Criticise your own brand/s

drummerman

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Ok, I am a long term cyrus user. I obviously like the brand otherwise I wouldn't have been using it for so long but there are things that are not ideal;

The two things I don't like are the closeness of the sockets and the rear access headphone socket. The former is unavoidable short of having less inputs, the latter a bit of a pain.

You get used to it but still ... .

The one superficial thing I don't like are the small feet. They don't enhance the design and I've replaced them with round Fisual Isolation Pads on all units. Much better.

I quite like the displays but I guess a 'reverse' to green (or white) on black background may look better?

Anything you don't like about your chosen brand?
 
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Like DM I'm a Cyrus lover, especially of their older products, but they weren't without fault. The upward-facing socket-plate at the back is a dust-trap for any sockets you might not be using, which is a ticking timebomb for trouble. The only speaker outlets are banana sockets, which are also too close together to use safely with uninsulated banana plugs. In terms of build you get two options: early plastic-case models where the paint flakes off the rotary knobs, or later magnesium-case models where the nextel paint flakes/peels off the casework. (Late run-out models like mine were at least painted with proper black paint). Later models got a toggle-switch for the mains to replace the earlier push-button, but these are prone to failure. The contacts in the Alps source and record selector switches weren't electroplated and were prone to tarnishing, giving rise to eratic behavour where one or both channels drop out. No headphone socket on the later models, but because it didn't mute the speakers, and seeing there wasn't a separate on/off switch which did, on models so equipped it was of questionable use anyway.
 
MajorFubar said:
Like DM I'm a Cyrus lover, especially of their older products, but they weren't without fault. The upward-facing socket-plate at the back is a dust-trap for any sockets you might not be using, which is a ticking timebomb for trouble. The only speaker outlets are banana sockets, which are also too close together to use safely with uninsulated banana plugs. In terms of build you get two options: early plastic-case models where the paint flakes off the rotary knobs, or later magnesium-case models where the nextel paint flakes/peels off the casework. (Late run-out models like mine were at least painted with proper black paint). Later models got a toggle-switch for the mains to replace the earlier push-button, but these are prone to failure. The contacts in the Alps source and record selector switches weren't electroplated and were prone to tarnishing, giving rise to eratic behavour where one or both channels drop out. No headphone socket on the later models, but because it didn't mute the speakers, and seeing there wasn't a separate on/off switch which did, on models so equipped it was of questionable use anyway.

The sound quality must be very very good to put up with all that
 
Andrewjvt said:
The sound quality must be very very good to put up with all that

🙂 Meh, probably just me, the Mrs says I'm hard to please and I could pick fault with a Rolls Royce
 
The Sennheiser HD700 were the best sounding and the most comfortable headphones that I tried when I auditioned a few. But I do find them to be a bit bass light until you add a bit of EQ which IMO they do need to sound balanced.
 
The sporadic hum from my naim nait xs is slightly annoying at times but the overall Sq and build more than makes up for it.oh and headphone amps with no remote for volume is very irritating.I sit a few metres from the system when I've got the cans on and have to get up off my lazy a## to adjust the volume.
 
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I am struggling here. Perhaps the current price for my amplification might qualify, not that I paid full price for mine.

The lack of a fitted cover for my turntable might be a major concern for some. 🙂
 
cables clutter on the back of ATC and Yamaha speakers, headphone socket at the back of the preamp - that one really annoys me.. not the best looking speaker grills and I have to use them as my 8 months son is around.
 
Cable clutter with my actives.

id prefer if my Genelecs had dials for adjusting bass and treble rather than just the 5 or so switches to be turned on/off depending on the placement.
 
I really love my Nad C320Bee but the volume control via the remote is so so bad. The remote on my Nad 3020 D is so bad generally (and cheap looking) I don't use it.... Also, Nad cd players sound great but their components are made of Belgian chocolate.
 
on the Vincent amp, for the money it's ridiculous, volume control too sensitive (cured with switchable attenuators). Heat level is so high I'm thinking of installing one or two PC type fans at the rear before the unit top above decides to ignite.

AKG 550 headphones need quite a bit of bass lift to make them sound sweet.

Oppo PM1 headphones can get a bit heavy and the clamp pressure a bit too much during a long session (or maybe it's my head!).
 
drummerman said:
Ok, I am a long term cyrus user. I obviously like the brand otherwise I wouldn't have been using it for so long but there are things that are not ideal;

The two things I don't like are the closeness of the sockets and the rear access headphone socket. The former is unavoidable short of having less inputs, the latter a bit of a pain.

You get used to it but still ... .

The one superficial thing I don't like are the small feet. They don't enhance the design and I've replaced them with round Fisual Isolation Pads on all units. Much better.

I quite like the displays but I guess a 'reverse' to green (or white) on black background may look better?

Anything you don't like about your chosen brand?
Mine's the Cyrus 8 amp and you're right about the closeness of the sockets especially when you've got them all plugged up - not easy to get to middle ones.

I never fancied the idea of the rear mounted headphone socket which is why I've always had an extension, chassis mounted socket permanently plugged in. (Handy that the rear socket's front panel switchable, so the rear plug can be left in)

As for the feet, I've got it on Foculpods (which certainly stops it slipping around)

On the plus side, everything else is fantastic not least the sound of course and the electronic volume control, maintaining perfect (or as good as it gets) channel balance at all volume levels - and never any need of anti-crackle contact cleaner.
 

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