Throwing the cable cat amongst the pigeons!

[Mike Hunt]

What are people's views on these beauties? Will they make for more natural skin tones and a massively massive soundstage?

Synergistic Research Orange Fuses

Excl. TAX: €131.40
Incl. TAX: €159.00

But they do have an 'extremely good price/performance ratio'.

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[Dom]

I can't comment on those particular fuses.

 

[Mike Hunt]

I can't comment on those particular fuses.

The blurb is priceless

Orange is the new Blue!

By now it is fully clear to A/V enthusiasts that better fuses than the stock ones are simply a must to extract the best performance from all A/V equipment. If you are searching for the best fuse available worldwide, this one is yours!

There is no other tweak or upgrade in this price range that has such an enormous impact as simply replacing your stock fuse with an Orange Fuse. It may seem a lot of money, 159 Euros for a single fuse, but its value expressed in other upgrades easily surpasses the 1000 Euro mark. That is why the price/performance ratio of the new Orange Fuse is simply unbeatable.

It may sound boring that every new fuse is the greatest leap in performance of all new generations of SR fuses, but there's no arguing: it is true... several experienced beta-testers confirmed the leap in performance from Blue to Orange is far more significant than the - already great - upgrade from Black to Blue. This tells a lot about the effect the new Orange Fuse will have in your system.

While the Blue certainly is a very good fuse, compared to the Orange, the latter really excels in tonal accuracy as well as providing the finest details without the listening fatigue that's so often associated with "bright" sounding fuses. Of course, this comes on top of improved staging and depth of field as well as a new definition of life-like realism combined with an unsurpassed musicality with the correct timbre.

In case there are several fuses in a single piece of equipment, our hint is: start with the primary (main) fuse. This one will carry all current drawn and is the most important one.

Are Orange Fuses directional?
Yes, all fuses are directional. Electricity should flow from the left to the right when you view the fuse (from the "S" to the "R"). If you do not know the direction of flow you should listen to the fuse inserted in both directions. One direction will sound more detailed with a more natural timbre. This is the correct way.

What to expect during the burn-in process?
Brand new Orange Fuses tend to outperform fully broken in Blue Fuses. With Orange Fuses you can expect a mild burn-in during the first 200-300 hours. During this time you should experience a balancing of the soundstage with improved frequency linearity especially in the mid-range and high frequencies. While break-in time of especially the Black Fuse could be significant, the new Orange Fuse will beat a fully broken in Blue Fuse already, right out of the box. After just 24 hours it really starts to open up, and from that moment... things will only get better and better and better!

 

[Dom]

They have to write something.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

An ex friend of mine was an electronics engineer. I met him through a Satellite TV forum. Looking

I was going to pull your leg, along the lines of 'I bet you're fighting off the 'ladies' with a sh*tty stick', but then remembered I visit one to do with remote controls.

Now, where's the 'embarrassed' emoji...

 

[Mike Hunt]

I was going to pull your leg, along the lines of 'I bet you're fighting off the 'ladies' with a sh*tty stick', but then remembered I visit one to do with remote controls.

Now, where's the 'embarrassed' emoji...

It was around 20 years ago, and I was installing satellite TV at the time. You can't even start to imagine the size of the stick I needed to keep them at bay.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

'Confessions of a Satellite Installer'?

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Just out of curiosity Mike, have you ever tried different combinations of cables in sequence and subjected them to your analyses? I'm just wondering whether any mild form of thermoelectric effect is possible with different conductors. I know kit gets warm, and voice coils can be burned out (NOT in!) with too high volume levels. (Because I did it when I was a youngster...)

(I'm certainly not trying to prove any sort of point here - just curious and lacking the equipment to see for myself.)

 

[Mike Hunt]

Just out of curiosity Mike, have you ever tried different combinations of cables in sequence and subjected them to your analyses? I'm just wondering whether any mild form of thermoelectric effect is possible with different conductors. I know kit gets warm, and voice coils can be burned out (NOT in!) with too high volume levels. (Because I did it when I was a youngster...)

(I'm certainly not trying to prove any sort of point here - just curious and lacking the equipment to see for myself.)

I've tried lots of different cables. The only time I ever noticed an audible difference was when using really cheap (think 99p) or really badly made/designed cables.
I've been making my own cables for 20+ years, and used lots of different types of wire, but never noticed a difference worthy of note. I guess I must just be making them right... or I'm tone deaf.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Apologies, I might not have made myself particularly clear there - have you tried cables of different conductors wired together (one after the other, not mixed) in one cable - this will mostly be the case between amp and drive units because the internal wiring is usually not the same as the speaker cable.

It's probably academic, but my understanding of the thermoelectric effect is that some different conductors when connected and heated generate electricity - it's how the Curiosity Martian rover's RTG is powered. I was just wondering whether this might produce an effect detectable in your testing - did you call it sweep testing?

 

[Mike Hunt]

I didn't try that, no. What effect do you think it might have?

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

In all honesty, I have absolutely no idea - but in the most vaguely theoretical sense, a temperature gradient (which almost certainly exists between amp and source and could exist between amp and speaker) could produce DC electricity as an unwanted side effect - that's the thermoelectric effect - and if it did that would affect the net electrical signal carried. It's probably a dead end, but in the interests of science I wondered if it was worth a test? I got thinking about it when people stared talking about different cabling inside and outside loudspeakers.

(Not all combinations of conductors produce it though - if you were curious enough that'd need considering. Like I say, it's almost certainly a dead end.)

 

[TrevC]

In all honesty, I have absolutely no idea

Should have left it there.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

You misinterpreted a post of mine as an insult - it wasn't and I apologised for the confusion I caused. You might want to reconsider posting things like the above. I'll be reporting anything further along those lines.

 

[TrevC]

I happily admit having no idea about everything I have no idea about.

 

[GSV Ethics Gradient]

Me too - I wouldn't suggest it of others without knowing them though.

Let's chalk that one down to experience - hi Trev, hope all is well with you in these troubled times.

 

[TrevC]

Me too - I wouldn't suggest it of others without knowing them though.

Let's chalk that one down to experience - hi Trev, hope all is well with you in these troubled times.

All fine here thanks. Hope all is well with you too.

 

[nopiano]

Synergistic Research Orange Fuses

But they do have an 'extremely good price/performance ratio'.

I take that statement as meaning it’s an incredibly high price for performing as a safety device! What they probably meant it’s very good performance for the money?

I have never tried audio fuses, so I’m simply being mean!

 

[Gray]

I have never tried audio fuses

 

[iMark]

Cables will always make a difference. Unless you listen wirelessly.

 

[davidf]

Cables will always make a difference. Unless you listen wirelessly.

Although, AudioQuest were doing demos a few years ago at the Bristol Show, showing the difference between wireless and cabled transmissions.

 

[Mike Hunt]

I have never tried audio fuses, so I’m simply being mean!

There's no such thing as audio fuses. It's more snake oil BS.

Cables will always make a difference. Unless you listen wirelessly.

A properly made cable shouldn't make any discernible difference.

 

[Deleted member 188516]

and following on from the basic 79 strand speaker cables i/we use and recommend. Here's a picture of second and last speaker cables i/we use and recommend. Basic 500 strand speaker cables chilling out at the store before heading off our clients homes -

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may i ask whats the reason for sometimes recommending qed 79strand and other times 500 strand cable ?

 

[Al ears]

may i ask whats the reason for sometimes recommending qed 79strand and other times 500 strand cable ?

Price per metre presumably.

 

[Deleted member 188516]

Price per metre presumably.

i believe the 500 hundred strand would have a lower impedance compared to the 79 strand hence should work / sound differently as a result ?

looking at the pic of the 500 strand cable i'm guessing that it costs at the most £5 per m ?

(i would expect these cables to be included in the cost of a system purchase or given away free).