your focus 110s may go deeper but the bass the adms do, is more accurately portrayed - more detailed. i owned the 110s for over a year. i'd like to hear the active 110s but wouldn't buy them, they require too much free space around them for my room.oldric_naubhoff said:so you can connect your SB Touch to AVIs through toslink, but you'll have to cope with poor bass extension. I mean I can't understand people who say that AVIs bass is accurate. manufacturer states that ADM9s freq response is +/- 2db 100Hz-20kHz with -6db point at 60HZ. how can you possibly get deep bass from that. IMO it's due to use of paper cone woofers which are not the most efficient in producing low frequencies (you need to use larger area diaphragms to get low freq with paper).
another option is already mentioned Dynaudio Focus 110A connected with an RCA cable. with those you'll not be wanting for more bass. I've got passive 110s in 2.0 configuration and a friend of mine was fooled into believing I had a subwoofer. anyway, bass extrension down to 40Hz is not world record (45Hz is anechoic) but, believe me, in most cases is enough. unless you listen to a lot of organ music
another option is other active speakers with RCA in. it'll mean budget end of pro market. but they will not touch Dynaudios in SQ department for sure.
P.S. someone mentioned Aktimatez before. it's a good option if you connect SB Touch with RCA. but the speakers are not active, they are passive with added power amp.
as I said before, those ADMs roll off past 100Hz. and quite steeply too because you have -6db point @ 60Hz. you should know that 60Hz frequency level is easily within frequency response of modern monitors of similar size, active or passive regardless. you might get the idea that AVIs "portray" bass better and all that because they can't produce deep bass. why? deep bass is in its nature very expansive so it can easily overshadow higher bass or even low midrange frequencies. if you want to know what I'm talking about go to a live philharmonic orchestra concert playing grand symphony and hear what happens when the orchestra is climaxes. the deep bass really gets massive. double basses for instance go down to 40Hz and you get boundary reinforcement too. and deep bass is undirectional so you can't locate where it's comming from but it's there in great amount. so in such moments many instruments are affected. for instance cellos are only barely heard and only due to their higher frequency harmonics.Craig M. said:your focus 110s may go deeper but the bass the adms do, is more accurately portrayed - more detailed. i owned the 110s for over a year. i'd like to hear the active 110s but wouldn't buy them, they require too much free space around them for my room.
from manufacturer's site:Craig M. said:where are you getting the info about the bass response? especially the 100hz figure?
well, they roll off faster than sealed boxes but below port tuning frequency, be it 40Hz, 35Hz, 32Hz or whatever... it really depends on woofer driver used, how linear the freq response in deep bass is. anyway, if you have linear bass extension in anechoic conditions down to 32-35Hz you don't really need to worry about faster roll off. there's usually little musical energy below 30Hz mark.Craig M. said:don't ported boxes usually roll off a lot faster than -6db in 40hz?
yes. but for the price of ADMs + sub you can get active Focuses. and have some change left to buy some musicCraig M. said:i know what you mean about accuracy and deeper bass notes and i'm not arguing, but i stand by what i say about the adms. with the money saved buying an amp for the 110s, you could get the avi sub and then there would be no contest.
good to know about the Contours. I'd like to lay my hands on Confidence C1s...Craig M. said:i always enjoyed my focus 110s but wasn't prepared to put up with the positioning demands any longer, strangely, the contour s1.4 could go nearer the rear wall!
these are interesting. Have not heard about them. The looks are so so for home use though. I will add them to the active speakers club thread.oldric_naubhoff said:since you didn't buy anything yet maybe you still accept advices? how about Emotiva Airmotiv 6?
they too have n AVT tweeter like Adams but I'm sure Emotiva don't charge for a pair as dearly as Adam. here's a few words what Stereophile's J.V. Serinus has to say about Emotivas pro monitors if you're interested.