Quality power cables, but not HiFi chunky

[gasolin]

Hi,
Any within specification power cable will do. There is no need for any specialist cables, conductors or other. The equipment PSU does everything you need to eliminate anything that the power cable manufacturers claim is an issue.

Why sell £8k active speakers with a standard power supply cable ? If it mattered, then you would also be getting a "special cable" in the box too.

Regards,
Shadders.

They don't so the price would be as low as possible fior cheap hifi but also so you have to buy a better cable if you think it makes a difference

I have ISOTEK EVO3 INITIUM and Supra LoRad 2.5, they are good for the money

Most difference it would make is with systems that can good enought to make you hear a difference, could be + 1000 pound,euro studio monitors, for 100 pound or less for a pair (2 for 2 mono amps or a stereo amp + preamp or 2 active studio monitors ) it won't break the bank

 

[shadders]

They don't so the price would be as low as possible fior cheap hifi but also so you have to buy a better cable if you think it makes a difference

I have ISOTEK EVO3 INITIUM and Supra LoRad 2.5, they are good for the money

Most difference it would make is with systems that can good enought to make you hear a difference could be + 1000 pound,euro studio monitors, for 100 pound or less for a pair (2 for 2 mono amps or a stereo amp + preamp or 2 active studio monitors ) it won't break the bank

Hi,
Price does not mean that the cable is special or is better than a stock cable.

Mains cable have no effect on the sound quality. People are transferring their belief that speaker cables can make a difference to mains cables can make a difference.

The power transferred from the mains cable to the amplifier (example) is based on a magnetic field within the transformer. The electrons flowing in the mains cable do not flow in the amplifier circuit. The two are disconnected. The transformer core introduces losses (heat generated), but there is no transfer of "special" behaviour from the mains cable to the amplifier circuit,

Regards,
Shadders.

 

[MrSinghsStereo]

Here are the cables to my rig - Nordost - Frey2, QB8, QX4, Heimdall 2, line harmonizers, sort cones etc To my ears they do make a difference , and more noticeable at the higher end . In my experience, cables will calm the sound down, alter the tonal balance , lower the noise floor. I have removed the sort cones as these I felt made less difference when I did my most recent upgrade.
Owned Clearaudio power block and alpha(?) cables around 10 years ago which mostly made the sound less bright but they have become a lot more expensive now.

 

[gasolin]

Some say in cables the plugs and shielding makes a difference

Now i have hifi power mains i will never use stock,standard cable

I do have the SUPRA Sensorpen, tranlated from danish. If it is used against a Supra LoRad cable, you will be able to see that there is no noise

That is bull **** since there are as much noise, detecting of noise from the supra power mains as my isoteck or any good quality black thick power mains

 

[robdmarsh]

I got myself a Tacima CS947 to deal with so-called "dirty mains" power, and I would tell you I heard the difference - cheap and cheerful. I also got myself an Audiolab DC Block for my Audiolab M-DAC Plus, again, I would tell you there was a noticeable difference? My girlfriend would just look at me as if I'd just popped out from under a stone!! Then I upgraded the power supply for my ifi Zen Stream to the 15v version - again, I would say I heard the subtle difference?

Absolutely, me too. I got a Tacima mains conditioner and the iPower power supply (£50) and have an uplift in sound on both counts. Don't know about power cables, can't change them on my amp.

 

[Gray]

Don't know about power cables, can't change them on my amp.

If desired, captive leads can be changed without too much effort - but it would still be pointless.

 

[CleanCopperz]

I think my local dealer has some decent. He said the stock was fine, but if I “forced” it he could just make some that was 5bucks more. He doesnt believe in the hype and tells me. Quality of power cables is to a certain degree. But XLR cable can vary with quality he said. But never hifi prices.

He is honest cool. Never wants to take advantage of customers.

 

[Gray]

He is honest cool. Never wants to take advantage of customers.

....but he'd like a few more like you 🙂

 

[CleanCopperz]

....but he'd like a few more like you 🙂

Yeah…🙏

 

[robdmarsh]

If desired, captive leads can be changed without too much effort - but it would still be pointless.

No it's ok, this amp is plenty good enough without changing the power lead.
However, these assertions that cables make no difference from you and your ilk when you don't have the ears of the OP I find irksome and pretty arrogant tbh.

 

[Al ears]

No it's ok, this amp is plenty good enough without changing the power lead.
However, these assertions that cables make no difference from you and your ilk when you don't have the ears of the OP I find irksome and pretty arrogant tbh.

It's his opinion. Everyone spouts them on here, and they are entitled to do so.
Nothing arrogant about it, it is generally down to personal experience.
I am sure the OP will heed, or disregard anything he doesn't want to hear.
The question was:-
'is it possible to find cables with good specs and quality without this chunkyness?'
The assumption by the OP that, if the answer is yes, that they would make a noticeable difference to his system is down to him.
If others decide to tell him not to waste his money then this is also information he can consider.
That said, are we here to disuade people in purchasing items?
I would say no, let them learn in like most others did.
however, that's the nature of forums.

 

[Gray]

No it's ok, this amp is plenty good enough without changing the power lead.
However, these assertions that cables make no difference from you and your ilk when you don't have the ears of the OP I find irksome and pretty arrogant tbh.

No more irksome than repeatedly hearing about the magical differences they make Rob believe me......and no need to get personal by the way. You'll notice that I never have, because it's not a good look 👍

 

[Al ears]

Perhaps we should agree to differ on potential benefits and simply answer the OPs question???

 

[Gray]

Perhaps we should agree to differ on potential benefits and simply answer the OPs question???

The one question he asks in his original post was:
is it possible to find cables with good specs and quality without this chunkyness?
And the simple, factual answer is 'yes, you've already got them'.
Post #2 gave the details -and 8 people agreed (maybe they're all just arrogant though ).

 

[nopiano]

Should be able to choose bigger sizes?
You are right 0.5m is too short. Atleast 1.5m would do

For something that doesn’t strain the sockets, as you asked at the outset, the Puritan range have a soft outer and a surprisingly ‘floppy’ construction. I chose some in the white sheathing as it makes them easier to disguise against our pale walls. (I have a couple of stands without backs in which my kit is housed).

However, they’re British made and I can’t recall where you are based.

http://www.puritanaudiolabs.com/products/mains-cables/

 

[CleanCopperz]

Looks really great. I also prefere white cables. Less noticable.

what are the prices for those cables?

 

[bigboss]

Looks really great. I also prefere white cables. Less noticable.

what are the prices for those cables?

http://www.puritanaudiolabs.com/buying/retail-price-list/

 

[CleanCopperz]

http://www.puritanaudiolabs.com/buying/retail-price-list/

Ooh I see. No need to say more, I know where the door is, I see myself out

 

[nopiano]

Looks really great. I also prefere white cables. Less noticable.

what are the prices for those cables?

I got two 1 metre Classic power cables for about £140 total, posted from a dealer who offers a modest discount to previous customers. That or the Classic Plus is all you’d ever need.

 

[CleanCopperz]

I got the price wrong I was looking at the ultimates…

classic looks in the price range I can afford.

 

[lyricman]

I bought 2 of these at £10 each which was a 2mtr length of cable which I cut into 3 and had a spare IEC plug and Duraplug so made 3 up for £20. Good quality cable and easy to make up.
I would say that it seems to have tightened up bass and detail but I also got a new NAD 268D power amp which is superb. Hifi is sounding better than ever.

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[Friesiansam]

I bought 2 of these at £10 each which was a 2mtr length of cable which I cut into 3 and had a spare IEC plug and Duraplug so made 3 up for £20. Good quality cable and easy to make up.
I would say that it seems to have tightened up bass and detail but I also got a new NAD 268D power amp which is superb. Hifi is sounding better than ever.

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I suspect the new power amp had by far the greater influence on sound.

 

[nopiano]

I bought 2 of these at £10 each which was a 2mtr length of cable which I cut into 3 and had a spare IEC plug and Duraplug so made 3 up for £20. Good quality cable and easy to make up.
I would say that it seems to have tightened up bass and detail but I also got a new NAD 268D power amp which is superb. Hifi is sounding better than ever.

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I tried the same a few years ago, but the cable was too big for the plugs and the polarity was unmarked. The internal cables were all the same colour! I wondered if that’s why they sell as a kit, because it would be illegal otherwise. I also discovered that the pretty screening is actually armour plating - to stop it breaking, say if used industrially, and nothing to do with audio.

 

[Al ears]

To be frank the only reason I bought my ClearerAudio cables was I was missing a lead to my preamp, loved the colour of the sheathing and am slightly OCD so they all had to be the same...m.

 

[lyricman]

I tried the same a few years ago, but the cable was too big for the plugs and the polarity was unmarked. The internal cables were all the same colour! I wondered if that’s why they sell as a kit, because it would be illegal otherwise. I also discovered that the pretty screening is actually armour plating - to stop it breaking, say if used industrially, and nothing to do with audio.

This was the spec similar to the Beldem which had good reviews