And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Just got Sky HD
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The_Lhc
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Messiah
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Had Sky HD for 2 years, but have no complaints about the SD channels, they look better than freeview.
tvmog
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Some people have reported an inprovement to the SD picture quality by using the scart output for SD programming rather than HDMI. Haven't tried it myself, but it may be worth a go.
sky hd box will only output 1 at a time so if you hook both scart and hdmi up it will not work and i cant see swaping cables as you change chanels being much fun. besides sd chanels look ok to me.its got to be your settings
daveh75
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nodnarb4444:sky hd box will only output 1 at a time so if you hook both scart and hdmi up it will not work and i cant see swaping cables as you change chanels being much fun.Sorry, but that's incorrect! Sky HD boxes can output from HDMI,scart and indeed RF simultaneously. besides sd chanels look ok to me.its got to be your settingsNot necessarily, many people find SD pictures poor from Sky HD boxes via HDMI-Due to the fact that Sky boxes deinterlace(which they're renowned for doing badly) the native 576i signal when output via HDMI.
As a result some find using a scart to get a native signal from the Sky box and allowing their TV's to handle deinterlacing and upscaling yields better results,
As a result some find using a scart to get a native signal from the Sky box and allowing their TV's to handle deinterlacing and upscaling yields better results,
GreenYamo:
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
The_Lhc
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Dermondo:GreenYamo:
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
Well it will depend on how good the TV is at upscaling.
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
Well it will depend on how good the TV is at upscaling.
Mine is set to auto and the TV receives the pics via HDMI, and no, I dont have a fancy priced HDMI lead!
the_lhc:Dermondo:GreenYamo:
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
Well it will depend on how good the TV is at upscaling.
Well, this works best for me and is another option available.
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have mine set to 1080i which yields the best results in my set up for both SD & HD channels.
Well it will depend on how good the TV is at upscaling.
Well, this works best for me and is another option available.
The_Lhc
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Yes it is another option but generally when people complain that SD channels look rubbish on sky the advice is to change it to auto because sky is known to be poor at scaling.
daveh75:
nodnarb4444:sky hd box will only output 1 at a time so if you hook both scart and hdmi up it will not work and i cant see swaping cables as you change chanels being much fun.Sorry, but that's incorrect! Sky HD boxes can output from HDMI,scart and indeed RF simultaneously. besides sd chanels look ok to me.its got to be your settingsNot necessarily, many people find SD pictures poor from Sky HD boxes via HDMI-Due to the fact that Sky boxes deinterlace(which they're renowned for doing badly) the native 576i signal when output via HDMI.
As a result some find using a scart to get a native signal from the Sky box and allowing their TV's to handle deinterlacing and upscaling yields better results,
well thats strange if i plug hdmi and scart into my box i get a blank screen.
nodnarb4444:sky hd box will only output 1 at a time so if you hook both scart and hdmi up it will not work and i cant see swaping cables as you change chanels being much fun.Sorry, but that's incorrect! Sky HD boxes can output from HDMI,scart and indeed RF simultaneously. besides sd chanels look ok to me.its got to be your settingsNot necessarily, many people find SD pictures poor from Sky HD boxes via HDMI-Due to the fact that Sky boxes deinterlace(which they're renowned for doing badly) the native 576i signal when output via HDMI.
As a result some find using a scart to get a native signal from the Sky box and allowing their TV's to handle deinterlacing and upscaling yields better results,
well thats strange if i plug hdmi and scart into my box i get a blank screen.
GreenYamo:
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have you connected the Sky box direct to the TV, or is it running through an AV amp?
And all set up no probs, spent an hour setting up the telly to look good but SD channels look pap!!
This normal? Any tips on getting a decent SD pic?
Have you connected the Sky box direct to the TV, or is it running through an AV amp?
would running it through an AV amp make much difference? i have my sky hd running through mine set to 1080i, and i have no qualms about the SD picture. my tv is a gash no name and the picture looks good to me. the only complaint i have is when viewing a channel in HD, then watching something in SD. but thats just because i get used to the HD goodness!
If it was connected through an amp I was going to suggest connecting straight to the TV just to see if it made any difference.
the_lhc:Yes it is another option but generally when people complain that SD channels look rubbish on sky the advice is to change it to auto because sky is known to be poor at scaling.
Where is the adviced sourced from.
Where is the adviced sourced from.
The_Lhc
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Dermondo:
the_lhc:Yes it is another option but generally when people complain that SD channels look rubbish on sky the advice is to change it to auto because sky is known to be poor at scaling.
Where is the adviced sourced from.
User experience on here for one, you'll find plenty of people here to back that up, myself included, my SD picture quality improved no end when I set my Sky box to auto, but then I have a TV with a very good upscaler.
the_lhc:Yes it is another option but generally when people complain that SD channels look rubbish on sky the advice is to change it to auto because sky is known to be poor at scaling.
Where is the adviced sourced from.
User experience on here for one, you'll find plenty of people here to back that up, myself included, my SD picture quality improved no end when I set my Sky box to auto, but then I have a TV with a very good upscaler.
We'd always recommend trying both ways to see which link in your AV chain offers the best upscaling. Don't forget that could be an AV amp/receiver as well as the Sky box/source or your TV/projector.
Most of the channels I watch look good in SD. It depends on two things: Your TV, its picture engine, how extensive the picture settings are and How good the stream is from the channel itself.
I have a sony bravia W series set. I have motionflow set to medium, sharpness off, black correcter medium, gamma at +1, Noise reduction Low, Live colour off, Adv. Contrast Enhancer low.
If you like a setting dont have it on high ever. With most TVs this produces exaggerated results and causes artefacts. motion flow helps with reducing the blurryness, The other above setting help produce better colour without loosing detail. Something like Sonys Live colour is horrible because it illuminates certain colours and it makes the image flatter by reducing detailing
I have a sony bravia W series set. I have motionflow set to medium, sharpness off, black correcter medium, gamma at +1, Noise reduction Low, Live colour off, Adv. Contrast Enhancer low.
If you like a setting dont have it on high ever. With most TVs this produces exaggerated results and causes artefacts. motion flow helps with reducing the blurryness, The other above setting help produce better colour without loosing detail. Something like Sonys Live colour is horrible because it illuminates certain colours and it makes the image flatter by reducing detailing
Clare Newsome:We'd always recommend trying both ways to see which link in your AV chain offers the best upscaling. Don't forget that could be an AV amp/receiver as well as the Sky box/source or your TV/projector.
Well that's it indeed Clare, trial & error is the best way to find what best works for each individual and don't be afraid to go against the grain if you think a particular suggestion or setting doesn't achieve best for you, try all and the best one is the one the you think looks & sounds the best.
As said the general consensus is auto can work best, but experiment to achieve best results.
Well that's it indeed Clare, trial & error is the best way to find what best works for each individual and don't be afraid to go against the grain if you think a particular suggestion or setting doesn't achieve best for you, try all and the best one is the one the you think looks & sounds the best.
As said the general consensus is auto can work best, but experiment to achieve best results.
Dermondo:
Where is the adviced sourced from.
Most of the people who claim SD channels are poor on SKY HD boxes are those that have used sky+ for a while (Something to compare it to)
All those that says its fine had either just changed their tvs, dont calibrate properly or never really had anything to compare it to
Where is the adviced sourced from.
Most of the people who claim SD channels are poor on SKY HD boxes are those that have used sky+ for a while (Something to compare it to)
All those that says its fine had either just changed their tvs, dont calibrate properly or never really had anything to compare it to
Dermondo:
As said the general consensus is auto can work best, but experiment to achieve best results.
Auto forces the HD box to 'deinterlace' the signal, and leaves the tv to upscale. Unfortunately the HD box has a very poor deinterlacer in it
1080i is the other option people tend to use on 1080 tvs as the signal ISNT deinterlaced, but of course it means the HD box upscales (But again, it has a poor upscaler)
Watching through scart means the box neither deinterlaces nor upscales which should (So long as a decent scart was used), produce the best picture (Assuming the tv has good deinterlacing and upscaling capabilities)
As said the general consensus is auto can work best, but experiment to achieve best results.
Auto forces the HD box to 'deinterlace' the signal, and leaves the tv to upscale. Unfortunately the HD box has a very poor deinterlacer in it
1080i is the other option people tend to use on 1080 tvs as the signal ISNT deinterlaced, but of course it means the HD box upscales (But again, it has a poor upscaler)
Watching through scart means the box neither deinterlaces nor upscales which should (So long as a decent scart was used), produce the best picture (Assuming the tv has good deinterlacing and upscaling capabilities)
Hi Greenyamo,
A number of people have taken the time to try and help. Be nice to know how you are doing.
A number of people have taken the time to try and help. Be nice to know how you are doing.
Yeah good thanks, set it to auto and let the TV do the work so to speak and definately improved.
The difference between the two seemed greater after i upgraded my HDMI to be honest but that may be because id been playing with settings for god knows how long
Since i switched to auto though sometimes i get a plain green screen with just sound but if i turn off the back on its ok
Thanks for everybodys help as usual, great response peeps much appreciated, very happy with my HD now
The difference between the two seemed greater after i upgraded my HDMI to be honest but that may be because id been playing with settings for god knows how long
Since i switched to auto though sometimes i get a plain green screen with just sound but if i turn off the back on its ok
Thanks for everybodys help as usual, great response peeps much appreciated, very happy with my HD now
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