To my ears USB cables do make a difference.

[twinkletoes]

Did I say you said anything about 1s and 0s, No. If there is no information travelling along the cable, ie.. No squarewave transfer then we would have no sound. This is pointless I agree so let's leave it there.

Why did you reply to me then?

As i said no information is carried a squarewave is not information.

Im not going to agree with someone that thinks a volted regulated wave carries any sort sot of packeted information its dumb

but yes pointless thread and pointless convo

 

[NSO]

Well observed! I said "To my Ears", I phased it so that it is open, so we can have a sensible debate
I am convinced USB cables make a difference, because even digital transmission relies on voltage and this can impact on the sound.

Glad it worked for you👍

 

[NSO]

Why did you reply to me then?

As i said no information is carried a squarewave is not information.

Im not going to agree with someone that thinks a volted regulated wave carries any sort sot of packeted information its dumb

but yes pointless thread and pointless convo

Voltage of squarewave, Ground= 0, supply= 1. As if it carries number 1s and 0s. Just wanted to put some technical info rather than you try to dismiss. Is this wrong?

 

[Friesiansam]

Why did you reply to me then?

As i said no information is carried a squarewave is not information.

Im not going to agree with someone that thinks a volted regulated wave carries any sort sot of packeted information its dumb

but yes pointless thread and pointless convo

How do you think USB carries data then?

 

[Deleted member 201267]

Love a cable thread. Reminds me of the forum of old some 10+ years ago. The place was buzzing then !

 

[Jasonovich]

Love a cable thread. Reminds me of the forum of old some 10+ years ago. The place was buzzing then !

I think it's great, bring it on!

 

[NSO]

I think it's great, bring it on!

Agree👍

 

[Deleted member 201267]

I think it's great, bring it on!

Check out some of the old threads. Some were over 100 pages long. Like i said the place was buzzing...

 

[Jasonovich]

Check out some of the old threads. Some were over 100 pages long. Like i said the place was buzzing...

I will do just that, thanks.

 

[Deleted member 201267]

I will do just that, thanks.

Its why i like an old thread resurrection - serves as a reminder !

 

[Al ears]

Its why i like an old thread resurrection - serves as a reminder !

What of?
A load of people stating that they can never make any difference?

 

[NSO]

What of?
A load of people stating that they can never make any difference?

Or a load of people saying they can 🤣

 

[Deleted member 201267]

What of?
A load of people stating that they can never make any difference?

Of how busy the forum used to be.

 

[Friesiansam]

All forums used to be busier, before social media started to take over. My first forum was, the now defunct, PCAdvisor forum. Joined in 2003 and racked up more than 13,000 posts in the first 4 years and, I was far from the most prolific poster. It died a slow death over many years but, this one is doing better than many are now.

 

[Symples]

Well observed! I said "To my Ears", I phased it so that it is open, so we can have a sensible debate
I am convinced USB cables make a difference, because even digital transmission relies on voltage and this can impact on the sound.

I am glad you said "to my ears" as I am one who is unconvinced of an audio difference in digital cables.
I do wonder if you are hearing a perceived difference on an actual difference.
Are you swayed by the fact that you know which cable you are listening to?

It could be a placebo effect or there really is a difference

Now I have tried a few analogue cables (speaker and inter-connect) and cannot tell a difference (My ears? possibly))

But this has left me a cynic when it comes to cables (most definitely digital)
I am thinking that due the difference in inductance, capacitance and resistance of analogue cables, would affect the sound but I think the effect is more subtle that people realise.

OK... back to digital cables and USB in this case.
I believe that a digital signal is error free or not.
If error free, we get a nice clean signal.
If there are errors. Then we get pops/clicks
None of this increased bass/smoother mid-range talk.

Wanna convince me..... or how do I convince myself.
I think only a blind listening test would do that.
Probable goes for most people as well.

If one knows what cable/piece of equipment they are listening to. I think the person would be biased as to what they are hearing.


Then again you do say that you hear a difference.
Perhaps you have better ears

 

[Gray]

Oh I see. So if I wish it will make a difference, believe with all my mind then it would have made a difference. I am off to give it a try 🤣

Too late - you're a lost cause

 

[Al ears]

And that's the way cable threads go....
Ad infinitum....

 

[Al ears]

And that's the way cable threads go....
Ad infinitum....

Perhaps they all need to be blocked at source....

 

[Deleted member 201267]

Perhaps they all need to be blocked at source....

Locked thread = forum dead.

 

[Al ears]

Locked thread = forum dead.

Not necessarily, it means the that's not possible crowd move on ..
The OP states he can hear a difference and the nay sayers say that's not possible.
What potential interest has that to any new forum members?

 

[npxavar]

Not necessarily, it means the that's not possible crowd move on ..
The OP states he can hear a difference and the nay sayers say that's not possible.
What potential interest has that to any new forum members?

It is the new members that benefit the most, since they are probably the ones with the least exposure to such discussions.

 

[daveh75]

Not necessarily, it means the that's not possible crowd move on ..
The OP states he can hear a difference and the nay sayers say that's not possible.
What potential interest has that to any new forum members?

So you would you rather they were just misled?

I genuinely feel sorry for any new members coming here looking for advice...

 

[Deleted member 201267]

Not necessarily, it means the that's not possible crowd move on ..
The OP states he can hear a difference and the nay sayers say that's not possible.
What potential interest has that to any new forum members?

Its a debate.

Is that not what forums are partly for ?

New members would then likely try out cables etc for themselves and make their own minds up.

(just like when they ask "which loudspeaker is best out of x or y" etc).

 

[Al ears]

So you would you rather they were just misled?

I genuinely feel sorry for any new members coming here looking for advice...

Misled depends entirely on your point of view, which is exactly my point when it comes to cable threads.

 

[Al ears]

Its a debate.

Is that not what forums are partly for ?

New members would then likely try out cables etc for themselves and make their own minds up.

(just like when they ask "which loudspeaker is best out of x or y" etc).

Most new forum members come on here looking for answers not just ' you can't possibly hear a difference' approach .
Its not informative and its not interesting.