I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
Tacima mains conditioner
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renny:I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Cyril Mason:
renny:I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Oh yes they do...............
renny:I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Oh yes they do...............
Cyril Mason:They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Hate to 'scuttle' your statement, 'Cyril', but it should be 'nor', not 'or'
Hate to 'scuttle' your statement, 'Cyril', but it should be 'nor', not 'or'
RodhasGibson
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Got to say that my experiences echo the what hifi review, best purchase under £30 I have made for some time.Persevere with it. Never noticed your niggles myself.
Cyril Mason:
renny:I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
You won't win on this one. It's easier to go into an Anglican Synod and preach the advantages of Buddhism than to argue against conventional wisdom when it comes to anything cable- or conditioner- related on these forums
renny:I have just received a new Tacima mains conditioner as recommended by What HiFi. Unfortunately the sound seems thinner and the mid-range, especially vocals have lost warmth and tend to sound slightly mechanical. My question is, Do they need time to 'run-in'? Thanks.
They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
You won't win on this one. It's easier to go into an Anglican Synod and preach the advantages of Buddhism than to argue against conventional wisdom when it comes to anything cable- or conditioner- related on these forums
Interesting replies. Thanks. I will see how things go. If it doesn't improve I'll use it with my TV instead. I didn't mention that I also have a new Atlas Equator interconnect which has been run in for about 10 hours so far plus Chord Carnival Silverscreen cable which has been used for about 15 hours. Maybe they all need time to 'bed in' but as someone mentioned, without moving parts it seems strange that they should need to be run in. It states on the Atlas packaging that it should be allowed time to improve the sound. Time will tell.
I was in the same situation as your self, Was quite disappointed when i first pluged it in as it did remove some attack of the system. But after a about a week or so found that it had improved quite a bit and now there is a lot less noise to picture and sound from my system on a whole. (But i am also using a Qed Qonduit Mains Distribution Hub for my Hi Fi)
Hi,
It is mainly your ears getting used to the difference in sound.
I work for telex communications and Klark Teknik, where we make digital and analogue mixing desks, and sound equipment. Our stuff is burnt in for between 8 and 12 hours, to see if any of the components blow when power is surged through them, then we fully music test the compnents to see if they are in peramiters after the 8 - 12 hr period.
I agree that items with moving parts definately require time to bed down, and electrical compoents need a certain time from out of the box to get to working temp, but I really doubt about a 6 way mains block.
Like I said, the music roadies we see for all the big bands around the world, say that it is our ears that need buring into the new sound.
It is mainly your ears getting used to the difference in sound.
I work for telex communications and Klark Teknik, where we make digital and analogue mixing desks, and sound equipment. Our stuff is burnt in for between 8 and 12 hours, to see if any of the components blow when power is surged through them, then we fully music test the compnents to see if they are in peramiters after the 8 - 12 hr period.
I agree that items with moving parts definately require time to bed down, and electrical compoents need a certain time from out of the box to get to working temp, but I really doubt about a 6 way mains block.
Like I said, the music roadies we see for all the big bands around the world, say that it is our ears that need buring into the new sound.
Andrew Everard:
Cyril Mason:They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Hate to 'scuttle' your statement, 'Cyril', but it should be 'nor', not 'or'
What would we do without you AE?
Cyril Mason:They neither need time to run in or affect sound quality.
Hate to 'scuttle' your statement, 'Cyril', but it should be 'nor', not 'or'
What would we do without you AE?
I somewhat doubt it will change by 'running it in' but it def has an impact on perceived sound. I found it to work better in some systems than others, usually the brighter sounding ones with excess bass. In a well balanced set-up it can stifle dynamics and rob impact. Only you can decide whether it's a good addition to yours but at worst, you can use it for your telly/pc as surge protection. After all, the thing costs next to nothing compared with some specialist products. Have fun.
idc
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To those who state that cables, including the Tacima need time to run/burn in, can any of you say why that is? With no moving parts it does seem strange. Also, how do you know it is the cable and not the ears that is adjusting over time?
idc
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Tarquinh:You won't win on this one. It's easier to go into an Anglican Synod and preach the advantages of Buddhism than to argue against conventional wisdom when it comes to anything cable- or conditioner- related on these forums
............the stand off finally broke today at the trial of Tarquinh the Disbeliever.....................
............the stand off finally broke today at the trial of Tarquinh the Disbeliever.....................
Take into consideration that the tacima is really only designed for low wattage components. Your not supposed to plug amps etc in it
Alec
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chebby:
aliEnRIK:Take into consideration that the tacima is really only designed for low wattage components. Your not supposed to plug amps etc in it
Assuming you mean the Tacima CS929, then the manufacturer states it is suitable for 13 amp use...
http://www.tacima.com/mains_cond_cs929.html
This means it should as safe as any other 13 amp extension with equipment drawing up to a total of 3 kilowatts. A typical collection of hifi components - including most amps - should be fine. (Sources don't draw much power.)
I doubt most domestic hifi amps draw anything like that much. If in doubt, this info is normally printed clearly on the back.
Phew.
Still, i should get contents insurance...
aliEnRIK:Take into consideration that the tacima is really only designed for low wattage components. Your not supposed to plug amps etc in it
Assuming you mean the Tacima CS929, then the manufacturer states it is suitable for 13 amp use...
http://www.tacima.com/mains_cond_cs929.html
This means it should as safe as any other 13 amp extension with equipment drawing up to a total of 3 kilowatts. A typical collection of hifi components - including most amps - should be fine. (Sources don't draw much power.)
I doubt most domestic hifi amps draw anything like that much. If in doubt, this info is normally printed clearly on the back.
Phew.
Still, i should get contents insurance...
RodhasGibson
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Chebby I agree with you on that point. btw you are missing two items from your equipment list. make/model of tv and your hdmi cable choice.
If you think plugging amps into the tacima has NO negative effects im afraid your very much mistaken
Ive only recently acquired the P1000
I used an Arcam A85+ before that
But on that ~ you can still power the P1000 through a normal 13 amp socket and fuse and so your now saying high wattage components DO have problems through cheap conditioners?
I used an Arcam A85+ before that
But on that ~ you can still power the P1000 through a normal 13 amp socket and fuse and so your now saying high wattage components DO have problems through cheap conditioners?
Im saying that amps are 'ok' through a tacima, but you do lose some of the sound. They do tend to sound better overall. But at the expense of other things. Every amp seems to be different but where you might gain more detail (As id expect through a conditioner) you might lose some of the soundstage for example. The tacima especially doesnt like amps to be pushed hard
My arcam A85 certainly strained itself being used through the tacima. The Isotek Sigmas I use now though has no such qualities. Itll drive just about anything with no ill effects (But then of course it costs a hell of a lot more)
Hell ~ dont get me wrong. Im ALL for mains conditioners etc
Im suggesting you might want to try leaving the amp pluged direct into the wall (through a decent mains cable of course) and plug the sources through the tacima. Dont make the mistake of plugging everything into the tacima and thinking its as good as you can get it
My arcam A85 certainly strained itself being used through the tacima. The Isotek Sigmas I use now though has no such qualities. Itll drive just about anything with no ill effects (But then of course it costs a hell of a lot more)
Hell ~ dont get me wrong. Im ALL for mains conditioners etc
Im suggesting you might want to try leaving the amp pluged direct into the wall (through a decent mains cable of course) and plug the sources through the tacima. Dont make the mistake of plugging everything into the tacima and thinking its as good as you can get it
idc
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My Tacima arrived today. It has been a ****** to install, though the improvement in the sound is very noticeable....
idc:
My Tacima arrived today. It has been a ****** to install, though the improvement in the sound is very noticeable....
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Ahh i see you got the new improved and smaller version idc you lucky ******!
My Tacima arrived today. It has been a ****** to install, though the improvement in the sound is very noticeable....
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Ahh i see you got the new improved and smaller version idc you lucky ******!
chebby
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idc
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NickD2544:idc:
My Tacima arrived today. It has been a ****** to install, though the improvement in the sound is very noticeable....
Ahh i see you got the new improved and smaller version idc you lucky ******!
Indeed, I cannot wait for Trevor79 to see it, he will be so jealous. In the world of electricity does pylon cable need time to run in? No, seriously, is there an improvement with such cable..............
.....an increased understanding of the properties of electricity will surely help to understand more about 'cable burn and running in'.
My Tacima arrived today. It has been a ****** to install, though the improvement in the sound is very noticeable....
Ahh i see you got the new improved and smaller version idc you lucky ******!
Indeed, I cannot wait for Trevor79 to see it, he will be so jealous. In the world of electricity does pylon cable need time to run in? No, seriously, is there an improvement with such cable..............
.....an increased understanding of the properties of electricity will surely help to understand more about 'cable burn and running in'.
Lo and behold, I have just bought one myself.
I plugged it in yesterday for the first time, and it has made a definite sound change to my system and I do not like it. The bass has become fuller , but the mid range and vocals have changed. When you turn the volume up the vocals become how can I say ...ummm more trebly. Brighter sounding!!! Will it improve? If so when?
I have an Onkyo Amp, QED Revelation speaker wire and Mourdant Short Mezzo 6 Floor standers. Should I go back to a standard lead, or will the sound quality improve???
I plugged it in yesterday for the first time, and it has made a definite sound change to my system and I do not like it. The bass has become fuller , but the mid range and vocals have changed. When you turn the volume up the vocals become how can I say ...ummm more trebly. Brighter sounding!!! Will it improve? If so when?
I have an Onkyo Amp, QED Revelation speaker wire and Mourdant Short Mezzo 6 Floor standers. Should I go back to a standard lead, or will the sound quality improve???
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