jase fox:Unfortunately that's all in our heads Michael, obviously were deluded to the non-believers, what there not taking into effect is with what materials the cables use like teflon for e.g or gamma geometry / silver or copper plated / DCT treated etc etcAll i know is they make differences to me and that's frankly all that mattersI'm afraid you've missed the point, and the point of scientific testing.
Andrew Everard:
grifz:THE END FULLSTOP
See what I mean?
Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
(To be clear analogue is a different matter, we are talking HDMI only)
Regards.
grifz:THE END FULLSTOP
See what I mean?
Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
(To be clear analogue is a different matter, we are talking HDMI only)
Regards.
Childs1962:Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
michael hoy
Well-known member
Childs1962:Andrew Everard:
grifz:THE END FULLSTOP
See what I mean?
Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
(To be clear analogue is a different matter, we are talking HDMI only)
Regards.
If you mean works by you receive a picture and or sound at the other end then yes all HDMI cables are equal, whether what is received at the other end tastes or looks like what went in is a different matter.
grifz:THE END FULLSTOP
See what I mean?
Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
(To be clear analogue is a different matter, we are talking HDMI only)
Regards.
If you mean works by you receive a picture and or sound at the other end then yes all HDMI cables are equal, whether what is received at the other end tastes or looks like what went in is a different matter.
michael hoy
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:Childs1962:Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
Andrew,
Your not
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are you?
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
Andrew,
Your not
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are you?
michael hoy:Andrew Everard:Childs1962:Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
Andrew,
Your not
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are you?
reading "which" magazine
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
Andrew,
Your not
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are you?
reading "which" magazine
michael hoy
Well-known member
None of the above: not dressed in a suit, nor reading a newspaper, nor any other publication. Neither am I correcting grammar or spelling.
I am, however, removing copyright images, especially when they are sourced from very vigilant, and expensive, picture libraries.
I am, however, removing copyright images, especially when they are sourced from very vigilant, and expensive, picture libraries.
michael hoy
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:None of the above: not dressed in a suit, nor reading a newspaper, nor any other publication. Neither am I correcting grammar or spelling.
What are you doing today besides watching this post and others?
What are you doing today besides watching this post and others?
michael hoy
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:
None of the above: not dressed in a suit, nor reading a newspaper, nor any other publication. Neither am I correcting grammar or spelling.
I am, however, removing copyright images, especially when they are sourced from very vigilant, and expensive, picture libraries.
Andrew,
I do know not to discuss mods.
Just to let you know the picture is royalty free, if i have got it wrong I apologise now.
None of the above: not dressed in a suit, nor reading a newspaper, nor any other publication. Neither am I correcting grammar or spelling.
I am, however, removing copyright images, especially when they are sourced from very vigilant, and expensive, picture libraries.
Andrew,
I do know not to discuss mods.
Just to let you know the picture is royalty free, if i have got it wrong I apologise now.
michael hoy:Just to let you know the picture is royalty free
And you paid for the licence to use it on this site?
And you paid for the licence to use it on this site?
michael hoy
Well-known member
Andrew Everard:
michael hoy:Just to let you know the picture is royalty free
And you paid for the licence to use it on this site?
Sorry,
Read the usage but missed the buy licence page.
michael hoy:Just to let you know the picture is royalty free
And you paid for the licence to use it on this site?
Sorry,
Read the usage but missed the buy licence page.
MUSICRAFT
Well-known member
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
Perhaps power stations should also burn in the electricity for 500 hours or so before sending it out
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
idc
Well-known member
There are problems trying to link to and report on testing of HDMI cables due to forum rules. But google is your friend and out there there are tests which show until an HDMI cable starts to fail with obvious sparkles etc, there is no difference in the signal that they transmit.
So if there are differences they are either down to
- a new unknown electrical effect
- the mind.
So if there are differences they are either down to
- a new unknown electrical effect
- the mind.
Andrew Everard:Childs1962:Hi Andrew, it would be interesting to get your view, when I say:
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
And do you agree with my view?
"The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost."
Do you agree?
Yes, I absolutely agree that is your view.
And do you agree with my view?
MUSICRAFT:
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
Perhaps power stations should also burn in the electricity for 500 hours or so before sending it out
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
well if it works for cables then burn in might work for me too, i'm off to the gym after this and i'll be expecting to be sharp
P]
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
well if it works for cables then burn in might work for me too, i'm off to the gym after this and i'll be expecting to be sharp
P]
Childs1962, instinct tells me this might be a case for leaving things be.
Andrew Everard is one of the moderators/referees/umpires of this forum, so he really should be neutral in this discussion as he has indeed been.
Andrew Everard is one of the moderators/referees/umpires of this forum, so he really should be neutral in this discussion as he has indeed been.
Grottyash:
Childs1962, instinct tells me this might be a case for leaving things be.
Andrew Everard is one of the moderators/referees/umpires of this forum, so he really should be neutral in this discussion as he has indeed been.
I fully agree that Andrew should be neutral in respect of brand A versus brand B etc though he may be able to express a view over what is a fairly straight forward technical matter.
Of course I would respect his decision not to if that is the case.
Childs1962, instinct tells me this might be a case for leaving things be.
Andrew Everard is one of the moderators/referees/umpires of this forum, so he really should be neutral in this discussion as he has indeed been.
I fully agree that Andrew should be neutral in respect of brand A versus brand B etc though he may be able to express a view over what is a fairly straight forward technical matter.
Of course I would respect his decision not to if that is the case.
jase fox
Well-known member
michael hoy:Childs1962:
The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost.
It is rather like attaching 1m of hose pipe to a tap and suggesting that the more expensive hose makes the water taste and/or look better, it just doesn't happen, assuming the hose doesn't leak and is not blocked (i.e assuming the hose works) then the water coming out of the end will be the same.
On the otherhand if you feel better because you have an expensive cable then that is fine.
But the water can look and tast different depending on the material the hose is made of, yes you still get water out but with something added.
i.e. tiny particles of the hose material / chemical make up.
And not to forget water filters and what they do....
The point is that with HDMI it is not a matter of subjectivity, if a cable works it will do exactly the same job as another one that works whatever the brand and cost.
It is rather like attaching 1m of hose pipe to a tap and suggesting that the more expensive hose makes the water taste and/or look better, it just doesn't happen, assuming the hose doesn't leak and is not blocked (i.e assuming the hose works) then the water coming out of the end will be the same.
On the otherhand if you feel better because you have an expensive cable then that is fine.
But the water can look and tast different depending on the material the hose is made of, yes you still get water out but with something added.
i.e. tiny particles of the hose material / chemical make up.
And not to forget water filters and what they do....
jase fox
Well-known member
MUSICRAFT:
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
Perhaps power stations should also burn in the electricity for 500 hours or so before sending it out
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Yes, they do very much so.
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Yes, they do very much so.
jase fox
Well-known member
maxflinn:
MUSICRAFT:
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
Perhaps power stations should also burn in the electricity for 500 hours or so before sending it out
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
well if it works for cables then burn in might work for me too, i'm off to the gym after this and i'll be expecting to be sharp
P]
Yes you have a point there Max, as we where always told to have a warm up first before doing sports.
MUSICRAFT:
Hi jase fox
"however, i rigged up my powerkords say, and yes i noticed a slight but
good improvement from the start but i just left them in as i had every
faith the burn-in process would take it's course accordingly. I didn't
know exactly how long this would take but 500 hrs was mentioned on the
RAs website"
So mains cables need burning in now
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
well if it works for cables then burn in might work for me too, i'm off to the gym after this and i'll be expecting to be sharp
P]
Yes you have a point there Max, as we where always told to have a warm up first before doing sports.
MUSICRAFT
Well-known member
jase fox
Well-known member
MUSICRAFT:
Hi jase fox
After market mains cables need burning in?
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Every cable/interconnect/mains leads/powerblocks etc ALL need burn-in time to perform there best. I did mention all this on my previous post and to how i know cable burn-in makes a huge difference.
Hi jase fox
After market mains cables need burning in?
All the best
Rick @ Musicraft
Every cable/interconnect/mains leads/powerblocks etc ALL need burn-in time to perform there best. I did mention all this on my previous post and to how i know cable burn-in makes a huge difference.
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