have the CD ripping facility?

Mac

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You need to rip on pc then transfer

 

[insider9]

That's a shame about Roon. I was aware of their approach but didn't realise it could be an issue for you.

Innuos with their own software could still be a decent one box solution. Can you can operate it with your screen reading software?

Also adding quality Coax is very easy nowadays. With a few manufacturers making big claims. Schiit Eitr (I believe proper pronunciation isn't "**** eater" although it could be) is one of these very interesting products.

 

[newlash09]

The innous seems to need a good deal of computer knowledge. Might not be for me anymore

 

[Macspur]

That's a shame about Roon. I was aware of their approach but didn't realise it could be an issue for you.

Innuos with their own software could still be a decent one box solution. Can you can operate it with your screen reading software?

Also adding quality Coax is very easy nowadays. With a few manufacturers making big claims. Schiit Eitr (I believe proper pronunciation isn't "**** eater" although it could be) is one of these very interesting products.

It's a good little unit and is user friendly with my software, but having listened more this morning, the sq isn't even quite as good as Spotify via the DAC, or should I say not to my taste.

I'll see if they will let me demo the more expensive models before deciding anything.

Mac

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[davidf]

There shouldn’t be any problems setting up Roon on Innuos - select Roon in the settings, open up your app or whatever you’re using to control Roon, then in the Roon set up you have the options of choosing your Roon source and a Roon end point - you just choose the Innuos as a stand alone Roon component (I’ve not currently got access to the settings, so can’t think of the exact terminology.

Give Innuos a call tomorrow, they’re very helpful.

 

[Macspur]

There shouldn’t be any problems setting up Roon on Innuos - select Roon in the settings, open up your app or whatever you’re using to control Roon, then in the Roon set up you have the options of choosing your Roon source and a Roon end point - you just choose the Innuos as a stand alone Roon component (I’ve not currently got access to the settings, so can’t think of the exact terminology.

Give Innuos a call tomorrow, they’re very helpful.

Normally, you're right David, but when the user is blind like myself, it's impossible, even with my specialist software.

It has already been brought to Innuos's attention, but it doesn't look like the programme can be modified in order for screenreaders to access it.

Mac

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[Electro]

That's a shame about Roon. I was aware of their approach but didn't realise it could be an issue for you.

Innuos with their own software could still be a decent one box solution. Can you can operate it with your screen reading software?

Also adding quality Coax is very easy nowadays. With a few manufacturers making big claims. Schiit Eitr (I believe proper pronunciation isn't "**** eater" although it could be) is one of these very interesting products.

It's a good little unit and is user friendly with my software, but having listened more this morning, the sq isn't even quite as good as Spotify via the DAC, or should I say not to my taste.

I'll see if they will let me demo the more expensive models before deciding anything.

Mac

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Mac,

I am reading you thoughts and experiences of the Innuos with great interest as I am thinking of taking a similar path to yourself with the purchase of one of the Innuos models or the new Electrocompaniet ECM1 streamer / Dac.

I am a little surprised that the sound quality is not better that spotify but then I supose spotify can sound very good indeed if put through a good dac .

I am looking at the Zenith mk 2 STD at £2299 or the new Electro ECM1 at £2999 , the Zenith has a disc drive but no built in dac and the Electro has no disc drive but has the latest top class ECD 2 Dac built into it that costs £2000 on its own, I would buy a cheap laptop with a high speed drive to rip music to the ECM 1's built in storage of either a 2.5 or 3.5 drive in a choice of memory sizes, it also does Roon apparently.

I will be interested to see what you think of the sound quality of the more expensive Innuos models and how they compare to your EMC1 UP Cd player.

 

[Macspur]

That's a shame about Roon. I was aware of their approach but didn't realise it could be an issue for you.

Innuos with their own software could still be a decent one box solution. Can you can operate it with your screen reading software?

Also adding quality Coax is very easy nowadays. With a few manufacturers making big claims. Schiit Eitr (I believe proper pronunciation isn't "**** eater" although it could be) is one of these very interesting products.

It's a good little unit and is user friendly with my software, but having listened more this morning, the sq isn't even quite as good as Spotify via the DAC, or should I say not to my taste.

I'll see if they will let me demo the more expensive models before deciding anything.

Mac

www.realmusicnet.wordpress.com

Mac,

I am reading you thoughts and experiences of the Innuos with great interest as I am thinking of taking a similar path to yourself with the purchase of one of the Innuos models or the new Electrocompaniet ECM1 streamer / Dac.

I am a little surprised that the sound quality is not better that spotify but then I supose spotify can sound very good indeed if put through a good dac .

I am looking at the Zenith mk 2 STD at £2299 or the new Electro ECM1 at £2999 , the Zenith has a disc drive but no built in dac and the Electro has no disc drive but has the latest top class ECD 2 Dac built into it that costs £2000 on its own, I would buy a cheap laptop with a high speed drive to rip music to the ECM 1's built in storage of either a 2.5 or 3.5 drive in a choice of memory sizes, it also does Roon apparently.

I will be interested to see what you think of the sound quality of the more expensive Innuos models and how they compare to your EMC1 UP Cd player.

Hi Electro,

The sq on the Innuos mini was pretty good, but it lacked the more fleshed out sound I get from Spotify via the M DAC+ and the organic sq of the EMC1UP, i.e it lacked the pluck and bite of the guitar on Keith Don't Go by Nils Lofgren.

Yes, that's the reason I'm keen on the Innuos as it does have the built in CD drive... I really don't want to go down the road of having a laptop, besides it wouldn't look so nice on the rack lol.

I'll keep you posted.

Mac

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[Macspur]

Spoke to dealer today and explained reasons for not keeping the mini down to sq and he claims the next model up is Worlds apart and he said I could have it on a 30 day money back guarantee, but not really in a position to shell out £1500 as having boiler fitted next month and we all know how costly that is.

I will definitely do it, but will have to wait for a few months.

Mac

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[Andrewjvt]

Spoke to dealer today and explained reasons for not keeping the mini down to sq and he claims the next model up is Worlds apart and he said I could have it on a 30 day money back guarantee, but not really in a position to shell out £1500 as having boiler fitted next month and we all know how costly that is.

I will definitely do it, but will have to wait for a few months.

Mac

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As it's only outputting digital to a different dac I'd be very worried about this.

I wouldn't look at any other products they offer

 

[JamesMellor]

Spoke to dealer today and explained reasons for not keeping the mini down to sq and he claims the next model up is Worlds apart and he said I could have it on a 30 day money back guarantee, but not really in a position to shell out £1500 as having boiler fitted next month and we all know how costly that is.

I will definitely do it, but will have to wait for a few months.

Mac

www.realmusicnet.wordpress.com

To be fair Mac summer is just around the corner and you can always boil the kettle for a shave, just saying

 

[Macspur]

Spoke to dealer today and explained reasons for not keeping the mini down to sq and he claims the next model up is Worlds apart and he said I could have it on a 30 day money back guarantee, but not really in a position to shell out £1500 as having boiler fitted next month and we all know how costly that is.

I will definitely do it, but will have to wait for a few months.

Mac

www.realmusicnet.wordpress.com

To be fair Mac summer is just around the corner and you can always boil the kettle for a shave, just saying

Do you live in this Country? lol

Seriously though, it's not that simple, current boiler does need changing, it's really not that well and wouldn't pass certification, besides it's not just me to consider.

I'm in no hurry either, very happy with current set up, I just wanted a simple solution to rip CD's into flak and of course something that sounds as good as my CDP, or better.

Mac

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[MUSICRAFT]

spotify can sound very good indeed if put through a good dac .

Hi Electro

Indeed it can. I mainly listen to Spotify through an Esoteric N-05 DAC/Streamer and quality is really, really good *smile*

All the best

Rick @ Musicraft

 

[Timo]

I am also quite intrigued by Innuos -- especially the Mini. Currently I have a Naim ND5XS as source, but an Innuos/Chord Qutest or Hugo 2 combo has a certain appeal, and should sound better. I have not yet heard the Qutest, but Hugo 2 -- a great DAC, which is, in my view, better than the DAC in my ND5XS.

However, I am a bit anxious about leaving the Naim app behind. As you would expect, it works well with Naim streamers; and it has Tidal integrated. We love "browsing" Tidal to find new recordings (mainly, classical music).

I wondered about first-hand user experiences with iPeng -- that is apparently the app Innuos recommends for iPad users. I went to a local dealer, who stocks and sells Innuos. But he was not at all familiar with the iPeng. I took, for instance, calling Innuos' support line twice to get Tidal running. After that I didn't dare to ask about the BBC iplayer or internet radio...

Re Tidal, I didn't like that iPeng didn't seem to offer "free text" searches like the Naim app and in fact the Tidal app. I could search for a specific albums or the artists, for example. But it didn't allow me to search for "Beethoven piano concerto", for instance, to get all recordings of Beethoven's piano concertos. That's a bit annoying for a classical music lover... Or maybe I got it wrong when trying to figure out iPeng on my own...

Anyway, how do others cope with Innuos and the iPeng app? It would be great to have some inputs from the crowd. Cheers!

 

[Macspur]

I am also quite intrigued by Innuos -- especially the Mini. Currently I have a Naim ND5XS as source, but an Innuos/Chord Qutest or Hugo 2 combo has a certain appeal, and should sound better. I have not yet heard the Qutest, but Hugo 2 -- a great DAC, which is, in my view, better than the DAC in my ND5XS.

However, I am a bit anxious about leaving the Naim app behind. As you would expect, it works well with Naim streamers; and it has Tidal integrated. We love "browsing" Tidal to find new recordings (mainly, classical music).

I wondered about first-hand user experiences with iPeng -- that is apparently the app Innuos recommends for iPad users. I went to a local dealer, who stocks and sells Innuos. But he was not at all familiar with the iPeng. I took, for instance, calling Innuos' support line twice to get Tidal running. After that I didn't dare to ask about the BBC iplayer or internet radio...

Re Tidal, I didn't like that iPeng didn't seem to offer "free text" searches like the Naim app and in fact the Tidal app. I could search for a specific albums or the artists, for example. But it didn't allow me to search for "Beethoven piano concerto", for instance, to get all recordings of Beethoven's piano concertos. That's a bit annoying for a classical music lover... Or maybe I got it wrong when trying to figure out iPeng on my own...

Anyway, how do others cope with Innuos and the iPeng app? It would be great to have some inputs from the crowd. Cheers!

In the short time I've had the mini on home demo, I didn't bother downloading iPeng, I just linked the Innuos to my Sonos and used it's app which is excellent.

Mac

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[ellisdj]

mac try the model up when you can and feedback your thoughts

 

[davidf]

I am also quite intrigued by Innuos -- especially the Mini. Currently I have a Naim ND5XS as source, but an Innuos/Chord Qutest or Hugo 2 combo has a certain appeal, and should sound better. I have not yet heard the Qutest, but Hugo 2 -- a great DAC, which is, in my view, better than the DAC in my ND5XS.

However, I am a bit anxious about leaving the Naim app behind. As you would expect, it works well with Naim streamers; and it has Tidal integrated. We love "browsing" Tidal to find new recordings (mainly, classical music).

I wondered about first-hand user experiences with iPeng -- that is apparently the app Innuos recommends for iPad users. I went to a local dealer, who stocks and sells Innuos. But he was not at all familiar with the iPeng. I took, for instance, calling Innuos' support line twice to get Tidal running. After that I didn't dare to ask about the BBC iplayer or internet radio...

I use SqueezePad.

For your system, I’d recommend looking at the ZEN rather than the ZEN Mini - I would usually recommend the Mini for Sonos/HEOS type systems, and other multiroom and wireless speaker setups.

 

[Macspur]

mac try the model up when you can and feedback your thoughts

Yes, that's my intention, although I've seen a used Zenith MK2 for sale on the net which is very tempting.

Mac

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