A pointless review?

[BigH]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

 

[CnoEvil]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

 

[John Duncan]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

And the other half is from Nailsworth*

*I'd show you that calculation but you wouldn't understand it.

 

[CnoEvil]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

And the other half is from Nailsworth* *I'd show you that calculation but you wouldn't understand it.

Of course I would.........I'm Irish.

 

[John Duncan]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

We're not good enough hm?

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

I don't see how this forum doesn't get any women members? :? On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

 

[simonlewis]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

I don't see how this forum doesn't get any women members? :? On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

Too many cable debates and too many people complaining about expensive CD players.

 

[spiny norman]

On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

Does your ability to disturb and unnerve know no limits?

 

[JMacMan]

I've just read the review of the Burmester 069 CD player at a modest £35,840. Now I think the number of WHiFi readers that could afford to buy this can be numbered on the fingers of one foot. So what is the point of the review?

I think it is the same as you see on Top Gear when they review supercars that nobody can afford. It's about dreams and fantasies. I guess it's harmless. little boys playing with their toys, but I think the time could be better spent reviewing things we might actually buy.

Chris

I guess there's a market for everything, and some people may well have the means to buy the CD player you're mentioning.

It's probably nice up to a point to read a glowing review, and one that will possibly feed dreams of a lottery win for some - but like the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, such audiophile dreams inspired by such review hyperbole, are fantasy at best.

Without a proper controlled test, referenced either against live music, or if one merely wishes to establishes differences, and perhaps preferences, AB'd blind against other kit (or preferably ABX'd blind) then hoping, or believing on the basis of uncontrolled and unprofessional reviews by amateur journalists, that a very expensive CD player is going to be audio nirvana, is just plain silly and totally illogical.

Instead, just as one may compare a Toyota Corolla to a Rolls Royce, as they are both devices to get you from A to B, and one can have all sorts of diverse criteria to determine which is 'best', the differences to someone with the means to buy the Rolls, will probably be worth it in terms of perceived quality, luxury, engineering finesse, and so on.

As such, someone buying the Burmeister, is probably just as much interested in the perceived exclusivity and quality, as any notions about sound quality.

Ergo, it is very much luxury goods, and there's nothing wrong with that if that is what one wants, and has the money to pay for it - from a marketing point of view.

From a purely sound quality POV, I doubt there'd be a lot in it between it and a decent computer based streamer - however that's not likely to be the main reason someone with the funds to purchase one, would likely choose the Burmeister.

Bear in mind that with the Rolls v's Toyota analogy, subjective impressions can be backed up with facts and measurements - whereas with Hifi and audiophiles, facts and measurements are few and far between in the world of almost totally subjective reviewing.

JMac

 

[John Duncan]

JMacMan, usually I appreciate your thoughts, but I have to take umbrage with this one:

amateur reviewers

as I'm almost certain they get paid.

 

[chebby]

JMacMan, usually I appreciate your thoughts, but I have to take umbrage with this one:

amateur reviewers

as I'm almost certain they get paid.

The words JMacMan used were...

...reviews by amateur journalists...

I think it makes a difference (albeit subtle) to the point he made.

 

[Deleted member 2457]

On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

Does your ability to disturb and unnerve know no limits?

What are you on about this time? :hand:

 

[Deleted member 2457]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

I don't see how this forum doesn't get any women members? :? On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

Too many cable debates and too many people complaining about expensive CD players.

Yep, I doubt it helps. The women I have had contact with on AV are into their TVs big time. One owns a Pioneer 5090 and previously a Pioneer 428XD.

 

[spiny norman]

JMacMan, usually I appreciate your thoughts, but I have to take umbrage with this one:

amateur reviewers

as I'm almost certain they get paid.

And show little sign of conforming to the etymology of the word.

 

[spiny norman]

What are you on about this time? :hand:

 

[alchemist 1]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity. Is there no sanctuary ?.................😛ray:

 

[John Duncan]

JMacMan, usually I appreciate your thoughts, but I have to take umbrage with this one:

amateur reviewers

as I'm almost certain they get paid.

The words JMacMan used were...

...reviews by amateur journalists...

I think it makes a difference (albeit subtle) to the point he made.

You are right, I was (mis)quoting from memory, my apologies to JMacMan.

I disagree that the essence changes though.

 

[RobinKidderminster]

Those who can afford £35k for a cd player are a tiny minority. In that minority how many read this mag? From experience, expensive installs are done by professionals, the client oblivious to the sound quality of individual items. My argument not to dispute that some may wish to read of these systems but merely to contradict those who think 'the rich' read whf in order to find reviews of very high end equipment.

Thats wot I fink anyway. 🙂

 

[simonlewis]

It's not about people who can afford a £36K CD player robinkidderminster, it's about people who are interested in reading about a £36K CD player even though they will never afford it and that includes me, i quite like temptations in the mag because i like to know whats out their that i can't afford.

 

[John Duncan]

i like to know whats out their [sic] that i can't afford.

I know that already. Everything.

 

[The_Lhc]

I think half this forum is from Venus and the other half from Mars! :wall:

Hardly any women on here!

More's the pity.

I don't see how this forum doesn't get any women members? :? On AV Forums there are quite a few on there, I am friends with one too.

Too many cable debates and too many people complaining about expensive CD players.

And too much dribbling whenever they do show their faces...

 

[Joe Cox]

...on the basis of uncontrolled and unprofessional reviews by amateur journalists...

Pardon?

 

[John Duncan]

And too much dribbling whenever they do show their faces...

How very dare you. I pride myself in my creepy flirting being dribble-free.

 

[Johnno2]

A good £300 + turntable with clean well recorded vinyl will still sound better than a CD player regardeless of its price :wave:

 

[alchemist 1]

I've ordered two............:roll: