Future amplifier classics

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davedotco said:
Something like this maybe...?

The power amps would blow up regularly, the original Bob Stuart design and the later models by Stan Curtis.

I did own an early glass topped pre-amp though I am struggling to remember what power amplifier.

It may well have been my Phase Linear 400

I had mine, sans cabinet, hidden in a cupboard driving a pair of BC1s.

My hard rock loving mates laughed when they saw my Spendors, they all had JBLs or similar. I played them something that started with just a voice (Bad Company, I'm sure), then Simon Kirk's drums came in and left them with their chins on the floor.

273 watts a channel will do that........*yahoo*

273 watts in those days would certainly have given you a kick in the ass.

I remenber that AC1 / AP1 pairing well, a good mate of mine owned them in the seventies. Classics for sure and museum pieces literally as many places have them in as part of their technology and design section.
 

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Although I don't think there is a stric universal formula what becomes a classic, I do believe when we compare todays classics coming from 20-30 years ago, patterns emerge and we may predict the future ones.

VU meters, yay. LED strips nay.
 

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Happy_Listner said:
Vlad, if you like the look of the Audio Innovations Alto then check this one out. The Alchemist Kraken APD6A MkII integrated amp. I just like to just call it Frakenstein. Yep, I have one of those too. I don't use it much anymore because it runs high into Class A and gets hot enough to cook an egg. I can barley touch the metal knobs after 90min or so. It has a separate power suply box with two tordial transformers. This is definatley a classic in my book and I'll never sell mine. When it stops working I'll use it as a unique paper wieght. Here is a link for you: http://www.alchemisthifi.info/ranges/kraken/alchemist_kraken_apd6_integr...

I used to have one of these. It's sweet, warm, detailed sound got me interested in Valve amps. Wish I still had it.....
 

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A Devialet not only has great industrial design, it has very innovative and unique DSP and amplification technology too. - A very strong candidate for an instant classic I would suggest.
 

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Infiniteloop said:
A Devialet not only has great industrial design, it has very innovative and unique DSP and amplification technology too. - A very strong candidate for an instant classic I would suggest.

Agreed. Devialet will be the amp to beat for the foreseeable future, mainly because of the ADH topology, the upgradable platform, and SAM.

*dirol*

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matt49 said:
Infiniteloop said:
A Devialet not only has great industrial design, it has very innovative and unique DSP and amplification technology too. - A very strong candidate for an instant classic I would suggest.

Agreed. Devialet will be the amp to beat for the foreseeable future, mainly because of the ADH topology, the upgradable platform, and SAM.

*dirol*

Matt

What i fear most about new gismos, like NAS, AV receivers and amps like the Devialet, is the future softwear support, can you imagine having system support for the Devialet in 30 years...?

I think the future will bring more disposeble items that actual times have.

In 50/60 years if it is broken (not we, but ower sons) they will have to throw it away and get a new one.

I think i'm not that far off...
 

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Hi-FiOutlaw said:
What i fear most about new gismos, like NAS, AV receivers and amps like the Devialet, is the future softwear support, can you imagine having system support for the Devialet in 30 years...?

I think the future will bring more disposeble items that actual times have.

In 50/60 years if it is broken (not we, but ower sons) they will have to throw it away and get a new one.

I think i'm not that far off...

That's a fair point, though the Devialet can be used like a normal DAC/amp, without any software updates/upgrading.
 
matt49 said:
Hi-FiOutlaw said:
What i fear most about new gismos, like NAS, AV receivers and amps like the Devialet, is the future softwear support, can you imagine having system support for the Devialet in 30 years...?

I think the future will bring more disposeble items that actual times have.

In 50/60 years if it is broken (not we, but ower sons) they will have to throw it away and get a new one.

I think i'm not that far off...

That's a fair point, though the Devialet can be used like a normal DAC/amp, without any software updates/upgrading.
+1. That's why I think straight-forward analogue designs are likely to have greater classic status.
 

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This power amp is quite a classic. In America anyways.

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I owned the Aragon D2A D/A convertor that came with the separarte heavy triangle shaped power supply. That was about 20 years ago now. Wow, that thing sounded good! Blew away almost anything at the time. I really believe that the power supply is very important and is what helped it sound so dynamic and bold. I feel like manufactures skimp on this in todays DAC's and phono preamps. It even came with a plug in cable so you can sit in your position, use the thumb button on it, and then switch between polarity. Awesome products.
 

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In regards to the first picture, I think I know where that is Vlad. It's a Hi-Fi shop in Toronto. They carry some nice stuff! A lot of good used gear also passes through their doors.

Hey Vald, not to change the subject, but those speakers reminded me of this. Watch the video sometime. I found it interesting how obsessed some audiophiles become and how much money they are willing to spend on their gear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs1aUws0Lrs
 

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Happy_Listner said:
In regards to the first picture, I think I know where that is Vlad. It's a Hi-Fi shop in Toronto. They carry some nice stuff! A lot of good used gear also passes through their doors.

Hey Vald, not to change the subject, but those speakers reminded me of this. Watch the video sometime. I found it interesting how obsessed some audiophiles become and how much money they are willing to spend on their gear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs1aUws0Lrs

The V cut on the Aragon is actually called a chimney because it serves as efficient convex cooling system.

South of Macedonia where I live is Greece and up north is Serbia. Those two countries are mad about audio, full of the audiophilia craze and lots of new cottage industry high-end audio makers. That documentary is not a joke!

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Great thread Vlad - it was fun reading through all the posts.

I would nominate the Peachtree 125SE, which I used to have before I upgraded to the 220SE. I still think the 125SE was amazing value for the money.

How about a 'future speaker classics' thread Vlad? Or does that already exist and I haven't been able to see it?

Cheers all :)
 

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Miles said:
Great thread Vlad - it was fun reading through all the posts.

I would nominate the Peachtree 125SE, which I used to have before I upgraded to the 220SE. I still think the 125SE was amazing value for the money.

How about a 'future speaker classics' thread Vlad? Or does that already exist and I haven't been able to see it?

Cheers all :)

None so far Miles. But I have a feeling the first nominate will be the KEF LS50. But who else? *smile*
 

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Future Classics?I would nominate NAD D3020,M2,M12+M22,326Bee,Yamaha AS 1100,2100,3000,Accuphase E560,600,T+A PA3000HV,T+A Power Plant Balanced,Devialet prof. series,Marantz PM6005, PM KI Pearl,Creek Evo 50A,Arcam FMJ A19,Roksan Kandy 2,Peachtree Nova 125Se,Peachtree GrandX1 .....just to name few,besides all time classics like ML,Naim,Luxmann,Goldmund,Electrocompanient etc...
 

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Vladimir said:
Ah, the majestic Aragon.

The MkII in action. (I wish this was my livingroom)

What, you'd like to have a stereo image / soundstage that's only 5 foot wide?

And you'd like to have a trip hazard every time you got up to put on a CD?
 

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