Jim-W said:
I'd have thought I had more of the Bernard Bresslaws about me, than Tommy Cooper.
All three correct, well done. :clap:
Is there a prize? Is there f**k !
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I'd have thought I had more of the Bernard Bresslaws about me, than Tommy Cooper.
All three correct, well done. :clap:
Is there a prize? Is there f**k !
Hi Charlie
The whole Neil Young first album original/reissue debate is, as I thought, rather complicated and more involved than I realised. The easy way to tell if your version of 'Here We Are In The Years' is an original is the ending:there should be a heartbeat sound which was removed in the remix/reissue. There is apparently one version of the record which contains one side of the original and one side of the remixed version! I had no idea and I'm going to have to play mine through to find out what I've got. The Steve Hoffman forum is good as is the Nick Drake forum. I still think yours is an original which is now worth serious money as many NY fans, myself included, prefer it so it's highly sought after. If you ever come across the German, '2 Originals Of Neil Young' this has the original mix and it's quite easy to find.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/original-mix-on-the-first-neil-young-album.246434/
http://www.nickdrake.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=17306&sid=1581bd5ed8bd6e5939439bb4cab1d166
Phew!
The whole Neil Young first album original/reissue debate is, as I thought, rather complicated and more involved than I realised. The easy way to tell if your version of 'Here We Are In The Years' is an original is the ending:there should be a heartbeat sound which was removed in the remix/reissue. There is apparently one version of the record which contains one side of the original and one side of the remixed version! I had no idea and I'm going to have to play mine through to find out what I've got. The Steve Hoffman forum is good as is the Nick Drake forum. I still think yours is an original which is now worth serious money as many NY fans, myself included, prefer it so it's highly sought after. If you ever come across the German, '2 Originals Of Neil Young' this has the original mix and it's quite easy to find.
http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/original-mix-on-the-first-neil-young-album.246434/
http://www.nickdrake.com/talk/viewtopic.php?p=17306&sid=1581bd5ed8bd6e5939439bb4cab1d166
Phew!
Charlie Jefferson
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Jim-W said:
Hi Jim,
Great research there. Thanks.
I'm just about to ascertain which version I have. I'll report back accordingly.
I'm an occasional visitor to the Steve Hoffman forums but I haven't ventured to the Nick Drake one. Thanks for the tip off.
Additional note/question:
I wonder which mix made it onto the 2009/2010(?) vinyl reissue of NY's first four LPs. The box set version. Superb sounding Harvest on there too!!
Charlie Jefferson said:
The version on the box set reissue of the 4 albums used the original masters from the Neil Young remix so it's the later version, although I think it sounds better; in fact I think that this is probably the best sounding version of the record, sonically-speaking. I still prefer the original mix though! Those 4 lps from 2010 are certainly the best sounding versions as is Neil Young's Greatest Hits. There's a warmth and better instrument separation. If only he'd maintained the quality control evident on those first four records-I'm thinking 1980's and some of the recent stuff here. Having said that, I'm a big fan of 'Old Ways.' and the live bootlegs of The International Harvesters are really good, although I only have them on tape.
Charlie Jefferson
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Hi Jim,
Yes, I agree with you about the first four albums in the re-issued box sounding good. Very good. I was also taken aback by the supreme audio sound quality of the Blu-rays in the Archive Vol.1 box. The best argument for digital versions of older recordings I've yet to hear.
Returning to the debut LP: so in theory I might own both mixes? The re-issue and the first incarnation of the original? I haven't had the chance to play the original debut album yet. It's not a gatefold, but as mentioned it's a rather thick and glossy covered item featuring no text on the front at all, just the painting of NY.
The allure and love of vinyl. And that's on a day when I've hardly played any.
Snatched an hour or so this morning:
Oh, What A Lovely War - Joan Littlewood's Theatre workshop cast recording
(Did you ever produce this in your Drama teaching days, Jim? I really like it and I'm tempted by attempting some version of it at our school next year)
Down In the Groove - Bob
Blood On The Tracks - Bob.
Yes, I agree with you about the first four albums in the re-issued box sounding good. Very good. I was also taken aback by the supreme audio sound quality of the Blu-rays in the Archive Vol.1 box. The best argument for digital versions of older recordings I've yet to hear.
Returning to the debut LP: so in theory I might own both mixes? The re-issue and the first incarnation of the original? I haven't had the chance to play the original debut album yet. It's not a gatefold, but as mentioned it's a rather thick and glossy covered item featuring no text on the front at all, just the painting of NY.
The allure and love of vinyl. And that's on a day when I've hardly played any.
Snatched an hour or so this morning:
Oh, What A Lovely War - Joan Littlewood's Theatre workshop cast recording
(Did you ever produce this in your Drama teaching days, Jim? I really like it and I'm tempted by attempting some version of it at our school next year)
Down In the Groove - Bob
Blood On The Tracks - Bob.
Today's listening:
Neil Young-Neil Young
Neil Young-Neil Young Remix!
The Psychedelic Furs-The Psychedelic Furs.
John Fahey- Blind Joe Death Volume 1 ( Sonet Records)
Frankie Miller-The Very Best Of Frankie Miller.
Neil Young-Neil Young
Neil Young-Neil Young Remix!
The Psychedelic Furs-The Psychedelic Furs.
John Fahey- Blind Joe Death Volume 1 ( Sonet Records)
Frankie Miller-The Very Best Of Frankie Miller.
BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW said:
It's the only Psychedelic Furs album I've got, BBB. If I come across any others I will probably take a punt on them. I really like this record especially 'Sister Europe.' Interesting band. Thanks for your comment.
Jim-W said:
They're all worth getting, apart from Midnight To Midnight, which is awful. Mirror Moves is a bit polished, but has some good tracks, World Outside is a little bit Madchester, but still good, and Book Of Days was quite a return to form after the dreadful Midnight To Midnight. I'd recommend Talk Talk Talk and Forever Now as the best albums after the debut though.
ifor
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Tomorrow's Harvest - Boards Of Canada. Borrowed from my son and a first ever listen to BoC. I don't understand why it sounds more worn out than any LP of mine; now I know what surface noise is, but I suspect it's artificial.
Charlie Jefferson
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Jim-W said:
Hi Jim,
I eventually got around to playing both of my Neil debut albums. And yes, it seems I have both versions. The box set is obviously the remix and the other is the original. The heartbeat effect/sound is present. And the sound overall is very muted and boxed in, but as we've noted, it carries it's own charm and sensibility.
Other plays today after NY
Dylan - Dylan
More Bob Dylan Greatest Hits
Round & Round - New Order 12"
Get The Message - Electronic 12"
Bread & Circuses - The Durutti Column
ifor
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Charlie Jefferson said:
Hi Charlie
Well done! I thought you'd got both versions. I think the original 'What Did You Do To My Life' trounces the remix by the way.
By the way, on the subject of Neil, have you got a vinyl copy of the 'Eldorado' mini Lp? Good stuff, although some of it ended up on 'Freedom' of course. Nice to have though.
Finally braved the howling winds on my bike and bought a load of records today so I'm listening to a few tonight. I'm just glad to be home in one piece to be honest!
John Mayall- John Mayall's Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton (mono)
The Smiths-On The Road. Double LP live boot on coloured vinyl. Very decent sound and the band on great form.
The Red Garland Trio-Groovy
Leo Kottke-Live In Europe
Ruffhouse Records Greatest Hits-Fugees, Cypress Hill, Wyclef Jean et al.
ifor
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Charlie Jefferson
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Jim-W said:
Hi Jim,
That's an interesting haul you purchased on your travels. Of particular interest is The Smiths boot. Which year/tour is it? Also, I imagine the mono version of Bluesbreakers sounds good.
No, I haven't a vinyl copy of Eldorado, just the CD. It's a cracking EP. Have you got the vinyl version??
My listening this evening:
Circuses & Bread - DC. (Again. It's so good. Think I've got the title the right way around this time!)
Bona Drag - Moz (Bits of both the original ans the 2010 remaster/re-issue/recreation)
Charlie Jefferson
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Hi Jim,
Thanks for the reviews. I haven't played my (stereo) copy of Bluesbreakers in a long time, I'll hunt it out. I'm inclined towards a Smiths live boot, Rank just doesn't quite cut it. I used to have a stack of Dylan, NY, Smiths, Brian Wilson boots/gigs on tape but they got "lost" in a house move years ago. I don't think I've bought one for over a decade. The internet supplied all those needs.
I'm going to a record fair today, and will hopefully come across some interesting items. Bob,NY, Zappa and countless others are on my "list". Which usually means I come back with a stack of solo Bryan Ferry LPs and a Dub Syndicate 12".
I'm rather green-eyed about your vinyl copy of Eldorado, I have to say. It's a real tour de force. Yes, I imagine it's worth a fair bit. Always nice to know, even though, as you say, you'll never sell. Quite right too.
Thanks for the reviews. I haven't played my (stereo) copy of Bluesbreakers in a long time, I'll hunt it out. I'm inclined towards a Smiths live boot, Rank just doesn't quite cut it. I used to have a stack of Dylan, NY, Smiths, Brian Wilson boots/gigs on tape but they got "lost" in a house move years ago. I don't think I've bought one for over a decade. The internet supplied all those needs.
I'm going to a record fair today, and will hopefully come across some interesting items. Bob,NY, Zappa and countless others are on my "list". Which usually means I come back with a stack of solo Bryan Ferry LPs and a Dub Syndicate 12".
I'm rather green-eyed about your vinyl copy of Eldorado, I have to say. It's a real tour de force. Yes, I imagine it's worth a fair bit. Always nice to know, even though, as you say, you'll never sell. Quite right too.
Charlie Jefferson said:
I laughed at this: it's a familiar story, but that's the joy of it all, Charlie. Hope you find something that you've always wanted.
Jim-W said:
i couldn't agree more. I very rarely leave a record store or fair with what I had in mind when I walked in! Case in point is what I bought yesterday at my local second hand record shop and am listening to at the moment.
Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat
I was browsing through, saw it, remembered several people referencing it on here and just bought it on a whim, only knowing the title track from radio play. It's great and it turns out I do know other tracks.
jamesrfisher
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Today picked up the following and had a very good afternoon's listening:
Wild Beasts - Present Tense
Beck - Morning Phase
Neneh Cherry - Blank Project
Tinariwen - Emmaar
Wild Beasts - Present Tense
Beck - Morning Phase
Neneh Cherry - Blank Project
Tinariwen - Emmaar
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