Old records Vs new heavy weight records

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I was curious on getting some opinions on old records Vs new records.

What with all these new records splatter effect individual coloured records limited quantities of this colour of that splatter hitting the market.

Curious to see what others make of the new records.

I have a large collection including first presses of older style records many various genres of music.

Will these new fangled records keep there value, increase in value?

Is the music industry just flooding the market with to many limited edition this and that?

Is this just a ploy to get more money for the same music?

Personally I buy the music to listen to and even if I buy a rare older copy and it's still in the wrapper it gets opened and played almost immediately in most cases.
Some may call me for that but music is meant to be listened to.

I don't tend to buy thinking one day this will be worth a lot and il cash in.

As I can't take them with me my daughter is under strict instructions she can only sell my collection after listening to every single record at the rate I buy them it will probably take her in to retirement age.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
I am not massively into coloured records and definitely not into splatter, zoetropic or whatever, so don't have much basis for comparison, but I keep reading how these fancy versions aren't meant to be as good - possibly because of the dyes which need to be added to the vinyl mix?

Anyway, yes, definitely a ploy to get more money out of us fools haha
 
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Some of the best LPs I have date from the late 1950s and 1960s. Super smooth sleeves, beautiful shine on the vinyl, smooth edges, holes the right size, and quiet surfaces even today.

I have the odd 180g and special edition from Mobile Fidelity, for example, but no modern coloured ‘vinyl’.
 
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The biggest difference is that there is no one checking the discs before they are packed.

Often they still have release agent in the groves. And I have had coloured and black that have had surface defects. Not to mention off center labels.

Picture discs tend to have had the worse sound reproduction due to the material sandwiched between two halves to give an image. Splatter and dual colour are fine and really cam about due to a shortage of the Black due to demand.
 
I enjoy vinyl, have done for decades, not least as when I was growing up in the late 60s, 70s and 80s, it was the predominant format along with tapes and to a lesser extent, radio. I always liked the coloured vinyl albums back then. Out of the Blue in blue vinyl, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road on yellow vinyl and so on.

These days, it's a bit of a cash cow, though some reissues are terrific. I think Bowie's label could wind back on the 5 yearly anniversary releases - the 40th Anniversary Station to Station, or Low soon becomes the 45th Anniversary version and this year the 50th one...

For all that though, the format is still pretty solid. I've had a few duds that I had to return, but those are on the fingers of one hand and the rest have more or less been excellent. That includes coloured vinyl and the few zoetrope editions I have as I can't really fault those in a hurry either. The expense is of course the main issue for many now and it didn't help that - in the UK at least - HMV bumped up their 3 for £55 deal to now become 3 for £66 which is now a harder effort to justify, or at least, you need to be pretty forensic about your choices (my tip would be something like Gilmour's last album (usually about £35+), The Phoenecian Scheme soundtrack (£30+) and then your last album pretty much becomes a freebie in the deal.

The deals are out there - many independent record shops have their bargain bin sections with LPs at £14.99 or less. One album that's well worth seeking out is the soundtrack to Flag Day which is pretty impressive and not a duffer on it.

At the same time, when I see prices for old Genesis albums coming in at over £40, you have to laugh. for the most part, they're using the frankly crap 2007 remixes. Find a decent earlier copy, or get a hold of the CDs on Atlantic or Charisma. Much better audio and mastering.

On the other hand, I didn't baulk to hand over £55 for Beyonce's Cowboy Carter reissue (with all the tracks) that came in a kind of special edition set with full size booklet and picture sleeves. Pressing quality is top notch.

Overall though, a decent 8/10 for the format from me. It could be better and cost will remain an issue, but artists make their output worth the money, then it's easier to justify to an extent, especially when you consider that manufacturing costs won't be going down anytime soon.

After that, you pays your money...
 
I was curious on getting some opinions on old records Vs new records.

What with all these new records splatter effect individual coloured records limited quantities of this colour of that splatter hitting the market.

Curious to see what others make of the new records.

I have a large collection including first presses of older style records many various genres of music.

Will these new fangled records keep there value, increase in value?

Is the music industry just flooding the market with to many limited edition this and that?

Is this just a ploy to get more money for the same music?

Personally I buy the music to listen to and even if I buy a rare older copy and it's still in the wrapper it gets opened and played almost immediately in most cases.
Some may call me for that but music is meant to be listened to.

I don't tend to buy thinking one day this will be worth a lot and il cash in.

As I can't take them with me my daughter is under strict instructions she can only sell my collection after listening to every single record at the rate I buy them it will probably take her in to retirement age.

What are your thoughts on this?
i agree with you when you say , records are to be listened, buy them only to in a distant future profit with it ,

isn´t a sure thing or even makes sense ,about weight , in Portugal all records had from 130 to 140 grams ,since ever, when in London i noticed in the 80´s the records to be super thin ,

but they sounded more dynamic or just better, with a good above the average component system ,it wouldn´t make diference but others would say they sound a lot better , only noticed that by buying albums in two 45 rpm records,

this with a good but simple system, meaning, good sound ,good turntable and stylus ,never played records with them worned out, this because i used to hear records more in my bedroom ,where i spent most of my time,

and in maybe 87 wouldn´t make a diference to me , just wanted to hear music with good sound, when younger my cassette deck went bad ,never discovered why but had a 1970 Akai reel player that recorded with high quality sound,

about coloured , have many but because i ordered them from Gema records in England and were thin ,good sounding and well finished covers and inlay pappers(some in Portugal didn´t had them).

The lybras were expensive but a lot more titles and would buy more records with less money, even imported they were a lot less expensive, and none sounds bad today ,even played for many hours,

Also you shouln´t impose rules about you´re colection to your daughter, she will apreciate them more in a not so distant future, i know this by seeing diferent behaviours, sons or daughters from friends,

at home i only started to explain how to play a record , when they showed interest in playing them,

i was interested in music very young, Beatles were my favorite and not having authorization to play any record or touch his expensive system , i knew because of his work in a Bank he couldn´t be home before 4.30 p.m. ,normally he arrived at 6 h or even later ,

i wanted to be sure he wouln´t catch me so when 11 years old ´till i was 13, from 2h p.m. i would listen to his records everyday till 4.30, then i would go out to meet my friends ,

he died almost 4 years ago and all his huge collection came to me with all expensive components he bought mostly in the 70´s, more or less ,one component system each year, my brother living in Scotland and my syster in london, England they told me they didn´t want old stuff, i love them more for saying this to me has i wasn´t expecting it

today i can hear to almost all styles of music and re-shape my system , so to speak. at myy own will

Myself bought a lot of records and when having more money . CDs as with one cd money could aford to buy two Lp´s and soundwise i noticed that records could sound better than cds as sometimes i knew something was missing in the cd i bought , thinking it would be better than vinyl,

i still buy records today not so often but most of them from on-line stores i found on Ebay, cds i buy them when finding them very cheap and feeling that the year 2000 was yesterday,

lots of titles i use to download from internet ,using torrents or Emule, now if 1.75€ i buy the original as not all cds sound bad and i have a very good cd player, what to expect having a very rich father who put music above anything, he even assembled a top of the line studio at home in 1970, sometimes some of his old friends ask me if i want to sell this or that, mostly the microphones that are a lot ,well stored

has he was a recording technician (don´t know if it still exists this type of work) either than his work at a Bank, which he asked more than once to be ,not promoted but de-promoted so he could have more time to do his prefered things , like cars either than music and women,

he had lots of money but me and my mother , sister and brother lived with enough to have a confortable life.

You´re in the right path , only don´t impose too hard limits to your daughter, about you´re record collection, maybe not now but you will feel good about it, when teen or pre-teen it´s dificult but with age , she will apreciate more you´re music colection ,

endless personalities , dificult to manage all , i know it, a doctor when younger even sugested for me to start taking pils, "slowly the turtle won the race...".

About the money ,it´s expensive almost an adiction , but don´t let that make you love music less, i had harder times, but somehow on it´s own, life sometimes gets better, when less expected. "If there's a will , there's a way"
 

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