Naim 5i-2 vs Roksan Kandy K2 CDP

[chebby]

... the What Hifi forum (aka Chebby) ...

Yes, it's true. Everyone here is really just me.

But I know that. So why did I have 'cse' let it slip? (The pressure of being so many people is getting to me.)

 

[BenLaw]

Why? Because WHF forum aka Chebby aka Gel aka Andrew Everard, and this is a clever ruse to throw us all off the real scent.

 

[matt49]

A pedant writes:

If you're going to invent a disease of compulsive upgrading, it should be called "upgraditis" (not "upgraditus"). Diseases have Greek names, not Latin ones. (OK, I'll get my coat ...)

 

[the record spot]

I do wonder if Chebby has a point. It might be quite refreshing to reduce the box count....

Careful Matthew, at the rate you buy the stuff, that'll have an impact on several Far Eastern economies...!!

 

[the record spot]

flipping nightmare aint it!

So many variables!

Only if you let it become a problem. Personally, much as I enjoy MP's postings on his various trips around the Consumer Electronics worlds, I do wonder how much of it is hobby and how much is obssession with minutiae. I occasionally buy the odd item off Ebay out of interest, but the outlay is usually less than £150 (sometimes way less) and then it gets moved on again.

Hifi is just a means to an end. Since the Onkyo TX8050 turned up a year and a half ago, anything else has just been a pitstop. It's probably the first product I've owned that ticks so many boxes and delivers on pretty much all of them.

 

[unhalfbricking]

I have a plan! Sevenoaks Sound and Vision are selling an ex-display Leema Acousitcs Antila IIS Eco CD player at a discount of nearly £1,300. It's still a shade on the pricey side at (cough!) £1,999, but it would visually co-ordinate your amp / CD player combo nicely....and would probably sound pretty good into the bargain. Here's a link...

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p/leema-acoustics-antila-iis-ecocd-player-ex-display-model/clearance?pp=96

 

[stevebrock]

I have a plan! Sevenoaks Sound and Vision are selling an ex-display Leema Acousitcs Antila IIS Eco CD player at a discount of nearly £1,300. It's still a shade on the pricey side at (cough!) £1,999, but it would visually co-ordinate your amp / CD player combo nicely....and would probably sound pretty good into the bargain. Here's a link...

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p/leema-acoustics-antila-iis-ecocd-player-ex-display-model/clearance?pp=96

Hurrah!

His problems can all be solved!

 

[plastic penguin]

I have a plan! Sevenoaks Sound and Vision are selling an ex-display Leema Acousitcs Antila IIS Eco CD player at a discount of nearly £1,300. It's still a shade on the pricey side at (cough!) £1,999, but it would visually co-ordinate your amp / CD player combo nicely....and would probably sound pretty good into the bargain. Here's a link...

http://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p/leema-acoustics-antila-iis-ecocd-player-ex-display-model/clearance?pp=96

If they removed the 1 from the price I could be tempted. :clap:

 

[stevebrock]

I must say Leema & Naim both look stunning - but together? Crikey I can feel your pain!

 

[plastic penguin]

I must say Leema & Naim both look stunning - but together? Crikey I can feel your pain!

Thanks. Painkillers not supplied.

 

[matthewpiano]

flipping nightmare aint it!

So many variables!

Only if you let it become a problem. Personally, much as I enjoy MP's postings on his various trips around the Consumer Electronics worlds, I do wonder how much of it is hobby and how much is obssession with minutiae.

Actually RS, I think there is some truth in what you say, as I've just been shown by my (now ended) loan of a Rega DAC. Comparing it directly with the Roksan CD player there was a different tonal balance but in terms of sheer quality of sound, IN MY SYSTEM, there was virtually nothing in it - minutiae, as you say. Certainly I could never justify a change from the Roksan to the Rega IN MY CURRENT SYSTEM even if it was funded by selling the former, as it would be a fair bit of hassle for no real gain. I think the time really has come to challenge the 'obsession' and re-focus this as a 'hobby'.

My long-term aim is to end up with an all-Rega set-up. It isn't going to happen over-night, but in the end I'd like to have my existing RP3 with a Brio-r, Apollo-r, and r-DAC. It will look neat, sound musical, and be something I can stick with for many years.

 

[stevebrock]

Im sorry but my Rega boxes go lovely together!

 

[plastic penguin]

I must say Leema & Naim both look stunning - but together? Crikey I can feel your pain!

Thanks. Painkillers not supplied.

In the short-term it'll be churlish of me to change. It sounds stunning. Meantime I'll buy a pair of sunglasses.

Thought: Tin of Hammerite.

 

[cse]

My long-term aim is to end up with an all-Rega set-up. It isn't going to happen over-night, but in the end I'd like to have my existing RP3 with a Brio-r, Apollo-r, and r-DAC. It will look neat, sound musical, and be something I can stick with for many years.

There you go again,as I said earlier. The problem really is the tonal balance of your speakers, a poor purchase unfortunately, especially with a Leema.

 

[plastic penguin]

My long-term aim is to end up with an all-Rega set-up. It isn't going to happen over-night, but in the end I'd like to have my existing RP3 with a Brio-r, Apollo-r, and r-DAC. It will look neat, sound musical, and be something I can stick with for many years.

There you go again,as I said earlier. The problem really is the tonal balance of your speakers, a poor purchase unfortunately, especially with a Leema.

Rubbish. You are taking Matthew's quotes out of context.

Given I've over 30 years of buying hi-fis I think I know how a really good set-up should sound. Indeed Rega is a good brand, like many other. Leema is amazing also, and fabulous with MAs - that's why many recommend Leema Tucana with MA PL speakers - and the addition of the Naim only enhances the sound considerably.

As it stands my kit is musical and FUN!

Rega doesn't appeal to me, nor does any other brand within the prices I've paid. Back off!

 

[chebby]

Given I've over 30 years of buying hi-fis I think I know how a really good set-up should sound.

After 30 years you should know and not "think you know"

It's like people who say they have 30 years experience of a particular skill. In some cases it really means that they have had the first year 30 times over.

It's the kind of statement that doesn't really mean anything. I have been buying my own groceries since I was about 16. So have many others. Some of them will still be buying the same things they liked at 16. Other's would have changed over that time, improved their palate and skills and now be buying ingredients to make delicious and nutritious food. Some will still be buying cheap pizzas, oven fry chips and bottles of Coke every week.

I too have been buying hi-fi for a similar period, but I would never claim it makes my judgement superior.

You and I are just 'informed consumers'. (Most of us here alike.)

It's not a credential

 

[BigH]

30 years is that all?

 

[plastic penguin]

30 years is that all?

34 years to be precise.

 

[matt49]

30 years is that all?

34 years to be precise.

Snap

 

[plastic penguin]

30 years is that all?

34 years to be precise.

Snap

Crackle.

 

[plastic penguin]

Given I've over 30 years of buying hi-fis I think I know how a really good set-up should sound.

After 30 years you should know and not "think you know"

It's like people who say they have 30 years experience of a particular skill. In some cases it really means that they have had the first year 30 times over.

It's the kind of statement that doesn't really mean anything. I have been buying my own groceries since I was about 16. So have many others. Some of them will still be buying the same things they liked at 16. Other's would have changed over that time, improved their palate and skills and now be buying ingredients to make delicious and nutritious food. Some will still be buying cheap pizzas, oven fry chips and bottles of Coke every week.

I too have been buying hi-fi for a similar period, but I would never claim it makes my judgement superior.

You and I are just 'informed consumers'. (Most of us here alike.)

It's not a credential

I have never claimed my judgement is superior, nor will I ever. Sacrosanct is more accurate.

The thing that gets right up my nose is people trying to tell me what set-up I should have, especially when the subject matter has absolutely nothing to do with sound - a visual dilemma and nothing more.

In fact, hark back to one of your previous posts about me jacking in the Leema for a Naim Nait 5i. The first ever thread I composed on here at a possible replacement for the Arcam (May 2008) I expressed my disdain for Naim amplifiers, so this is nothing new to shy away from Naim. In addition, when WHFI came to do a 'Reader Rescue' they came with a Roksan Kandy LIII and Cyrus 8VS2. Afterwards they said would I like to test the Naim 5i and declined their kind offer.

To say I'm disappointed in your post (practically all of it) is a sad understatement.

 

[Ben K.]

I see ssav are selling an ex demo leema elements cdp for 750, maybe this would be a good match for your set up? Or maybe the half width chassis is enough to rule it out completely?

:?

 

[plastic penguin]

I see ssav are selling an ex demo leema elements cdp for 750, maybe this would be a good match for your set up? Or maybe the half width chassis is enough to rule it out completely?

:?

Thanks - I'll have look.

 

[cse]

My long-term aim is to end up with an all-Rega set-up. It isn't going to happen over-night, but in the end I'd like to have my existing RP3 with a Brio-r, Apollo-r, and r-DAC. It will look neat, sound musical, and be something I can stick with for many years.

There you go again,as I said earlier. The problem really is the tonal balance of your speakers, a poor purchase unfortunately, especially with a Leema.

Rubbish.

Are you allowed to use such insulting language on this forum???