Help setting up my new Cyrus amp

[SailToTheMoon]

what else did you demo ?\
all up and running at home now ?

I had to go out last night and am just about to go out this morning, but hopefully back to it at around lunchtime and spending the rest of the day listening to records!

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

I had to go out last night and am just about to go out this morning, but hopefully back to it at around lunchtime and spending the rest of the day listening to records!

hopefully you will love your new system; I am sure you will !

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

up and running ?

 

[Gray]

Got a great price on it from Peter Tyson. Only £1550.

That really was a great price.
I got my i7 with an £1100 discount - but I'd have jumped at the i9 at the price you paid.

 

[Gray]

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Finally worked out how to create a .jpg from a .heic image on this iPhone.

Anyway this picture explains things better than I can. The upper black speaker socket now has no plastic end bit for the internal pin. The red one next to it does.

And yes, it’s BFA connectors on the end of the speaker wire.

Won't the plastic piece push back onto the stump?....not that there's any harm in it staying like that.

 

[Gray]

And yes, it’s BFA connectors on the end of the speaker wire.

I've got a feeling they're not actually BFA plugs fitted to your cable.
They may be the hollow pin (zig zag split) type -and they obviously make contact but BFA plugs are slightly wider and are not hard to push in - so would not have caused the plastic piece to detach.

Did you look for the 4 BFA plugs that Cyrus supply with new amps?

 

[nopiano]

I've got a feeling they're not actually BFA plugs fitted to your cable.
They may be the hollow pin (zig zag split) type -and they obviously make contact but BFA plugs are slightly wider and are not hard to push in - so would not have caused the plastic piece to detach.

Did you look for the 4 BFA plugs that Cyrus supply with new amps?

Yes, I noticed in the Cyrus manual I posted a link to above doesn’t actually state to use BFA. It says use the supplied, and BFA also fit! Very curious.

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

It’s gone quiet ……….?

 

[SailToTheMoon]

Sorry for not updating!! Thanks to everyone for their help.

Yes I’ve got it all working. Those plus were a real pain but once I was sure of what I was doing it was fine. They were set really tight so I widened them out a little so the had the width to go over the plastic ends. Doesn’t seem like the best system in the world, but it’s done now and working so all good.

I’m loving the sound. So glad I auditioned all the kit to get what I liked best. I’ve been playing records all day. It’s amazing that previously seemingly pedestrian songs sound fantastic now!

I’ve stuck a photo of the plugs below. The black one has been widened out a bit so it actually fits the back of the amp. I hadn’t widened the red one yet (but did obviously).

 

[nopiano]

I’ve stuck a photo of the plugs below.

I think they’re what I know as Z plugs. The concept seems to be that they fit your safety shield compact sockets, and also fit more conventional banana sockets. It seems like that aim isn’t universally achieved!

The main thing is you have a system you’re delighted with!

 

[SailToTheMoon]

I think they’re what I know a Z plugs. The concept seems to be that they fit your safety shield compact sockets, and also fit more conventional banana sockets. It seems like that aim isn’t universally achieved!

The main thing is you have a system you’re delighted with!

I’m a bit of a dunce with jacks/plugs, so I’m sure I would get used to using them after a while. But yeah, they do seem all uses master of none kinda plugs!

 

[Gray]

I’ve stuck a photo of the plugs below.

They are what I thought they were going to be - and they are not BFA plugs.
When you bend those out, they don't widen uniformly to the shape of a BFA plug....part of the contact will remain too narrow (and some of it could be wider than ideal).

You may have missed the previous couple of times I've asked, so I will ask again:
Did you look for the plugs that Cyrus supply with your amp?

With the correct plugs fitted to your cable you could plug / unplug easily, with no risk of damage in future.
But if you're happy as you are, fair enough, end of story 👍

 

[Al ears]

They are what I thought they were going to be - and they are not BFA plugs.
When you bend those out, they don't widen uniformly to the shape of a BFA plug....part of the contact will remain too narrow (and some of it could be wider than ideal).

You may have missed the previous couple of times I've asked, so I will ask again:
Did you look for the plugs that Cyrus supply with your amp?

With the correct plugs fitted to your cable you could plug / unplug easily, with no risk of damage in future.
But if you're happy as you are, fair enough, end of story 👍

Yes, completely the wrong type of speaker cable connectors for Cyrus amplifiers.

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

bit like my wee NAIM NAit 50 and the Naim Speaker Cable connector; A pointless faff at least assisted by the fact that banana plugs remain operable !
the bloomin NAIM speaker terminal adaptors demand soldering in.
No standardisation.. UKCA to the rescue !

 

[Rodolfo]

Back to the dealers??
Cyrus don't use standard banana plugs as far as I am aware.

They did 40 years ago on my original One! 😉

 

[SailToTheMoon]

They are what I thought they were going to be - and they are not BFA plugs.
When you bend those out, they don't widen uniformly to the shape of a BFA plug....part of the contact will remain too narrow (and some of it could be wider than ideal).

You may have missed the previous couple of times I've asked, so I will ask again:
Did you look for the plugs that Cyrus supply with your amp?

With the correct plugs fitted to your cable you could plug / unplug easily, with no risk of damage in future.
But if you're happy as you are, fair enough, end of story 👍

Sorry mate I should have replied.

The plugs that come with the amp are the same as the ones that PT put on the speaker cables.

 

[Gray]

Sorry mate I should have replied.

The plugs that come with the amp are the same as the ones that PT put on the speaker cables.

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Well 😳
Certainly a more common type than BFA, but I'm not surprised they broke off your plastic.
They do the job and that's what counts.
Enjoy your amp, I know you will 👍

 

[SailToTheMoon]

Well 😳
Certainly a more common type than BFA, but I'm not surprised they broke off your plastic.
They do the job and that's what counts.
Enjoy your amp, I know you will 👍

Thanks mate. Sitting enjoying it right now, hearing things in Kid A I didn’t know were there 😀

 

[The_Lecht_Rocks]

How would you describe the sound as a system?

 

[SailToTheMoon]

How would you describe the sound as a system?

I don’t really have the vocabulary or experience with the parlance and terminology of the audio appreciation world, but I’d say one of the first things I noticed was that I could easily distinguish each separate element of a track whilst also enjoying it as a whole. I can always seem now to focus on any instrument and hear it very clearly, it’s definitely not murky. But at the same time it doesn’t feel brittle, it’s powerful and organic. It’s like having the instruments in the room sometimes. And the volume going up or down doesn’t blow out or diminish the effects.

 

[Gray]

I don’t really have the vocabulary or experience with the parlance and terminology of the audio appreciation world, but I’d say one of the first things I noticed was that I could easily distinguish each separate element of a track whilst also enjoying it as a whole. I can always seem now to focus on any instrument and hear it very clearly, it’s definitely not murky. But at the same time it doesn’t feel brittle, it’s powerful and organic. It’s like having the instruments in the room sometimes. And the volume going up or down doesn’t blow out or diminish the effects.

You have got the vocabulary - you've perfectly described the sound you get.
I know that because I get it too.
It's often been said that "you soon tire of the Cyrus sound".
I only chose my first Cyrus amp 22 years ago......I'll let them know.