There is actually scientific data on the web and various YouTube videos that claim that USB cables do not sound the same. Please check out some of the links in the begining of this thread, dont ask me to provide as I've lost the will to live ... hahaha
YouTubers claim a lot of things...There is actually scientific data on the web and various YouTube videos that claim that USB cables do not sound the same. Please check out some of the links in the begining of this thread, dont ask me to provide as I've lost the will to live ... hahaha
Misinformation has been around since humans could talk. Whats new? How can you tell who's making stuff up and who's telling the truth.
Where cables are concern, particularly those that transmit digital data, I think, there are equal doses of snake oil and equal doses of genuine products that make a difference.
All digital information, whether music or anything else, is in binary form, i.e. 1s and 0s. As for Jitter, any DAC worth it's salt, will control the timing itself with it's own clock and in doing so, eliminate jitter.
But but but...
if the errors are reduced on transmission, surely that's good?
But, but, but what? If the error rates with USB were high enough to be problematic, it would be useless for use with computers, whatever you are doing. The actual error rates are so low with USB, out of necessity for it to work with computers, that claims of reducing data errors, with high priced cables, are pure BS.But but but...
Check the transmission rate of your streaming services, and you will find the maximum speed is well below what Cat5e cable can transfer up to 100m in length.Where cables are concern, particularly those that transmit digital data, I think, there are equal doses of snake oil and equal doses of genuine products that make a difference.
I suppose in the sphere of capitalism, selling your product at a market price are not always adhered to, the mechanism of supply and demand not always apply. You create a brand and people buy into it as long as they can keep parading 'Our ethics and Good Practice' pony around the circus rink, it's not to say all manufacturers are like that.
It really is a case of Caveat Emptor, YouTube is both good and bad, hopefully people have the good sense to stay away from the clowns. I always seek out 3 or 4 reviews and look at the consistency. A red flag is when one of them says 'Nah' and keep throwing 'Schitts DAC in your face', not once but every time they review a new DAC product on the market, there's a lot of product placement going on, on Youtube, so it is a bit of a minefield.
Anyway, still on the subject of digital cables. I can't recall who suggested it on this thread but thanks for the tip, and I have to say, I'm a sucker for persuasion but this is all good, I'm glad I listened.
I did upgrade my switch box to QNAP 2500 Mbps, not the product that was suggested and this made sense, my Virgin 5 Hub only had one 2500 Mbps port, now I have five - whoopee.
Although my subscription with Virgin is for 1300 Mbps hyperfibre, I was getting 700-800 mps max and now with this small upgrade I'm getting close to the theoretical bandwidth 1000 Mbps or more, I'm not sure how that translate to sound quality, I don't want to go there!
but I am getting more detail and a sharper 4K picture (OK I went there!).......to my Eyes ....hahaha
I will say also, replacing my old ethernet cables to Cat8 has made a difference to the internet, a lot more stability.
I brought those orange 22AWG OFC 3m cables from AliExpress for about £26. It makes sense if you're streaming a lot to have good cables. I'm not sure how much of a benefit if you're using ADSL but certainly direct fibre connection there will be some benefits.
One of the customers who brought the same, noted, - see below the jitter decreased by four fold.
I'm bringing up this old chestnut but is it really just binary 0 1 0 1?
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Indeed, and a Cat8 ethernet cable is entirely pointless connected to a 2.5Gb switch (and not to mention for use outside of data centres altogether)
abx.digitalfeed.net
Cool. Thank you, will dig into these tests tomorrow 🤓Almost certainly imagined, you be remarkable if you could detect a difference under blind/abx test conditions
You can test it easily for yourself if your so inclined.
ABX High Fidelity Test list
A set of browser-based ABX tests comparing lossless and lossy music samples
There are two stools
I won't pretend I know anything about ethernet cables, this may be down to quality and design, it may not?
It’s well-known that you need to run usb cables in a faraday cage to eliminate the noise that allows the high-end products to deliver in the region of 1.4-1.8x improvement in sonic delivery across multiple media.
It could've of been a dodgy cable or switch, it definitely wasn't because you replaced Cat5e with Cat8
don't bother arguing, I bet most didn't watch the video you linked.
Cat 8 is useful, if you want to connect switches in data centres. It's overkill for any domestic installation. You might find short runs of this stuff in Google buildings, but I doubt anyone else would need this bandwidth.Where cables are concern, particularly those that transmit digital data, I think, there are equal doses of snake oil and equal doses of genuine products that make a difference.
I suppose in the sphere of capitalism, selling your product at a market price are not always adhered to, the mechanism of supply and demand not always apply. You create a brand and people buy into it as long as they can keep parading 'Our ethics and Good Practice' pony around the circus rink, it's not to say all manufacturers are like that.
It really is a case of Caveat Emptor, YouTube is both good and bad, hopefully people have the good sense to stay away from the clowns. I always seek out 3 or 4 reviews and look at the consistency. A red flag is when one of them says 'Nah' and keep throwing 'Schitts DAC in your face', not once but every time they review a new DAC product on the market, there's a lot of product placement going on, on Youtube, so it is a bit of a minefield.
Anyway, still on the subject of digital cables. I can't recall who suggested it on this thread but thanks for the tip, and I have to say, I'm a sucker for persuasion but this is all good, I'm glad I listened.
I did upgrade my switch box to QNAP 2500 Mbps, not the product that was suggested and this made sense, my Virgin 5 Hub only had one 2500 Mbps port, now I have five - whoopee.
Although my subscription with Virgin is for 1300 Mbps hyperfibre, I was getting 700-800 mps max and now with this small upgrade I'm getting close to the theoretical bandwidth 1000 Mbps or more, I'm not sure how that translate to sound quality, I don't want to go there!
but I am getting more detail and a sharper 4K picture (OK I went there!).......to my Eyes ....hahaha
I will say also, replacing my old ethernet cables to Cat8 has made a difference to the internet, a lot more stability.
I brought those orange 22AWG OFC 3m cables from AliExpress for about £26. It makes sense if you're streaming a lot to have good cables. I'm not sure how much of a benefit if you're using ADSL but certainly direct fibre connection there will be some benefits.
One of the customers who brought the same, noted, - see below the jitter decreased by four fold.
I'm bringing up this old chestnut but is it really just binary 0 1 0 1?
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