PS3 audio jitter

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I know the rest of my set up is bound to sound better than a PS3, however it's my only SACD player at the moment. I hear a tiny bit of jitter, usually at the beginning of tracks, andit sounds a tiny bit compressed sometimes. Is this just the PS3 or will a chord active hdmi (in place of a qed performance hdmi) make the improvements I want? After all £100 is a bit to 'just try' alternative sacd player and phonos will be like £650 too. Hoping someone can advise

Thanks

James

 

[Anonymous]

Any dealers in the know or PS3 80GB users got a SACD player too?

Thanks

James

 

[Anonymous]

Anyone?

 

[FunkyMonkey]

I have a 60gb ps3. Used to use it for sacd duties until i got a pioneer sacd player. Reason was not due to jitter but to allow me to send a DSD stream to my receiver. As for jitter, how does it manifest itself 'in the first few seconds of each track'?

 

[Anonymous]

You may want to ask it in a forum like the one at PS3SACD.com -- you're more likely to find fellow PS3 SACD users there.

 

[Anonymous]

Out of interest, what does the jitter sound like?

 

[Anonymous]

FunkyMonkey:I have a 60gb ps3. Used to use it for sacd
duties until i got a pioneer sacd player. Reason was not due to jitter
but to allow me to send a DSD stream to my receiver. As for jitter, how
does it manifest itself 'in the first few seconds of each
track'?

Stereolad:Out of interest, what does the jitter sound like?

Its like music comes out all muddled and blocky sounding, with notes getting mixed up for a fewq seconds. The best comparison is to sky when it gets low signal, blocking appears on screen and the sound jumps and becomes muddled. Don't get me wrong this may be a fault with a PS3 but it doesn't occur on CD playback.

To be honest, the PS3 does sound very compressed in terms of frequency range and detail. What Pioneer player are you using FunkyMonkey? How does it compare to the PS3 sonically? I do fancy a player to decode and send it to my reciever via analogue.

 

[FunkyMonkey]

JTD:

FunkyMonkey:I have a 60gb ps3. Used to use it for sacd duties until i got a pioneer sacd player. Reason was not due to jitter but to allow me to send a DSD stream to my receiver. As for jitter, how does it manifest itself 'in the first few seconds of each track'?

Stereolad:Out of interest, what does the jitter sound like?

Its like music comes out all muddled and blocky sounding, with notes getting mixed up for a fewq seconds. The best comparison is to sky when it gets low signal, blocking appears on screen and the sound jumps and becomes muddled. Don't get me wrong this may be a fault with a PS3 but it doesn't occur on CD playback.

To be honest, the PS3 does sound very compressed in terms of frequency range and detail. What Pioneer player are you using FunkyMonkey? How does it compare to the PS3 sonically? I do fancy a player to decode and send it to my reciever via analogue.

First of all, that does not sound like jitter to me. Either a faulty cable, or a dodgy PS3 as you say.

I use my PS3 for CD duties, because conversely to your findings, I find the PS3 very revealing and detailed with lots of dynamic range.

I use the Pioneer - a "budget" all in one for SACD duties. The sound is warmer than the PS3 for CD, but I prefer the more detailed PS3 sound, even though that can make it a bit more tiring for some music, and when listened to over a great period. On that rare occassion, I have the option of switching to "Pure" mode on my receiver, which "muddles" the sound, i.e. what people call, "warm" sound. Anyway, that aside, SACD on the Pioneer spits out DSD stream to my Onkyo 805 receiver, which converts the DSD stream to Analogue (or PCM and then analogue if I wish to employ room correction, i.e. Audyssey). I find this a fantastic SACD solution. And it demonstrates how SACD can be clinical AND warm.

 

[aliEnRIK]

JTD:
Its like music comes out all muddled and blocky sounding, with notes getting mixed up for a fewq seconds. The best comparison is to sky when it gets low signal, blocking appears on screen and the sound jumps and becomes muddled. Don't get me wrong this may be a fault with a PS3 but it doesn't occur on CD playback.

To be honest, the PS3 does sound very compressed in terms of frequency range and detail. What Pioneer player are you using FunkyMonkey? How does it compare to the PS3 sonically? I do fancy a player to decode and send it to my reciever via analogue.

I have a 60GB PS3 and mine doesnt do anything of the sort

 

[Anonymous]

FunkyMonkey:

First of all, that does not sound like jitter to me. Either a faulty cable, or a dodgy PS3 as you say.

I use my PS3 for CD duties, because conversely to your findings, I find the PS3 very revealing and detailed with lots of dynamic range.

I use the Pioneer - a "budget" all in one for SACD duties. The sound is warmer than the PS3 for CD, but I prefer the more detailed PS3 sound, even though that can make it a bit more tiring for some music, and when listened to over a great period. On that rare occassion, I have the option of switching to "Pure" mode on my receiver, which "muddles" the sound, i.e. what people call, "warm" sound. Anyway, that aside, SACD on the Pioneer spits out DSD stream to my Onkyo 805 receiver, which converts the DSD stream to Analogue (or PCM and then analogue if I wish to employ room correction, i.e. Audyssey). I find this a fantastic SACD solution. And it demonstrates how SACD can be clinical AND warm.

See now I only find my ps3 marginally better than my yamaha dock/iphone for music. Mr Pioneer BDP-LX91, even over HDMI is a much much more accoplished CD player but it doesn't play SACD! We have established that my PS3 is rubbish (only good for games), what are the best players, sub £1k that feed the SACD via stereo phonos? Seems a specialist subject!

Thanks everyone

James