Stuart83
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You keep going in circles 🤦
I'm unsure if it's to try and gain traction with people new to the thread who haven't read my prior messages or not so I will bulletin the finer points.
(I'm not however "Trolling "which seems to be a very apt word to use through my prior posts to quote myself again)
This was a test after all holistically on the differences between three CDP's using their own DACS.
•All three CDP's where connected to the SAME amp using the identical properties of the Hegal H-190' s 2 RCA analogue in.
•All the CD players where facing away with the same CD in (yeah I really do have two copies of Babel "Mumford and sons") apart from the CD 60 that was totally concealed by my large pouffes.
•The Hegal remote was used on all three players NOT just for convenience but because it operates then in unison as a master control, this avoided the different remotes especially the CD 52 MK2 giving it away.
•Having found going INSTANTLY FROM ANALOGUE 1 TO ANALOGUE 2 on the Hegal between the CD 52 and 6007 and NOT finding any difference using identical EVERYTHING and on the contrary, NOT needing to volume match despite a tiny output difference, the 6007 was unplugged.
•The Marantz CD 60 was connected in the CD 6007's place giving me the same instant A/B capability with the IDENTICAL CDS PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME using the Hegals remote to operate them both.
(Understand the CD 60 is slightly faster at loading a CD but from pressing play on a preloaded disk the play initiates at the same time, regardless even as a long time djay who messes purposely with timing when cycling sources it would be hard to spot the overlap, especially after a few swaps)
•The Marantz CD 60 house sound default filter was used in the interest of further fairness and to nullify any possible differences made by the EQ.
•Even the Cambridge audio RCA cables where identical in each player.
Same music, same amp, and as BLIND AS A BAT at which player was playing what, giving they where once again facing away and further concealed by a large pouffes.
What I do want to add is THIS IS A REAL WORLD TEST actually going even further how you would actually demo things at any given hifi store, after all this is what you would want to hear isn't it ? the players through the same gear.
ME going through the extra steps is down to me because I'm a very analytically minded personality BUT it's not the norm when demoing hifi wether it be at home, a show or even a store.
I wish it could be the way I do it with an instant switch between two bits of kit using the same gear even down to identical cables and BLIND with NOT KNOWING WHICH ANCILIERIES WHERE WHICH.
Even using the same remote 🗣️😡
I'm don't mind stating the obvious now, what your on about WOULD INVALIDATE any demo I'd be interested in as I want to hear the actual ancilieries holistically as sold.
I frequent ASR for that kind of thing.
(I actually have the gear to mix the three CDP's together and randomise the samples but why the sweet j esus would I 😂 I do far more djaying for fun and the occasional bit pocket money)
What's prominent is by your replies it's become apparent you haven't fully read my posts and just keep cherry picking what you want THAT'S already covered in the original message to prove your on the other side of the fence with the whole thing, so what I enjoy this forum and value the members including YOU despite the argumentative manner I'd rather you have YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINE and move on.
Suffice to say I'm done with this post now, I shared my experience and "opinion" in which seems to be mirrored by the lion share
But theirs always ONE 🫵1
It's all in good fun and seriously no hard feelings on any of it, I'm listening to a little new found gem "The Head And The Heart" that loud I'm involuntarily flinching thinking a driver is going to fly past my heed
I'm unsure if it's to try and gain traction with people new to the thread who haven't read my prior messages or not so I will bulletin the finer points.
(I'm not however "Trolling "which seems to be a very apt word to use through my prior posts to quote myself again)
This was a test after all holistically on the differences between three CDP's using their own DACS.
•All three CDP's where connected to the SAME amp using the identical properties of the Hegal H-190' s 2 RCA analogue in.
•All the CD players where facing away with the same CD in (yeah I really do have two copies of Babel "Mumford and sons") apart from the CD 60 that was totally concealed by my large pouffes.
•The Hegal remote was used on all three players NOT just for convenience but because it operates then in unison as a master control, this avoided the different remotes especially the CD 52 MK2 giving it away.
•Having found going INSTANTLY FROM ANALOGUE 1 TO ANALOGUE 2 on the Hegal between the CD 52 and 6007 and NOT finding any difference using identical EVERYTHING and on the contrary, NOT needing to volume match despite a tiny output difference, the 6007 was unplugged.
•The Marantz CD 60 was connected in the CD 6007's place giving me the same instant A/B capability with the IDENTICAL CDS PLAYING AT THE SAME TIME using the Hegals remote to operate them both.
(Understand the CD 60 is slightly faster at loading a CD but from pressing play on a preloaded disk the play initiates at the same time, regardless even as a long time djay who messes purposely with timing when cycling sources it would be hard to spot the overlap, especially after a few swaps)
•The Marantz CD 60 house sound default filter was used in the interest of further fairness and to nullify any possible differences made by the EQ.
•Even the Cambridge audio RCA cables where identical in each player.
Same music, same amp, and as BLIND AS A BAT at which player was playing what, giving they where once again facing away and further concealed by a large pouffes.
What I do want to add is THIS IS A REAL WORLD TEST actually going even further how you would actually demo things at any given hifi store, after all this is what you would want to hear isn't it ? the players through the same gear.
ME going through the extra steps is down to me because I'm a very analytically minded personality BUT it's not the norm when demoing hifi wether it be at home, a show or even a store.
I wish it could be the way I do it with an instant switch between two bits of kit using the same gear even down to identical cables and BLIND with NOT KNOWING WHICH ANCILIERIES WHERE WHICH.
Even using the same remote 🗣️😡
I'm don't mind stating the obvious now, what your on about WOULD INVALIDATE any demo I'd be interested in as I want to hear the actual ancilieries holistically as sold.
I frequent ASR for that kind of thing.
(I actually have the gear to mix the three CDP's together and randomise the samples but why the sweet j esus would I 😂 I do far more djaying for fun and the occasional bit pocket money)
What's prominent is by your replies it's become apparent you haven't fully read my posts and just keep cherry picking what you want THAT'S already covered in the original message to prove your on the other side of the fence with the whole thing, so what I enjoy this forum and value the members including YOU despite the argumentative manner I'd rather you have YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINE and move on.
Suffice to say I'm done with this post now, I shared my experience and "opinion" in which seems to be mirrored by the lion share
But theirs always ONE 🫵1
It's all in good fun and seriously no hard feelings on any of it, I'm listening to a little new found gem "The Head And The Heart" that loud I'm involuntarily flinching thinking a driver is going to fly past my heed
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