Warning Newbie alert..... I have a Onkyo 609 and a Panasonic TX32-LXD80

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Hi I hope someone can help me here, I am having trouble getting my tv to "shake hands" with my Onkyo 609 - this is my first AV Receiver so I am struggling a little.

I have connected my TV to my AV via HDMI into the OUT port, but all I get is a blue screen, I get the Onkyo start up screen but this soon turns blue !! The firmware is up to date, I can get audio and video when I connect to my DVD/HD Box - just not with the TV, I have emailed Panasonic and Onkyo bit I just wondered if anyone here could help me.

Some. Of the settings in the menu have really baffled me even with the instruction book.

Kindest regards

Neil

Ps is there a "Sticky" on this anyone can link me to it??

 

[bearwolfblade]

doesn't it need to be connected to the onkyo's IN port from the tv's OUT port

 

[Anonymous]

I have it connected to my TV with the HDMI 1 port, the only OUT ports on my TV is a SCART and the Component ports...

 

[Anonymous]

Badgeman,

Have you got it working yet?

You are right in that your TV HDMI 1 port will connect to the Onkyo HDMI Out port. However, you do not say what else you have connected to the AVR (i.e. DVD, BDP, Sky, etc), as the HDMI / Component AVR inputs have to be assigned to the Input Selector (shown across the top of the remote as 'BD/DVD, VCR/DVR, CBL/SAT, GAME). Once assigned you have to push the relevant Input Selector button on your remote that corresponds to the device that you want to watch (i.e. push the BD/DVD button to watch a DVD from a connected DVD player).

I have my Sky+HD (connected to HDMI 1 input) assigned to 'CBL/SAT, my BDP (connected to HDMI 2 input) assigned to 'BD/DVD', and my Wii ((connected to Component Video 1 input) assigned to 'GAME'.

Be aware that not all TVs automatically switch to HDMI 1, so you may have to push the AV button on the TV remote to select HDMI 1 and then you are able to watch whatever is output from your Onkyo.

To assign inputs on the Onkyo, go to the setup menu and select 'Input/Output Assign' and from there it should be reasonably self explanatory.

Paul.

 

[Anonymous]

All i want to do is watch TV and get the audio out of my AV Receiver, when I turn the TV on and then the AV Receiver I get the Onkyo start up screen in 480i then it changes to 1080 and goes blue....

My DVD/HD works fine, so does my Virgin box although it's an old one so connected with audio cables and the SCART... But that's not the issue.

What I am thinking is I need to connect my TV to the AV Receiver with a SCART to HDMI cable if there is such a thing, or a SCART to Component cable then connect the audio with a Red and White cable.

Does this sound right? I am kind of guessing...

My TV only has 2 x AV SCART in/outs on the TV the rest of the ports are Ins.....

 

[Anonymous]

Badgeman,

I am confused now what you are trying to connect.

In your second post you said that you connected the TV to the Onkyo through HDMI - now you are saying that your TV only has 2 x AV SCART. So, does your TV have HDMI or not (it would not be classed as 'IN' or 'OUT', just see if you have HDMI on the TV)?

You say your DVD/HD and Virgin box works fine. Please clarify what 'fine' means? For example is the Virgin box connected to the TV through SCART and the audio connected to the Onkyo? I'm assuming therefore that the Virgin box does not have HDMI? Are you connecting the Virgin box to the Onkyo through normal phono cables (red / white) or through Coax / Optical Digital input?

If the DVD is working fine, I'm assuming you have full surround sound working okay, so the only question there is how you get Picture - is it directly connected to the TV for picture and to the Onkyo for surround sound? If so, why not connect the DVD via HDMI to the Onkyo for both Picture and Audio (and if you already do, then the TV connection to the Onkyo must be working!).

You hopefully understand why I am confused and exactly what is and what isn't working, as the main reason for buying the Onkyo is to get full surround sound whenever possible, so I'm guessing you must be doing something right.

If your TV does not have HDMI, then I am very confused as the spec that I find on the internet is that it has 3 x HDMI.

Please provide more detailed information on how everything is connected and exactly what you are trying to achieve. You did mention that 'all you want is to watch TV and get the audio out of my AV receiver', although I'm guessing you want more than that (DVDs?). To get sound from your TV to the Onkyo, and if that is all you are worried about, then check if your HDMI ports support ARC (Audio Return Channel) as this will send audio over the TV HDMI to the HDMI in port on the AV Receiver. Alternatively, I'm guessing you can simply connect to the AVR through phono cables (red/white).

Paul.

 

[kevin7.1]

Hi badgeman as far as i can tell your tv does accept 1080p signals so i think you maybe are trying to connect your tv to your av amp so that the sound you hear from your tv speakers come out instead from your av amp. this is possible via three different methods depending what your kit supports but these methods especially using audio return channel via hdmi may also be confusing you. I think you are missing the point of the av amp and its capabilities.

All those inputs on the back of the av amp are there to allow all different boxes and players that you would connect to the tv to instead be connected to the av amp. Your 609 will then upscale/upconvert all these video source signals to hd resolution and send them via hdmi to your tv screen. The av amp will keep the sound signals and output them through the connected speakers.

The av amp is meant to be like a hub that accepts all video sources making it easier to use them all with the one screen. So you could connect your standard cable box via a scart to component lead (ensuring scart output is set to RGB) to the component video input No 2 then assign component video input 2 to the cbl/sat input source selection. sound being connected via the red and white audio out from the cable box to the red and white cbl/sat audio in. sound would be dolby pro logic.

You could also have your dvd hd player connected via component video input 1 assigned to vcr/dvd input or via hdmi lead plugged straight into the vcr/dvd hdmi input on the av amp sound from this would come from the hdmi lead if used or if connected with a component lead an optitical/co axial digital audio lead would also need to be used depending on the type of socket you have on the back of the dvd hd player. Sound would then be in dolby digital surround sound.

Connected this way with the hdmi out on the amp connected to the hdmi socket on the tv, when you pressed the cable/sat button on your onkyo remote the cable box picture would be sent to the tv in high definition and you would hear the sound. then when you wanted to watch a dvd press the vcr/dvd button on the remote and the picture would appear on your tv and you will get the dolby surround sound through the speakers.

If you have or decide to get a ps3 i would plug that in via hdmi into the bd/dvd hdmi input on the back of the av amp then same goes if you want to play a game or watch a blu ray press the bd/dvd button on the remote and the picture will appear on screen and you will be listening to a hd audio soundtrack.

to explain the term assigning to an input. this is a necessary function these av amp can do because if you are not connecting by hdmi, the video and sound will be connected up via two separate leads so if you have video connected to component in 1 and sound connected to tv audio in you can assign or tell the amp to use both these inputs together whe you select cbl/sat. clever hey!! you can keep on adding till you run out of inputs pc's wii's xbox etc etc even digital cameras and camcorders temporarily through inputs on the front of the amp.

I hope this helps clarify things for you you may need to get a few extra leads but would be worth it when you find everything just works. also i would consider upgrading to a v+ plus box or a sky+ hd box then you would get your tv and movie channels broadcast in hd with dolby digital surround sound rather than the av amp having to up convert to hd and only having pro logic sound.

I wish i could come round and show you how to do it all because once you see it done it does all become a lot less confusing. I'm sure you will be enjoying your set up fully soon enough.

PS if your dvd player is an upscaling dvd player it will have hdmi just use that and set the audio output to bitstream then only one lead needed. i mentioned connenting with component leads just in case it was a "hd dvd" player as i have never seen one of these and am not sure if they have hdmi.

Good luck!!!

Kev.

 

[kevin7.1]

Merry christmas to you as well mate

hope i didn't sound patronising and that what i wrote can help when your new gear arrives. set up of the new gear should be a lot easier and you will be able to enjoy all your gear to its full potential in time for christmas i hope !!

Take Care

Kev

 

[kevin7.1]

Merry christmas to you as well mate

hope i didn't sound patronising and that what i wrote can help when your new gear arrives. set up of the new gear should be a lot easier and you will be able to enjoy all your gear to its full potential in time for christmas i hope !!

Take Care

Kev

 

[Anonymous]

Thank you Paul & Kev,

I thought I had solved the issue but it wasn't to be,

What I want to be able to do is to watch TV with the audio coming from my AV box, without using the Virgin box or my Hard drive recorder channel for the source of the video.

I have the TV plugged into the Out on the AV box with a HDMI cable. When I turn in the TV and the AV box (this doesn't always come on with the TV) I get a black start up screen showing the Onkyo title then the screen turns blue.

I really hope this makes sense......

If anyone wants help I'm in th e Derby area...... Lol

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry Kevin I edited my reply - problem hasn't gone away after all. See above.

 

[kevin7.1]

Your tv has no support for arc audio return channel via hdmi, and there is no toslink optical out on your tv nor is there coaxial optical out so the only way to get sound from your tv to the av amp is via the audio out l & r on your tv. Get a phono to phono or rca to rca (same thing) lead and use it to connect between the tv and the amp.

If you are not going to plug your dvd or cable box into the av amp then disconnect the hdmi between amp and the tv for now because there is nothing to going be sent either way via hdmi. Hence the blue screen there is no signal to show from what you have said.

Turn your tv on select the scart input that the cable box is plugged into so picture is on screen and the whatever it says under the audio input on the amp that you have used to connect the audio rca lead from the tv into for arguments sake the tv/cd input press that button on the remote and you will hear the sound.

It will be a shame to leave your kit set up like this once you have the tivo box and blu ray player. You could have just used a stereo amp to connect the way i have described above, rather than pay for a new av amp to use one stereo audio input on it. The onkyo TX NR609 capable of so much more now and more so with the Hi Def kit you are soon to aquire.

 

[Anonymous]

Thanks Kevin all sorted, just waiting to plug my TiVo and Blue Ray in once they've been delivered, but got the TV working through the AV Receiver using Audio Cables, sounds good though.

Watched an old DvD in surround sound and it sounded great, looking forward to watching a block buster on it, like Star Wars or Harry Potter maybe Avatar.... I bet they sound brilliant.

Can you advise on speaker wire, is it worth spending more money and buying better/thicker quality?

Once again, thank you ever so much for your patience and knowledge.

Neil

 

[Anonymous]

Badgeman,

Not sure what speakers you have, but I use QED Silver Anniversary XT for fronts/centre, QED Micro for rears, and a QED subwoofer cable.

Apart from speaker types, what length are you running the cables and are they to be surface mounted or chased into the walls as thickness of cable may be an issue? To be honest there will be those who favour more expensive cables and say they can tell the difference and those who can't. Obviously, you don't want to use very cheap cable with a thin core, so a good starting point imo is the QED Micro (not the 'Silver'). Another rule of thumb is to spend 10% of the overall cost of your setup on cables. I could probably have got away with the QED Micro all round, but went for the QED Silver Annisversary XT for fronts/centre based on various forum links asking the question and by what my dealer advised. I used the more expensive QED subwoofer cable as I got a good price with the overall bundle of what I bought, but otherwise would have gone for a cheaper 'midrange' one from Amazon (based on reviews).

If you are interested in my setup and how it looks with what I consider to be a good 'surface mount' solution for the cables, then look here (see photos after my, ummm, somewhat long review):

http://www.whathifi.com/forum/your-system/new-home-cinema-review

Hope this helps.

Paul.

 

[kevin7.1]

Hi badgeman

Glad you got sorted in the end. My cables are the same as Pauls except i use silver spiral instead of anniversary. i like the sound i get some say these cables are a bit bright sounding which i fully understand but i must be used to it now, also my tangent evo's seem to like this cable and give a great sound and tame the trebble slightly compared to my old tannoys. I haven't tried any other cable my previous cable was qed as well.

Two films i would recommend to really give you an idea of how good the surround sound effects can be, are Saving Private Ryan and Death Race. The opening scenes of these films are stunning as far as sound effects go, sure other people could recommend more films. Not actually watched avatar or star wars on my set up but have access to them both so might do that over the christmas period. The HD audio soundtracks to these film should sound amazing with all the action scenes

Now once you get your last few bits you just get to sit back enjoy your system!!!

All the best

Kev.

 

[Anonymous]

I have Q Acoustics FR and FC and C speakers and the wiring is doing my head in, what type of banana style plugs would you recommend ??

Could I use those QED Airlock ended cables ??

Cheers

 

[Anonymous]

Can I use those QED Airlock banana plugs with the QAcoustics 7000 speakers ?