just set up centre and rears , but something aint right ....

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hi folks , just wired up and setup a centre speaker and rears with my yamaha rxv765 , im using a sony bdps363 also , oh , and br5s as fronts , i ran the auto setup using the supplied mic , and it seemed to work ok , all the speakers emmiting test tones etc , i still dont have a sub though , yet , maybe this is the problem....

anyway , im now watching casino royale on bluray , and im sure there is some setting or something wrong , the sound from the rears is very light , its like they arent there really , but when i put my ear up to them there is some sound , also , im having to turn the volume up much higher than ive recently had to do when just using my br5s whilst watching movies , its like the sound is throttled , im sure ive got something wrong somewhere ..

is there anyone that has a yamaha amp or a sony 363 that may have any suggestions as to what may be wrong ? or has anyone any suggestions as to what i could try to do to set the sound free ?? i have read the manuals etc , but im very tired , and cant seem to find where im going wrong , any help would be great folks

, thanks in advance ...

 

[strapped for cash]

Hi Maxxflinn

Assume you have the Yamaha connected to the Sony via HDMI? Is the receiver displaying DTS HD Master Audio? Having just auditioned a few amps (my first experience of HD lossless sound) I was impressed by the greater presence of sound through the rear speakers compared with bitstreaming Blu Ray audio through my old Onkyo. How is the 363 set to output audio? If you're not getting much through the rears then double check all of your settings, both on the 363 and the Yammy. Not much help, I know!

 

[Anonymous]

Hi Maxflinn,

Dont know what centre and rears you have but check auto setup has the fronts as large and set LFE/Bass out to Front. You have no sub so low frequencies need to go the Br5's.

Check the crossover as well, dependant on that setting you may be missing/losing sounds that the rears cannot handle.

Bit of a novice but just a few thoughts.

Good luck

 

[Anonymous]

hi strapped , yes all connected via hdmi , the receiver is just displaying "hdmi1" the sonys audio settings (ill leave out the obvious ones) are as follows

audio (hdmi) auto or 2 channel pcm .... auto..

bd audio setting ... mix or direct.....direct

dolby digital...downmix pcm or dolby digital.....dolby digital..

dts... downmix pcm or dts....dts..

48khz/16bit or 96khz/24bit....48k..

audio drc...auto , stan tv mode , wide range.... auto..

downmix... dolby surround or normal....normal...

the yamaha is set to

straight enhancer

sci-fi

neo 6 cinema..

maybe its the lack of a sub .. i dont know , but im sure i should be getting bigger sound ...

 

[Anonymous]

leahandanna:
Hi Maxflinn,

Dont know what centre and rears you have but check auto setup has the fronts as large and set LFE/Bass out to Front. You have no sub so low frequencies need to go the Br5's.

Check the crossover as well, dependant on that setting you may be missing/losing sounds that the rears cannot handle.

Bit of a novice but just a few thoughts.

Good luck

hi leahandanna

i have lfe/bass set to front

i cant seem to find a crossover option

 

[Anonymous]

there is an "enhancer" button , pressing it brings up ..

straight enhancer...

7ch enhancer..

or two channel stereo , its obviously not set to that , but 7ch enhancer sounds fuller than straight enhancer , im guessing i should be using straight ?

 

[strapped for cash]

Another question...

If you are using a 5.1 set up through a 7.1 amp, it could be that you the rear speakers connected to the wrong rear channel. I had this problem when I first wired up my speakers to my Onkyo. Once I realised and wired up the rears correctly, all of I sudden I could hear the sound from behind. It's an easy mistake to make. May be a shot in the dark though... Good luck.

 

[Anonymous]

On my Yam, Crossover is next down (using the left/right/up/down arrows) after the Lfe/Bass out section. You would need to know the frequency ranges of the surrounds and centre, before changing it.

Mine is the Dsp-ax763 and a lot of the menu set out is the same, but not all.

When playing the Blu-ray, what does it say on the front of the receiver? Mine will always says 'Straight'.

I also do not know if the 765 has the option but I have on mine turned to 'Off', the Adaptive DRC and Adaptive DSP level. They both had an effect on my blu rays that I did not like.

 

[Anonymous]

strapped for cash:
Another question...

If you are using a 5.1 set up through a 7.1 amp, it could be that you the rear speakers connected to the wrong rear channel. I had this problem when I first wired up my speakers to my Onkyo. Once I realised and wired up the rears correctly, all of I sudden I could hear the sound from behind. It's an easy mistake to make. May be a shot in the dark though... Good luck.

ihave the rears connected to outs 4 and 5 , as it appears to suggest on the yam manual for 5.1, i was unsure about this , as 6 and 7 are named as "surround back , bi amp .. i would have thought anything named as back would be for the rears ?

 

[Anonymous]

I must also admit, I tried auto setup several times with mine and did not like any of the finished results. Eventually I used it as a starting point then spent hour fine tuning it. May sound a pain inthe a..e, but well worth the effort.

I have heard the 765, granted not with your speakers, but it sounded brilliant to me. Far better than average with music too, source for this a Marantz cd player.

 

[Anonymous]

leahandanna:
On my Yam, Crossover is next down (using the left/right/up/down arrows) after the Lfe/Bas out section.

Mine is the Dsp-ax763 and a lot of the menu set out is the same, but not all.

When playing the Blu-ray, what does it say on the front of the receiver? Mine will always says 'Straight'.

I also do not know if the 765 has the option but I have on mine turned to 'Off', the Adaptive DRC and Adaptive DSP level. They both had an effect on my blu rays that I did not like.

ok , pressed setup..

manual setup

config

lfe/bass out..set to front

scroll down once

options .. small and large ... but it wont move off large..

down again

options for centre... none .. small .. large .. currently set to small ?

scroll down again ..

sur.l/r sp

options .. none .. small .. large.. currently set to small ?

scroll down again

sur.b l/r sp

options.. smlx1..smlx2..lrgx1

currently smlx2..

down again

crossover frequency.. currently 60hz..

down again ..subwoofer phase

normal..reverse.. set to normal..

??

 

[Anonymous]

Try setting crossover frequency to higher, 100, 120 and 160Hz see if this has any effect.

Will only effect speakers set to Small ie your surrounds???

Looks like you gonna have a long night, plenty of alcohol, seems to be the required element.

 

[Anonymous]

leahandanna:
Try setting crossover frequency to higher, 100, 120 and 160Hz see if this has any effect.

Will only effect speakers set to Small ie your surrounds???

Looks like you gonna have a long night, plenty of alcohol, seems to be the required element.
alcohol and time aint a problem , patience is

, thanks for your help , ill give the crossover thing a try

 

[Anonymous]

hey guys , any yamaha owners out there that may be able to help

 

[Andrew Everard]

Yes, that's about right - the rears only supply ambience, and if they were as loud as the fronts would prove very distracting.

 

[bigboss]

Andrew Everard:Yes, that's about right - the rears only supply ambience, and if they were as loud as the fronts would prove very distracting.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Anonymous]

bigboss:
Andrew Everard:Yes, that's about right - the rears only supply ambience, and if they were as loud as the fronts would prove very distracting.

Exactly my thoughts.
thanks guys .. bb , when using pure direct , do you still get the full surround sound ?? ta,,,

 

[ear]

dvd or blu ray will always be lower on sound than a cd.Be sure you put the sound level of the rears a little above the fronts.the br1's were hard to drive.when I heard them trhough the same amp, the br5 sounded a lot higher than the br1 at the same volume knob position.

 

[Anonymous]

ear:dvd or blu ray will always be lower on sound than a cd.Be sure you put the sound level of the rears a little above the fronts.the br1's were hard to drive.when I heard them trhough the same amp, the br5 sounded a lot higher than the br1 at the same volume knob position.ear , should i have the sur.l/r sp , set to ... small or large ?? ta..

 

[ear]

those speakrs will support large but set them to small.and crossover for rear if possible at 80 or 70. its easy.then just put fronts level at the mid possition and rears at full volume.and see wath happens.

 

[Anonymous]

ah guys , how do you put up with me im so impatient , a knowledgable friend of mine was drafted in , a change of the frequency here , a bit more umph to the rears there (good call ear ..) , and , wowser

, watching the forbidden kingdom on bluray , dts master audio , amazing , brilliant effects , and loads of bass , if i get a sub i fear the house will fall down , its only timber framed

... thanks all

 

[ear]

home cinema sound...must be everyoines favourite toy

 

[Anonymous]

home cinema is fantastic now , but i stuck on a bowie cd , on pure direct mode , and its like danina bowie , the bass is gone ??

 

[ear]

hum..stereo will be the same? you will have to set stereo to...mains front set to large.

 

[ear]

see page 48 manual.The NOTE.